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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

 Can  anyone  suggest  for  good  economical  filteration  for  oscar.  Im  not  going  to  invest  canister  filter  like  stuffs.  But  I  want  to  keep  my  water  clear.  I  can  go  to  the  extent  of  using  internal  submersible  filter.  I  have  3feet  1  and  half  feet  height/width  tank.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

 I  used  the  Atman  Internal  filter  1100  lph  for  my  Oscar  tank,  same  size  as  yours.  You  can  only  keep  one  full  grown  O  in  a  tank  that  size  though.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

 Atman  600  L/Hr  would  do  for  you,  or  you  can  try  some  Boyu  make  too,  But  the  large  poops  have  to  be  siphoned  out....!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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 You  can  only  keep  one  full  grown  O  in  a  tank  that  size  though.                

 
 Not  necessary  pradeepji,  I  have  seen  full  sized  oscar  pairs  in  tanks  of  lesser  size  running  on  just  a  sponge  filter.
 Though,  if  daily  to  alternate  siphoning  is  not  done,  then  the  filtration  is  a  problem!
 
 Hey  oscarthik,  for  great  water  clarity,  run  an  internal  filter,  attach  an  appropriate  flexible  pipe  to  its  outlet,  run  that  pipe  through  some  kind  of  thin  plastic  bottle  filled  with  glass  wool,  and  hang  this  bottle  inside  the  hood  of  the  aquarium,  attach  another  pipe  to  the  other  end  of  the  bottle  and  let  it  go  in  the  tank.  Water  will    appear    very  clear!
 Appear  does  not  mean  filtration  problem  solved!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
cokeamod  wrote  (View  Post):                
Hey  oscarthik,  for  great  water  clarity,  run  an  internal  filter,  attach  an  appropriate  flexible  pipe  to  its  outlet,  run  that  pipe  through  some  kind  of  thin  plastic  bottle  filled  with  glass  wool,  and  hang  this  bottle  inside  the  hood  of  the  aquarium,  attach  another  pipe  to  the  other  end  of  the  bottle  and  let  it  go  in  the  tank.  Water  will    appear    very  clear!
 Appear  does  not  mean  filtration  problem  solved!
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 amod.                

 It  seems  a  good  idea.  BTW  what  is  glass  wool  and  where  can  one  get  it
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

 Hi  Sandeep,
 This  wool  is  available  in  shops  selling  pillows,price  is  not  much  should  be  about  100  per  kg,this  is  made  of  nylon.
 The  cheapest  and  best  way  to  keep  your  water  clean  would  be  to  make  partial  water  change  twice  a  week.
 with  regards
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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 You  can  only  keep  one  full  grown  O  in  a  tank  that  size  though.                

 
 Not  necessary  pradeepji,  I  have  seen  full  sized  oscar  pairs  in  tanks  of  lesser  size  running  on  just  a  sponge  filter.
 
 Hey  oscarthik,  for  great  water  clarity,  run  an  internal  filter,  attach  an  appropriate  flexible  pipe  to  its  outlet,  run  that  pipe  through  some  kind  of  thin  plastic  bottle  filled  with  glass  wool,  and  hang  this  bottle  inside  the  hood  of  the  aquarium,  attach  another  pipe  to  the  other  end  of  the  bottle  and  let  it  go  in  the  tank.  Water  will    appear    very  clear!
 Appear  does  not  mean  filtration  problem  solved!
 
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 Hey,  But  how  to  you  take  care  of  their  aggression  against  each  other  in  such  a  small  tank.
 
 Is  an  innovative  idea  of  double  filtering,  I  used  the  carbon  media  and  peat  plates  as  the  second  stage  filtering,  With  an  external  cannister  filter  which  is  much  similar  to  this  setup.  This  method  works  much  better  for  planted  tanks  where  in  one  can  have  a  more  current  control  of  water  if  second  stage  filtering  is  given  more  thought  with  internal  filters.
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Sandeep,
 This  wool  is  available  in  shops  selling  pillows,price  is  not  much  should  be  about  100  per  kg,this  is  made  of  nylon.
 The  cheapest  and  best  way  to  keep  your  water  clean  would  be  to  make  partial  water  change  twice  a  week.
 with  regards
 Shishir  Kamat                

 Thanks  is  it  the  same  thing  that  is  stuffed  inside  pillows,  my  kids  have  just  torn  apart  some  pillows.  If  it  is  same  I  can  atleast  put  these  torn  pillows  to  use.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

 Sandeep,
 Glass  wool  is  also  called  as  wadding  material  and  is  mainly  used  for  filling  up  pillows,  it  is  also  used  in  manufacturing  jackects  as  it  is  a  good  insulation  material,  reliance  is  one  of  the  main  manufactures  of  this  item  and  is  normally  sold  between  Rs.  60  to  Rs.  80  a  kg.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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Not  necessary  pradeepji,  I  have  seen  full  sized  oscar  pairs  in  tanks  of  lesser  size  running  on  just  a  sponge  filter.  
                 

