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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: Chicken based recipe for discus? Reply with quote

 Since  my  BHM  mix  ran  out  was  looking  for  alternatives.  Currently  trying  out  my  own  discus  recipe.  i  have  only  2  discus  so  making  only  small  quantity.
 
 4  chicken  hart,  half  chicken  breast,  few  prawns,  boiled  green  peas,  blanched  spinach,  2  garlic,    china  grass  dissolved  in  hot  water.  Ground  everything  into  smooth  paste.  Spread  this  out  in  a  plastic  cover  and  freeze.  Cut  out  one  weeks  feed,  dice  to  small  pieces  and  keep  in  a  small  container  in  the  freezer  for  easy  handling.
 
 I  feed  small  cube  twice  a  day,  this  is  supplemented  with  tetra  bits  and  freeze  dried  blood  worms.  My  discus  seems  to  be  happy  with  this  food.
 
 Got  the  idea  from  here  http://www.discushatchery.com/food.html  next  time  planning  to  add  cooked  chicken  liver  also  to  the  recipe.
 
 Has  anyone  tried  chicken  based  recipe  for  discus?
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 exellent  work  Max    Thumbs Up  
 
 Wanted  to  try  something  using  chicken  instead  of  beef  or  pork  from  a  long  time.  
 Shouldn't  i  boil  the  Chicken  before  grounding?  seeing  all  the  bird  flu  cases  and  all  nowadays,  and  for  in  general  disinfecion  also..
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 Please  do  not  add  liver  of  any  type  to  a  food  mix  which  you  will  be  feeding  to  your  fish  daily.  It  can  lead  to  a  sometimes  deadly  condition  called  Hypervitaminosis  A.  Boiling  chicken  before  feeding  is  good  in  that  it  will  get  rid  of  some  bacteria  like  salmonella,  but  the  toxins  created  by  salmonella  enteritides  are  heat  stable  for  a  short  time.  I  f  you  cook  longer  the  protien  in  the  meat  coagulates  and  is  not  useful  as  a  nutrient  to  the  fish.  IMO  Avoid  chicken  and  use  Beef  heart,  earthworms  and  all  the  other  great  stuff  that  you  mentioned  in  your  post.  Smile  
 
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 @Gopi
 But  i  read  plenty  of  people  using  some  liver  in  their  beef  heart  recipe!!
 have  you  tried  it  yourself?
 please  elaborate..
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 Yes,  Harsh,  you  are  right.  Lots  of  people  do,  and  so  did  I  ,  till  I  suddenly  realized  what  I  was  doing.  We  read  about  Hypervitaminosis  A  and  D  in  Medschool,  but  I  didnt  recollect  it  till  I  read  about  pet  cats  dying  from  eating  raw  liver.  In  the  US,  as  you  know  ,  they  conduct  autopsies  even  if  your  pet  Gecko  dies.  And  the  diagnosis  was  established.  I  thought  that  logically  this  would  apply  to  my  Piranha,  so  I  stopped  the  liver.  
 When  there  is  an  abundance  of  other  food  available  why  take  a  risk  with  liver  when  it  has  been  proven  to  be  toxic  to  other  pets  ?  Smile
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 Oops  Forgot  you  were  a  doctor.
 
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 Thumb Up  You  are  most  welcome.  I    realized,  after  reading  opinions  in  many  forums  that  the  best  food  for  your  fish  is  what  it  has  been  designed  to  eat  in  its  natural  surroundings.  My  Piranha  for  example  eat  other  fish  (and  each  other  sometimes!)  as  well  as  aquatic  annelids  in  the  wild  so  I  now  try  to  approximate  that  diet  as  closely  as  possible.
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 I  don't  advocate  meaty  foods  myself!
 I  have  seen  just  as  healthy  discus  maintained  on  commercially  available  dry  and  frozen  feeds  -  expensive  -  yes!
 But,  so  is  your  discus!
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 i  feed  my  discus  and  oscars  beef  heart  and  they  seem  to  love  it!
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 Of  course  they  do.  Its  tasty  stuff(  for  them).  So  are  McDonalds  double  cheese  burgers.  But  one  too  many  and  what  happens  ?  The  ICU  with  beeping  cardiac  monitors.  Very Happy
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 I  agree  with  you  doc!  Agree
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gopiqpp  wrote:                
Its  tasty  stuff(  for  them).  So  are  McDonalds  double  cheese  burgers.                

 
 Nice  comparison    Chuckle
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 Prawns  or  shrimps  can  replace  beef  heart.
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 but  i  dont  think  discus  would  accept  prawns  or  shrimp  directly
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Prawns  or  shrimps  can  replace  beef  heart.                

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 they  will  if  you  make  a  smart  mix  like  a  BHM  just  exclude  the  beef!
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