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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 can  anyone  identify  this  fish  
 
 Three  months  i  went  out  to  collect  some  aquatic  plants.  At  that  time  i  came  across  a  small  stream  next  to  a  paddy  field.I  went  there  and  found  some  mussels.i  got  them  and  bring  back  home  and  dropped  it  in  a  cement  tank  with  some  gold  fish  and  koi.both  the  fishes  are  2  to  3  inch  in  length  approx.after  a  month  i  found  two  more  extra  fish(i  have  posted  below).what  are  they  .where  did  they  come  from.  Can  anyone  identify  the  variety  of  the  fish.  When  i  brought  those  mussels  (three  of  them).i  threw  them  at  the  back  of  my  car.i  for  get  almost  for  a  day  then  after  a  day  i  threw  them  in  to  the  tank.the  stream  is  located  almost  2  to  3  km  from  kanyakumari(sea).my  only  guess  is  it  should  have  come  from  the  mussel.
 
 one  of  the  fish  almost  look  like  a  comet  gold  fish  and  i  am  not  sure
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 I  don't  know  how  to  explain  this  phenomenon.
 
 These  are  not  native.  These  are  Carassius  sp.,  like  you  said  a  relative  of  the  goldfish.  
 
 I  doubt  the  mussel  brought  them  in.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 Those  are  goldfish  alright,  may  be  the  golds  in  the  tank  have  spawned  and  these  are  the  only  ones  that  escaped  being  eaten  in  the  egg  stage..  not  all  gold  fish  babies  turn  out  as  beautiful  as  there  parents,  some  of  them  will  be  like  the  common  fish  you  have  and  these  are  sold  off  as  feeder  fishes  or  culled  to  maintain  strains..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 i  dont  think  the  gold  fish  have  spanned  because  there  is  only  one  gold  fish  and  three  kois.the  gold  may  be  2  to  3  inch  in  length  and  of  6months  in  age.the  carp  may  be  3  inch  in  length  and  6  to  7  months  of  age
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 It  is  either  gold  fish  or  carp  that  bred  in  your  tank  or  else  it  is  a  work  of  god.
 Sent  it  to  believe  it  or  not  ROFL   ROFL  .
 Ask  your  family  members  sometimes  they  would  have  meat  to  give  you  a  surprise
 I  think  these  are  100%  not  from  the  mollusc  ROFL
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 @Pencil
 
 This  happened  with  me  once.  I  got  a  fry  among  my  miolly  fry   that  looked  'different'.  That  grew  up  to  be  a  goldfish   Chuckle  
 
 There  was  a  single  goldfish  in  my  tank.  So  that  means  the  female  fish  laid  eggs,  one  of  which  grew  to  be  a  fish.  This  is  rare  but  possible  The  Amazon  Molly  exists  as  female  only.  The  femals  use  males  from  other  species  to  mate,  but  do  not  use  the  males  genetic  material  (they  cannot)...
 
 Strange  and  complex,   Chuckle  But  Nature  and  God  are  above  our  understanding  of  the  world  to  this  day.  
 
 BTW,  i  also  believe  it  does  something  to  the  fish,  my  fish  also  had  the  same  leucistic  colour  one  of  the  two  that  you  have.  I  think  in  goldfish  parthenogenesis,  genes  for  color  are  compromised  
 
 
 @Marc  
 
 You  have  degrees,   Smile  I  have  read  years  ago  that  several  feral  godlfish  populations  in  Europe  are  female  only,  and  this  is  because  in  such  cases  of  one  parent  birth,  the  gender  is  overwhelmingly  pitched  in  favour  of  the  fair  sex.  This  might  be  too  technical  for  this  thread,  but  surely  Pencil31  will  appreciate  some  serious  research  in  laymans  language?  Me  too!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 @romi
 thanks  for  the  explanation   Clapping  
 i  have  learnt  similar  concepts  in  guppy  reproduction.even  without  male-  female  guppy  can  reproduce.the  resultant  off-springs  will  be  all  female  guppy.
 
 i  thought  everybody  will  appreciate  for  my  rare  finding  of  an  endanger  species  which  scientists  around  the  world  thought  it  was  extinct  some  years  ago.but  everything  ends  in  vain   Surprised  
 
 anyway  thanks  to  everybody,there  are  lots  to  learn  in  this  world.
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 i  couldn't  believe  this   Shocked     my  goldfish  is  a  beautiful  white  and  orange  Veiltail  goldfish.i  think  those  are  just  like  its  father  just  like  romi  said  "Strange  and  complex,     But  Nature  and  God  are  above  our  understanding  of  the  world  to  this  day"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Native id - can anyone identify this fish Reply with quote

 my  pleasure,  bro.
 
 But  i  am  afraid,  in  the  case  of  Endlers,  it  is  more  likely  that  the  female  was  storing  male  sperm..  Guppy  females  can  do  that,  as  can  swordtails,  mollies,  etc.  
 
 This  does  not  mean  that  female  Endlers  definitely  cannot  make  babies  alone     Unsure  :  I  remember  reading  in  Practicalfishkepeing  magazine,  that  even  a  shark  species  was  found  to  be  capable  of  it.  A  shark  kept  from  infancy  in  an  aquairum  made  babies,  3  i  think,  without  contact  with  a  male,  it  was  a  livebearing  species  of  shark.  
 
 
 Hope  Marc  also  shares  his  input  on  this  ....
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