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Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Hi,Difference  between  A,  AA  and  AAA  Grade  discus?
 
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Actually  sellers  and  breeders  have  their  own  definitions  of  what  terms  like  A,  AA  or  AAA  actually  mean.  
 
 So  they  don't  mean  anything  when  comparing  somebody's  stock  to  another's.  It's  their  own  terminology.  In  Japan  they  use  S  or  SS  to  grade  quality.
 
 Thing  is  that  quality.  Based  on  Round  shape,  Red  eyes  or  Res  eye  ring,  No  beak,  no  papering  etc.  ┬áthe  quality  varies  as  per  my  views.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Experts  need  your  comments  Pls.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Here  is  what  one  of  my  friend  who  imports  regularly,  has  to  say  about  this.
 
 "In  India  no  AAA  grade  is  available  or  imported  because  of  cost.  AA  is  at  most  and  mostly  A  is  available.  Atleast  I  have  not  seen.  Some  exporters/breeders  have  reservations  in  sending  their  best  quality  to  India.  The  breeders  have  got  no  universal  standards  of  in-breed  discuss.  The  European  quality  will  vary  immensely  with  Asian  one.  Indian  bred  discuss  does  not  suit  in  A,AA,AAA  grade  because  of  Indian  water  conditions.  Since  water  is  different  in  different  places/country/continent  a  standard  specification  is  not  possible.  e.g  Brazilian  A  would  be  at  per  with  Malaysian  AA+.  A  few  of  his  friends  hand  carried  some  so  called  AAA  from  Dubai,  but  is  never  imported  in  bulk  in  India".  So  during  the  purchase,  the  buyer  knowledge  and  relevant  country  of  import/breeder  (from  certificates)  is  to  be  judged.  Better  not  to  get  into  the  play  of  ABCD..."
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Even  if  you  are  willing  to  pay  the  cost  +  an  additional  premium,  no  seller  from  abroad  will  sell
 you  AA  and  above  quality  discus.
 
 They  have  strict  understanding  with  their  European  /  American  buyers  that  top  quality  is  strictly
 reserved  for  them  alone.
 
 Even  if  you  know  a  breeder  personally,  I  am  sorry  you'll  not  get  top  quality  in  India.  Whatever  anyone  may  claim,  this  is  gospel  truth.
 
 The  one  concession  that  some  foreign  breeders  make  and  that  is  very  few  if  you  know  him  well  enough,  he  will  sell  you  an  assortment  of  fry,  which  are  too  young  to  grade,  with  which  you  try  your  luck  and  get  good  offspring.
 
 The  best  option  for  a  hobbyist  is  reputed  Indian  breeders  who  get  A  quality  discus  and  breed  them,  some  of  the  off  spring  turn  out  as  AA  and  AAA.  It  is  best  to  rely  on  reputed  Indian  breeders,  and  support  +  encourage  them  by  buying  their  stock,  as  they  have  invested  considerable  time,  effort  and  money  over  a  long  time,  I  would  in  a  way  consider  them  true  hobbyists.
 
 But  you  need  to  know  how  to  distinguish  between  A,  AA,  and  AAA  quality  or  what  ever  combination  of  letters  are  used  to  grade  discus,  and  not  be  taken  for  a  ride  by  the  numerous  hacks  in  the  country.  I  mean  NUMEROUS  hacks,  so  beware.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Thanks  surbabu140977.
 
 Thanks  a  lot  Mr.  Madan.  I  know  this  is  very  much  true.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Abhi,
 
 Not  just  Tank  bred  strains,  even  the  best  wild  caught  discus  are  meant  exclusively  for  Japan  !
 They  cost  a  bomb  there  at  about  $  2000  a  PIECE  !
 
 For  that  matter  all  the  best  wild  caught  fish  go  to  Japan  !
 
 The  Europeans  have  their  own  collection  teams  and  company  tie  up  in  Brazil  for  their  needs.
 
 The  moment  anyone  charges  Rs.  100000  a  discus  in  India  after  reading  my  post,  then  you'll  start  reading
 reports  of  customs  seizing  Discus  in  the  news  papers  and  TV  !
 
 So  people  if  anyone  charges  you  100000  for  a  discus  don't  buy  !  It  is  a  fake  !   ROFL
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Chuckle   Chuckle   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Where  can  I  get  good  quality  discus  in  Bangalore  ?  Any  known   Breeders  here  ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Question  is:  how  much  you  can  shell  out.
 
 3  varieties  are  mainly  apparent  in  bangalore.
 
 Imported  varieties  with  certificates:  Price  range  is  "no  range".  Typically  starts  from  4000  a  piece  to  even  30,000  a  piece.
 
 Indian  variety  but  good  quality.  Range  is  typically  within  200  -  5000.
 
 Poorly  mainained  Indian  variety.  Range  is  100-1500.
 
 Most  shops  in  Bangalore  sell  very  poor  quality  and  poorly  maintained  with  high  pricing.
 
 In  the  OLX  (bangalore.olx.in)  some  individual  ads  are  there  who  sells  good  quality  and  imported  discuss  at  reasonable  pricing.
 
 If  you  can  specify  your  budget  we  can  recommend  you  a  suitable  place/person.  (you  have  to  verify  and  check  quality  before  purchase).
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 @surbabu140977  :  Thanks  for  the  genereic  info  you  gave  on  pricing  rates...Can  you  please  PM  me  the  details  of  the  contact  person.  I  have  not  thought  of  a  budget  but  can  consider  what  you  have  told  as  "Indian  variety  but  good  quality".  Please  PM  me  on  the  same..
 Thanks  once  again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Difference between A, AA and AAA Grade discus? Reply with quote

 Have  just  pm'd  you.  If  you  decide  to  go  for  it,  let  me  know.  
 
 Best,
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