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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Friends,  
 Frustrated  with  my  inability  to  source  frozen  blood  worms,  i  have  taken  @  Marc's  advice  and  whipped  up  a  batch  of  beef  heart  using  this  recipe  from  a  post  by  a  Canadian  hobbyist..  I  have  used  soya  chunks  instead  of  trout  chow.  And  added  extra  red  chilli  powder,  a  dash  of  turmeric  powder.  Also  i  have  used  delhi  carrot  rather  than  the  regular  ones.  
 
 The  results  are  encouraging.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Extra  masala  for  our  spicy  food  loving  Indian  fish  eh  ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Spice!!  Are  you  kidding?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Shiv!  don't  your  fish  suffer  from  acidity?  Surprised  
 Maybe  you  know  this  already,  but  I'm  just  stating  it  for  others'  benefit.  The  'aquarticle'  specifies  'paprika'.  Paprika  is  a  very  VERY  docile  chilly  with  hardly  any  heat  (actually,  for  us  indians  it  will  taste  just  like  brick  dust!).  It  is  usually  used  mainly  for  coloration  &  since  western  cuisine  works  with  very  mild  flavours,  they  also  get  some  kind  of  mild  flavour  from  it  (which  I  have  never  got  due  to  my  spice  bombarded  taste  buds!).  The  closest  anything  in  our  country  comes  to  this  is  what  is  called  'kashmiri  lal  mirch'.  This  is  used  mainly  by  indians  for  coloration  and  not  so  much  for  its  heat.  But  it  is  still  a  bit  more  spicier  than  paprika.
 Maybe  you  should  take  a  rain  check.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Shiv  Are  your  Fishes  from  Assam  (  hottest  chilli  is  available  there)  
 
   ROFL   ROFL   ROFL
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Guys,
 I  have  followed  the  formula.  The  spices  are  probaby  5  parts  per  million.  The  carotene  from  the  carrots  as  well  as  the  other  spices  give  the  fish  pigments  they  need.  the  fish  are  certainly  looking  more  colourful  now  (could  also  be  my  fevered  imagination.)  .  there  is  colour  in  the  flake  food  that  i  added  as  per  formula  and  i  am  sure  it  is  commerical  food  colour  (read  petro  chemicals)  not  natural.  In  my  world  view  no  natural  product  can  be  as  harmful  as  a  petrochemical  and  all  the  commercial  foods  that  you  folks  use  has  tons  of  it.
 
 @Athreyan  :  i  have  used  kashmiri  mirch  not  the  guntur  variety.  Even  so  the  concentrations  are  very  low.  the  turmeric  is  for  two  reasons.  One,  colour.  two  as  the  meat  is  still  raw  i  wated  some  anti  bacterial  in  the  food.  Frozen  or  otherwise.  i  am  using  the  'brick  dust'  for  exactly  that  reason,  we  use  it  for  colour  not  vigour.  
 
 @ramdas,  @mortis,  why  not  ?  its  well  documented  that  most  commercial  foods  (especially  colour  enhancing  ones)  have  a  range  of  natural  spices  and  algae  that  provide  pigments  that  are  not  available  in  the  tank.  patar  ke  phool  (a  lichen  )  is  eaten  by  all  fish  in  the  wild  (  i  have  tried  ).  the  badis  is  from  the  northeast  :)
 
 @deepakg  think  of  the  betta  colour  expression  with  such  feed.  I  am  feeding  my  bettas  the  same  and  they  seem  to  love  it.  Ok,  not  as  much  as  grindal  worms  ;-)  
 
 anyway  who  said  fish  dont  eat  spice  ?  I  will  post  a  video  of  the  food  being  consumed  from  Capoeta  sp  to  Pterophyllum  sp  to  Schistura  sp.  i  was  even  able  to  coax  the  badis  to  eat  it.  However  planning  to  use  this  only  once  or  twice  a  week  in  rotation  with  other  stuff.  
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Okay..  so  what's  the  recipe?  Specially  for  the  badis.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 recipe  is  here..  Better  still  i  will  get  you  a  bag  full  on  sunday  to  save  you  the  effort.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Bro  just  puling  your  leg.  Im  well  familiar  about  using  paprika,  etc  to  enhance  the  fish  colours.  I  said  that  because  you  followed  the  recipe  and  added  EXTRA  chilli  powder
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 +1  with  mortis.
 Shiv,  I  feed  my  Tinfoil  Barbs,  The  red  Chillies  chopped  into  little  pieces  directly  removing  the  seeds
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Good,  you  will  now  not  depend  on  live  feed.  
 
 Just  add  a  few  cloves  of  garlic......just  to  complete  your  spice  mix  Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 Shiv,
 
 Can  we  replace  Beef  heart  with  any  other  non  veg  (  i.e  Lamb  or  chicken)  ?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:30 am Post subject: Re: Beef heart based food recipe Reply with quote

 if  it  is  for  FW  fish  use  sea  food-  fish  and  prawns  instead  of  beef  heart  and  then  blend  it  with  your  favourite  recipe
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 @  mortis  :  actually  i  added  3  times  what  the  recepie  recommended  in  terms  of  paparika  and  sitll  feel  its  not  enough.  My  reasoning  is  what  does  a  canadian  know  of  chilli  that  a  desi  does  not  !  In  any  case  the  recepie  recommends  half  teaspoon  per  2.5  kg  of  meat.  Need  i  say  more  ?
 
 @  ramdas  :  Will  try  the  red  chilli  trick  and  check.  does  it  work  with  non  barbs  ?  
 
 @Vinod  :  i  am  sure  you  can  use  any  red  meat  heart.  Chicken  is  not  a  good  idea  not  just  for  the  fish,  even  for  you.  sheep  heart  (fat  and  major  vessals  removed)  should  be  fine.   as  the  meat  is  raw  till  served  i  would  not  advocate  mixing  meat  types  (beef  and  shrimp  for  exanple)  due  to  bacterial  contamination  risks.  this  is  also  the  reason  i  add  some  turmeric  to  the  recepie  as  a  anti  bacterial  /  fungal.
 
 @marc  :  Thanks  for  the  impetus.  I  am  in  chennai  as  i  write  this  and  ironically  have  managed  to  get  some  blood  worms  Smile  Also  caught  a  ton  of  regular  mosquito  larve  in  my  place  in  a  manure  tank  and  planning  to  freeze  them  and  take  them  to  b'lore.  So  with  this  we  are  feeding  the  little  bleeders  beef  heart,  tubifex,  drosophila,  weevils,  dried  tubifex  and  now  frozen  blood  worms  and  anopheles  larve  apart  from  the  algae  flakes  and  scampi  feed.  Actually  my  kids  dont  eat  as  well  :)
 
 
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 @  marc  :  will  add  some  garlic  for  sure  or  maybe  just  add  vadagam  instead  of  all  the  stuff  Smile  a  carp  fishing  friend  tells  me  that  most  cyprinids  cannot  resist  ground  hemp  seeds  in  the  bait.  now  that  is  the  next  thing  i  will  have  to  start  hunting  for  !  looks  like  i  need  to  visit  amsterdam  or  malana  ;-)
 
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