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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: is laterite similar to what we call morrum??? Reply with quote

 Ok,  i  hesitated  a  lot  before  asking  this  question  cause  i  don't  know  if  i  am  being  very  stupid  or  just  a  little  stupid.  
 
 is  laterite  similar  to  morrum?  they  very  much  meet  the  description!!  
 
 because  if  it  is  possible  to  use  morrum  as  aquarium  gravel  for  planted  tanks..  
 i'd  save  some  money  cause  i  have  about  few  tons  of  it  in  my  backyard..
 
 i  read  about  morrum  and  also  asked  my  geology  professor,  and  found  out  that  it  is  similar  to  laterite,  it  has  high  iron  content  and  all.  my  biggest  qustion  is  Can  i  use  morrum  as  my  aquarium  gravel  of  couse  an  inch  of  it  beneath  regular  black  gravel.
 
 please  advice..
 
 
 morrum  looks  a  bit  rather  exactly  like  this..
 i  don't  have  a  digital  camera  with  me  right  now  otherwise  i  would've  posted  the  pic  of  my  backyard..
 
 
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 this  is  what  my  backyard  pebbles  looks  like...
 
 
 
 washed  and  dried  handful..
 
 
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 well...are  u  from  coastal  maharashtra  ?
 I  have  also  been  told  that  laterite  is  known  as  murum  in  maharashtra.
 anyways..
 i  have  heard  of  many  people  who  have  had  sucess  in  their  planted  tanks  with  kind  of  pebbles  that  u  have  in  the  pic  posted.
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 laterite  is  red  soil/clay  kind  of  soft  and  which  goes  as  the  lowest  layer  in  the  tank.
 
 
 Hope  that  helps
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 No,  i'm  not  from  coastal  Maharashtra  i'm  from  Raipur  (CG)  and  the  soil  here  is  also  known  as  murum  and  the  local  geological  survey  office  has  conformed  that  'murum'  is  in  fact  'Laterite'.  
 and  i  am  trying  to  get  the  finer  soil  for  the  bottom  layer  and  the  larger  pebbles  will  make  the  upper  layers.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 There  are  different  types  of  laterite.  Some  types  are  supposed  to  be  more  suitable  for  planted  aquariums  than  others.  You  might  try  out  this  particular  type  of  laterite  &  checkout  if  it's  suitable  or  not.
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 I  found  some  interesting  things  about  laterite  in  this  region.  laterite  here  is  formed  by  the  action  of  high  rainfall  and  elevated  temperatures.  The  percolating  rain  water  causes  dissolution  of  primary  rock  minerals  and  decrease  of  easily  soluble  elements  as  sodium,  potassium,  calcium,  magnesium  and  silicium  (no  toxic  solutes).  This  gives  rise  to  a  residual  concentration  of  more  insoluble  elements  predominantly  iron  and  aluminium.  (good  for  aquatic  plants).  
 
 laterites  here  mainly  consist  of  minirals  kaolinite,  geothite,  haematite  and  gibbsite.  it  also  contains  quartz.  and  as  far  as  i  know  it  seems  pretty  safe  as  aquarium  substrate..    Cheering
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 Thumb Up  
 sounds  like  you  struck  gold    Very Happy  
 some  day  you  might  come  up  with  an  announcement  -  substrate  for  planted  tanks  -  for  sale  Chuckle  
 Well,  first  of  all  let  me  welcome  you  to  IAH!
 IMO,  you  should  make  a  trial  tank  of  about  18"x12"x12"  and  try  out  the  'murum'  if  all  goes  well  -  go  ahead  with  using  it  for  your  main  tank  that  way  you  can  save  yourself  a  lot  of  effort  and  money  Thumb Up  
 wish  you  all  the  best!
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 Thank  you  Aquascapes.  
 It's  easy  to  say  that  and  to  be  frank  
 I  am  not  that  patient  to  try  it  in  a  small  tank  first  and  then  to  the  main  tank  
 i  plan  to  add  'murum'  to  the  large  (90G)  tank  while  my  discus  are  in  my  present  low  tech  scantily  planted  55G  tank.  i'll  first  add  hardier  fish  like  guppies  etc.  to  this  one  see  their  health  for  some  weeks  and  then  i  transferr  the  Kings  to  their  new  planted  palace  and  return  the  55G  to  the  LFS,  he  is  a  very  nice  dude  and  takes  used  tanks  readily..
 this  way  everyone  is  happy  :-
 
 -My  Mom  is  happy  that  i  will  have  only  one  aquarium  instead  of  two.
 -My  Dad  is  happy  cause  i  saved  is  hard  earned  money.  (tank,  equipment,  power,  my  time  that  i  spend  for  the  fishes  will  be  less  and  i'll  study  more)  
 -LFS  guy  is  happy  cause  he  gets  a  cheap  narly  new  tank  that  he  will  sell          someone  saying  that  it  is  new
 -Finally  ia  am  very  happy  to  have  a  bigger  better  'Planted'  tank  for  my  discus.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 hmmmm.....
 a  planted  discus  tank    Rock On  sounds  interesting  -  tell  us  how  big  is  your  discus?  How  many?  which  strain?
 we  recently  had  some  interesting  discussions  on  the  topic  and  you  will  find  the  topic  ...........    
   here
 BTW,  I  like  your  lab.  what  do  you  call  him?
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 I  have  8  juvenile  discus  bought  2  months  back.  theyve  not  started  showing  colour  yet  but  according  to  my  LFS  guy  there  are  2-3  malboro  reds  in  them  3-4  striated  discus  and  maybe  2  turqouise  discus.  they  are  very  healthy  no  deseases  or  signs  of  stress  till  date.  one  is  just  a  bit  more  shy  than  others.
 I  know  that  8  discus  are  more  than  my  55  gal  can  hold  but  i  assumed  that  at  least  a  couple  would  die  but  till  now  everyone  is  alive  and  kickin  and  i  think  the'll  remain  that  way  and  maybe  the  new  90G  will  accomodate  them  comfortably..
 The  main  problem  is  food,  discus  like  variety  and  the  only  variety  available  here  is  tetrabits,  frozen  bloodworms,  and  the  usual  pellet  food(pre  soaked)  i  wish  to  try  my  hands  at  culturing  live  worms  after  my  exam,s  of  course  (last  tomorrow)
 
 I  don't  have  time  to  see  the  link  but  i'll  sure  read  it  tomorrow.
 
 Thanks  anyway.


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   Surprised  should  you  not  be  reading?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: is laterite similar to what we call morrum??? Reply with quote

 Harsh,
 Morum  is  what  I  have  used  in  my  4'  planted  tank  and  my  experience  is  that  it  is  a  wonderful  medium  that  holds  roots  of  aquatic  plant  anchoring  them  and  allowing  them  to  propogate  and  multiply,  most  of  the  plants  do  well  ofcourse  one  needs  to  add  soil  enrichers,  proper  lighting  etc.  as  only  the  substrate  cannot  be  only  responsible  for  proper  plant  growth......
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 harsh  have  U  checked  yuor  PM
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 harsh  have  U  checked  your  PM?  I  need  some  laterite,  can  you  help.   Aditi
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: is laterite similar to what we call morrum??? Reply with quote

 Harsh
 Raipur  is  in  the  heart  of  laterite  region  of  India.  Go  ahead  and  use  it.  Be  careful  to  rinse  it  extremely  well  before  use.  
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