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 Hi  folks
 
 I  have  a  15g  planted  tank  receiving  sunlight  for  nearly  8  hrs.  in  a  day.
 Plants  are  just  exploding  with  growth.  It  is  a  low  tech  tank,  no  additional  Co2,  no  fertilizers  .
 It  has  mollies,  platies,  swordtails.
 As  summers  are  approaching,  I  might  have  to  move  the  tank  to  prevent  overheating.  
 Will  I  have  same  growth  with  two  CFL  of  20w  each?
 One  problem  with  sunlight  is  that  like  terrestial  plants  they  are  tiliting  towards  sunlight.
 To  overcome  this  I  simply  rotate  the  tank  with  stand  every  two  months  Very Happy  
 Any  other  ideas
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 what  filter  did  u  use?
 
 what  substratum  used?
 
 was  your  tank  visited  by  direct  sun  light  or  indirect  sunlight  through  window  or  any  thing  else....
 
 
 
 i  am  having  a  empty  3*1.25*1.5  feet  tank  and  planning  to  have  a  planted  tank  with  out  any  artifical  co2  addition......
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pandian  wrote:                
what  filter  did  u  use?                

 
 It  has  a  simple  sponge  filter  driven  by  a  small  airpump.  It  is  adjusted  at  a  very  low  rate  so  that  water  circulation  is  maintained
 
                                                 
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 what  substratum  used?
                 

 It  has  two  layers  of  substrate.  Lower  one  is  seived  "morang"  which  is  used  in  construction  about  2  inches  and  top  layer  is  bigger  particles  of  same  sand  so  that  water  is  not  cloudy
 
                                                 
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 was  your  tank  visited  by  direct  sun  light  or  indirect  sunlight  through  window  or  any  thing  else....
                 

 The  tank  is  placed  in  front  of  a  full  glass  window  which  is  on  a  east  -west  axis.  It  receives  first  rays  from  sunrise  and  direct  sunlight  from  6am  to  2pm  and  indirect  sunlight  till  sunset.
 I  think  this  is  the  key  for  good  plant  growth.  After  all  planted  lights  try  to  imitate  spectrum  of  sun,  so  why  not  use  original  if  available.
 In  my  opinion  some  amount  of  either  direct  or  indirect  sunlight  is  essential  for  plants.
 The  second  observation  is  till  the  time  tank  was  lightly  populated  plant  growth  was  just  so-so.  Since  the  day  I  have  nearly  overstocked  it  the  palnts  are  growing  like  crazy.  At  present  it  has  15  pairs  of  mollies,  platies,  swordtails.
 I  have  not  lost  a  single  fish  in  this  tank.  The  way  my  mollies  are  breeding  I  might  have  to  vacate  my  house  for  them.
 
                                                 
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 i  am  having  a  empty  3*1.25*1.5  feet  tank  and  planning  to  have  a  planted  tank  with  out  any  artifical  co2  addition......
                 

 
 Try  to  set  it  up  by  "fishless  cycling".  This  tank  was  setup  in  this  way,  and  enjoy  the  satisfaction  of  cycling  the  tank  without  any  loss  or  weakning  of  your  livestock.
 Do  have  some  fishes  in  it  they  help  the  plants  a  lot.
 Go  through  this  one
 http://www.indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=99&mode=&order=0&thold=0
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 With  so  much  sunlight  don't  you  have  a  problem  with  algae?  I  had  a  tank  in  the  sunlght  once  and  I  had  to  move  it  due  to  algae  problem
 
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 I  had  lots  of  algae  problem  too...I  live  in  a  flat  and  intended  to  setup  a  few  new  tanks  outside  in  my  balcony  since  i  have  lots  of  space.On  trial  basis  i  moved  one  of  my  existing  tanks  to  see  how  it  goes.  The  tank  would  get  green  from  all  sides  of  the  glass.It  took  me  no  more  than  4  weeks  to  realise  that  the  tank  was  better  to  be  kept  inside  the  house.Have  only  2  tanks  inside  the  house  due  to  the  lack  of  space  but  am  glad  that  i  dint  setup  any  outside  else  i  would  spend  half  my  week  scrubbing  the  sides  of  the  glass    Chuckle
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elaine  wrote:                
With  so  much  sunlight  don't  you  have  a  problem  with  algae?  I  had  a  tank  in  the  sunlght  once  and  I  had  to  move  it  due  to  algae  problem
 
 Elaine                

 
 Hi  Eliane
 I  have  a  small  pleco  in  the  tank  which  eats  away  everything.  
 My  mollies  take  care  of  the  rest.
 Hair  algae  comes  in  a  while,  I  just  throw  it  away.
 The  only  problem  I  am  facing  is  plants  growing  sideways
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 What  we  are  missing  here  is  that  Sandeep  does  not  add  any  fertilisers  to  his  tank,  any  planted  tank  which  has  iron  dosed  in  it  will  bloom  with  algae  if  exposed  to  direct  sunlight.  If  you  want  to  expose  it  to  direct  sunlight  try  not  dosing  any  Iron  and  then  try  it,  it  should  work.
 