 That  does  not  always  mean  the  fish  is  happy  or  is  healthy...a  full  grown  adult  oscar  needs  minimum  of  55  gallons  of  water....thats  the  bare  minimum.So  for  a  pair  at  least  a  100  gallon  tank.
 Also  for  a  fish  like  oscar  sponge  filter  is  of  no  use.U  may  as  well  not  put  anything.A  power  filter  or  better  a  hefty  canister  filter  is  needed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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Not  necessary  pradeepji,  I  have  seen  full  sized  oscar  pairs  in  tanks  of  lesser  size  running  on  just  a  sponge  filter.  
                 

 That  does  not  always  mean  the  fish  is  happy  or  is  healthy...a  full  grown  adult  oscar  needs  minimum  of  55  gallons  of  water....thats  the  bare  minimum.So  for  a  pair  at  least  a  100  gallon  tank.
 Also  for  a  fish  like  oscar  sponge  filter  is  of  no  use.U  may  as  well  not  put  anything.A  power  filter  or  better  a  hefty  canister  filter  is  needed.
 Hamza                

 
 Hamza  is  right.  Since  the  Oscars  have  no  choice  in  the  matter  you  will  find  them  in  strange  and  peculiar  situations.  This  one  takes  the  cake.  My  neighbor  made  a  two  inch  wide  and  six  inch  long  tank  and  placed  his   juvenile  Oscars  in  it.  Thought  they  looked  cute  since  they  could  not  turn.  Easy  for  him  to  lift  tilt  and  quick  change  water  too.  Had  to  convince  him  to  replace  the  Oscars  with  a  Betta.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Filteration for Oscar Reply with quote

 Full  grown  oscars  will  never  be  happy  in  any  tank  smaller  than  4  feet  long.   You  can  even  have  a  pair  in  a  4  footer,  but  a  3  footer  is  way  too  small.   Instead  of  going  in  terms  of  water  capacity  its  better  to  go  for  the  longest  and  the  widest  tank  possible.   Go  for  a  4  footer,  have  a  power  filter  &  make  weekly  WCs  and  you  are  done.
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 thanks  guys...i  dont  know  when  it  comes  to  oscars  what  happens  to  me....guess  because  they  are  my  fav  fish  they  have  a  bit  of  a  soft  corner   Thumb Up  
 And  them  having  a  reputation  of  being  hardy  tough  mean  aggressive  fish  does  not  help  one  bit...they  are  aggressive  yes  if  you  keep  them  with  gold  fish  but  in  comparison  to  other  cichlids  they  are  pretty  docile.Yes  they  are  tough  as  in  they  can  take  a  wide  range  of  water  parameters  but  that  does  not  mean  you  dont  have  to  do  water  change  and  give  them  proper  conditions  to  thrive.
 Its  such  a  gorgeous  fish  hurts  at  time  when  people  ill  treat  it   Sad
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 To  add  to  what  toomanyfish  has  mentioned.
 
 People  tend  to  believe  that  these  are  hardy  fish  and  tend  to  just  ignore  water  quality  /  space  requirements  of  them  and  make  these  cuties  vulnarable  to  diseases.
 
 So  my  sinciere  request  to  fellow  hobbiest  is  to  either  give  them  bigger  home  with  good  water  quality  or  just  forget  them  being  there  in  ones   tank.
 
 
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 HI,
 
 I  hate  LFS..i  had  a  2x2x1.5  tank  and  after  hearing  embrassing  comments  from  a  lot  of  people  i  gave  away  that  tank  and  got  a  4x1x1.5  tank  and  still  people  say  its  bad.
 
 I  should  have  went  for  like  a  6x2x2  tank  instead  would  have  costed  a  bit  more  but  atleast  it  would  have  worth  something  to  put  in  like  Cichlids  etc.
 
 Arrrgh.
 
 Thanks.
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