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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Did  any  body   tried  10  mm  down  size  stone  chips  as  top  coat  of  substrata?  Shall  i  try  this  for  my  proposed  planted  neon  tank.  any  suggestion?  Am  I  looking  stupid?
 
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 stone  chips  won't  supply  any  nutrition  to  your  plants  -  much  like  gravel.  they  can  simply  hold  the  plant  and  help  in  aeration  -  because  of  the  gaps  between  them.  period.  nothing  else.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Aditi
 For  a  planted  tank,  you  can  have  two  layers  of  substrate.
 The  lower  substrate  be  river  sand,  laterite  about  2-3  mm  in  dia,  this  substrate  should  be  about  2-2.5  inch  deep.  Top  it  off  with  substrate  of  your  choice,  about  1".
 This  will  give  you  a  substrate  of  3-4  inches.
 For  top  layers  I  have  used  a  variety  of  substrates,  keep  in  mind  following
   Â (a)  It  should  not  be  glass  pebbels,  they  are  sharp  &  hurt  fishes.
   Â (b)  It  should  be  inhert,  a  simple  test  is  to  put  some  drops  of  vinegar,  it  should  not  fizzle.
   Â (c)  It  should  look  natural  as  far  as  possible,  a  substrate  like  a  Star  Trek  deck  does  not  look  nice.
   (d)  Stores  selling  flooring  material  are  good  place  to  pick  up  these  gravels  at  dirt  cheap  cost,  just  avoid  marble  chips(however  I  have  used  them  with  no  iil  efects).
 
 Too  large  pieces  in  substrate  are  noramlly  not  a  good  choice,  they  create  gaps  in  which  food  falls  &  rots.
 I  have  used  tanks  with  river  sand  only,  and  it  looks  nice.  (if  you  ignore  my  camera  &  my  skills)  Chuckle


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 I  have  used  3  to  5  mm  small  marble  chips  as  the  top  most  layer  without  any  adverse  effect  on  the  fishes  or  plants,  this  was  done  just  to  ensure  proper  anchorage  of  plant  roots  in  the  tank  which  other  wise  at  times  are  pulled  out  by  few  fishes  when  young  in  the  tank....
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Hi  Aditi,
 10mm  is  1cm  -  I  think  using  sand  would  be  a  better  idea!
 How  big  is  your  tank?  What  do  you  plan  to  grow  in  it  -  I  mean  which  plant?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Sandeep,
 
 Your  tank  looks  tempting,  a  good  work  indeed,  all  the  fishes  look  happy,  I  think  you  have  used  Valls  at  the  back?
 I  don't  know  how  will  I  be  able  to  manage  to  visit  you  on  a  Sunday  to  pick  up  the  PMDD  as  most  of  the  time  the  day  starts  late  on  a  holiday  and  subsequently  the  entire  day's  routine  is  delayed....will  call  you  on  Sunday  and  see  if  I  can  manage  this  time.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

                                                   
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1)Did  any  body  Â tried  10  mm  down  size  stone  chips  as  top  coat  of  substrata?
 
 
 2)Shall  i  try  this  for  my  proposed  planted  neon  tank.  any  suggestion?

   3)  Am  I  looking  stupid?Aditi                

 
 1)   NOT  ME!
 2)  NO!!!!!!!!!!
 3)  You  are  not  considering  that:-  a)  they  are  too  large,  will  trap  fallen  food  and  foul  water,  and  b)  they  have  sharp  edges  which  would  scratch  the  fish-infection-death/bad  health.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Aditi,  10mm  is  too  big  in  size,  try  and  stick  to  noting  more  than  4-5mm  for  the  topmost  layer.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Hi  everybody
 
 I  just  would  like  to  know  your  opinion  on  use  of  "Crushed  Clay  Bricks  mixed  with  Coco  peat"  as  bottom  layer  of  substrate.
 
 Do  you  think  that  this  mixute  can  provide  acceptable  CEC?
 
 Top  layer  will  be  prepared  with  coarse  sand  particles.  (Another  query,  do  you  think,  use  of  Sand  particles  can  lead  to  brown  algae  problem  due  to  silica  leaching)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Hi  Rana,
   Why  do  you  wanna  go  for  Brick  powder  as  it  has  many  of  the  required  chemicals  burnt.
 
 Also  why  do  you  wanna  add  peat  ????
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: stone chips as substrata Reply with quote

 Hello  Raghu
 
 I  want  to  use  small  brick  chips/grannules,  not  exactly  dust.  Brunt  clay  will  retain  all  the  minerals  within  it,  except  the  organics.  Clay  bricks  chips  are  porous  and  non  reactive,  so  if  this  has  good  CEC,  with  regular  use  of  Trace  supplement,  these  particles  can  absorb  and  retain  the  essential  minerals  for  use  to  the  plant  roots.
 
 Coco  peat  will  also  provide  porosity  to  the  substrate  and  provide  mechanism  for  slow  relase  of  organics.
 
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