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nikhilsood1  wrote:                
What  we  are  missing  here  is  that  Sandeep  does  not  add  any  fertilisers  to  his  tank,  any  planted  tank  which  has  iron  dosed  in  it  will  bloom  with  algae  if  exposed  to  direct  sunlight.  If  you  want  to  expose  it  to  direct  sunlight  try  not  dosing  any  Iron  and  then  try  it,  it  should  work.
 
 Nikhil                

 
 I  agree  with  nikhil,  Algae  are  microscopic  "plants".  they  also  grow  by  photosynthesis  and  nutrients.
 Whenever  in  a  tank  there  is  a  surplus  of  either  light  or  nutrients  algae  will  grow.
 In  a  unplanted  tank  where  there  are  no  plants  to  absorb  nutrients,  placing  a  tank  in  sunlight  will  be  a  disaster.
 Even  in  a  lightly  planted  tank,  more  light  will  cause  algae  to  come.
 This  is  also  evident  when  I  prune  the  plants  too  much,  the  greenry  lessens  and  algae  can  be  seen  in  the  tank.
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 I  am  late  here  but  this  is  indeed  valuable  information  for  me.  Since  I  am  starting  out  a  planted  tank  which  I  propose  to  setup  on  a  partition  wall  which  has  plenty  of  sunlight  coming  in  from  behind  curtains,  I  might  just  have  to  limit  the  amount  of  light  I  have  to  use  artificially  to  control  algae.
 
 Or  I  might  have  to  put  up  some  black  paper  on  the  windows  to  reduce  light  !!!
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 I  have  finally  solved  the  problem  of  plants  growing  sideways  in  this  tank.
 As  posted  earlier  I  have  put  CFL  of  20w  each.  
 Now  as  plants  are  getting  light  from  top,  they  are  getting  straight.
 This  is  now  getting  to  be  very  soothing  sight  to  the  eyes.
 There  is  no  comparison  of  sunlight  to  anything.
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 i  didnt  know  CFL  light  is  good  for  planted  aquarias?
 
 is  your  tank  still  placed  in  the  same  location...  where  it  recieves  direct  and  indirect  sunlight?
 
 apparently,  the  tread  starters  question  hasnt  been  answered  yet...  i  was  kind'a  following  it  too...
 
 it  it  appropriate  to  keep  a  planted  tank  in  direct  sunlight?
 
 im  planning  one  planted  tank  too,  and  was  wondering  where  to  place  it  in  my  house...  the  balcony  seems  like  a  decent  idea...  but  i  recieve  direct  sunlight  there  for  atleast  hald  the  day.
 
 i  could  keep  apple  snails  and  plecos  in  it  to  control  the  algae.
 
 comments  please  gurus?!
 
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 PS:  What's  laterite?  is  it  the  red  sand/mud  (laal  matthi)  that  is  generaly  used  for  gardening  purposes  here  in  india?
 
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 Hi  Shahji
 I  have  researched  a  lot  after  I  started  this  thread  and  I  think  I  know  the  reason  why  I  do  not  have  algae  problem  in  my  tank  even  though  it  receives  a  lot  of  sunlight.
 In  aquarium  plants  there  are  plants  which  are  slow  growing  and  some  are  fast  growing.  If  in  a  planted  tank  you  have  only  slow  growing  plants  then  the  excess  sunlight  &  nutrients  will  fuel  algae.  However  if  one  has  a  mix  of  slow  growing  &  fast  growing  plants  then  the  fast  growing  plants  will  pull  nutrients  and  not  allow  algae  to  grow.
 In  this  I  have  cabomba  &  vallesneria  which  are  very  fast  growing,  hence  they  have  not  given  space  to  algae.
 Rest  of  the  plants  amazon  sword,  ludwiga  have  now  taken  up  well.
 However  when  we  mix  plants  "alleopathy"  also  comes  into  play  and  some  plants  might  not  grow  well.
 You  will  have  to  do  your  own  permutations  &  combinations.
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 thanx  sandeep!  Smile
 
 another  question  on  substrate  still  unanswered:
 
 What's  laterite?  is  it  the  red  sand/mud  (laal  matthi)  that  is  generaly  used  for  gardening  purposes  here  in  india?
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