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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 Yo  people  and  planted  nuts  here!
 
 I  am  on  the  verge  of  setting  up  a  small  planted  tank  for  a  good  friend  of  mine,  inspite  of  him  knowing  how  GOOD  i  am  with  these!   Smile  
 
 The  available  space  for  the  tank  is  4  x  2  feet.  The  base  is  just  about  2.5  feet  from  the  floor,  over  which  this  tank  is  going  to  be.  I  am  looking  forward  for  a  short  tank  like  4  x  2  x  1.25  (L-B-H)  feet.  One  of  the  reasons  for  this  shorter  height  is  the  tank  would  be  an  open  top  one;  the  light  fixtures  that  would  be  mounted  on  the  tank  top  need  to  be  lower  than  or  at  the  most  equal  to  the  eye  level,  i  wish,  considering  no  light  to  irritate  the  onlookers'  eyes.  Secondly,  i  feel  some  plants  look  as  great  when  viewed  from  the  top.
 
 We  are  yet  not  very  specific  on  plant  species,  but  are  only  looking  forward  to  a  planted  tank  that  looks  well  maintained  and  well  aquascaped.
 
 I  know  that  my  first  dive  wont  be  an  olympic  one.  Will  make  a  splash  for  sure.  Just  want  to  make  sure  this  doesn't  turn  out  to  be  a  big  splash,  with  the  help  of  you  people.  Chuckle  
 
 Comments  and  suggestions  welcome.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 Shankar,
   "  the  light  fixtures  that  would  be  mounted  on  the  tank  top  need  to  be  lower  than  or  at  the  most  equal  to  the  eye  level,  i  wish  "  
 
   Not  a  good  idea  to  me.....  Can  be  above  too.  The  visibility  of  the  plants  and  fishes  would  not  be  too  great  if  its  below  the  eye  level  as  the  light  leakages  can  irritate  at  times.  So  one  has  to  ensure  that  the  light  does  not  leak  from  the  hood.
 
 "  i  feel  some  plants  look  as  great  when  viewed  from  the  top.  "
 
 Personal  feeling  if  this  is  the  reason  then  you  are  better  of  sticking  to  the  size.  But  some  how  i  think  otherwise.  I  would  always  live  with  a  2  footer  as  this  gives  me  a  lot  of  option  of  plants  especially  the  stems  and  valls.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 In  that  case  i  might  not  even  go  for  the  stem  plants.  Wonder  why  the  Amanos  here  are  silent  yet!   Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 Rule  1-  15  inch  height  no  stems.
 
 Unless  you  want  to  constantly  disturb  the  aquascape,  prune  and  adjust  dosing.
 
 Rule  2  -  2  feet  depth  and  15  inch  height  gives  you  less  options  to  show  off  the  depth  of  the  tank.
 
 To  overcome  this  problem,
 
 Use  only  T8  tubes  for  lighting,  Phillips  Trulights,  4  nos  would  be  more  than  enough.  Keep  Crypts,  Ronalsima  rostrata,  Roriappa  aquatica,  to  get  the  depth  of  the  tank  in  perspective.  Use  Fissidens  fontinalis  on  driftwood.
 
 Use  one  variety  of  stem  plant  only  if  at  all  you  want  to,  Rotola  rotundifolia  "Red"  in  a  back  corner  to  form  a  triangle  and  give  it  a  unrestricted  view  with  Ronalsima  rostrata  in  front  of  it.
 
 Aquaspotworld.in  should  be  getting  in  4  feet  Amano  T8s.  They  would  be  very  good  for  this  tank.  You  have  an  option  of  using  3  ADA  T8s  and  increase  it  to  4  if  required.
 
 Do  not  plant/place  a  highlight  in  the  center,  and  completely  avoid  symmetry.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  inputs.  I  hate  symmetry  too.   Smile  
 
 There  is  an  option  of  a  tiny  alteration  and  have  this  tank  a  3  sided  view.  In  that  case,  there  would  be  no  place  for  the  idea  of  foreground  plants  as  such.  Hence  was  giving  a  wild  thought  of  something  like  this:
 http://www.myfishtank.net/images/amano/amano6.jpg  with  a  shorter  height.
 
 What  says??
 
 Also  would  like  to  know  what  plants  /  moss  would  make  a  perfect  and  nice  green  bed.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 see  if  this  interests  you  -  I  happened  to  see  it  at  Aqua-India,  Mumbai.  This  tank  was  displayed  by  Nautilus  aquasystems  and  I  guess  the  only  plants  used  are  Glossos  and  some  moss  on  the  driftwood.  Though,  you  know  how  'good'  I'm  with  plants.  Â Smile  Â but,  just  thought  the  aquascape  might  appeal  to  you!
 
 Wish  you  all  the  best!!


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 Was  that  length  of  wood  too  long  to  be  accomodated  in  the  tank?  Or  that's  creativity?   Chuckle
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and  I  guess  the  only  plants  used  are  riccia  and  some  moss  on  the  driftwood.                  

 Nauzer.  That  lawn  does  not  look  like  Riccia.  It  looks  more  like  glosso.
 
 
                                                 
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 Also  would  like  to  know  what  plants  /  moss  would  make  a  perfect  and  nice  green  bed.
                 

 Why  don't  you  give  hair  grass  a  try.  Within  a  few  weeks  you  won't  be  able  to  see  any  of  the  black  Aqua  soil.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: My first step in Planted tanks.. Reply with quote

 Shankar,  wanna  go  hi  tech?
 
 If  you  wanna  drive  a  Ferrari,  try  glosso,  CO2,  MH,  dosing....  
 
 
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 Hi  Shankar
 Hi  tech  is  the  way  to  go  sir,
 
 I  am  in  the  process  of  setting  up  a  hitech  nano,  waiting  for  the  ADA  soil  diffusers  etc.
 Will  post  the  setup  details  once  it  is  ready.
 
 Trevor  your  tank  looks  awesome  sir,  Are  you  using  ADA  soil?
 
 Way  to  go  Nitin
 
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 Aquaspotworld.in  should  be  getting  in  4  feet  Amano  T8s.  They  would  be  very  good  for  this  tank.  You  have  an  option  of  using  3  ADA  T8s  and  increase  it  to  4  if  required.                

 
 That's  right.  Have  you  been  following  us?   ROFL  
 
 In  any  case,  try  giving  Adip  a  call  to  see  if  he  can  help  you  with  the  plants  selection  and  the  setup.
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Nauzer.  That  lawn  does  not  look  like  Riccia.  It  looks  more  like  glosso.                

 Sorry  Trevor  it  shows  I  have  a  lot  to  learn  from  you!!!
 @Lalu,
 
                                                 
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Was  that  length  of  wood  too  long  to  be  accomodated  in  the  tank?  Or  that's  creativity?                  

 God  knows  what  the  problem  was  but,  you  sure  got  your  chance  to  criticise!!  Keep  up  the  good  work!
 Anyways,  it  was  not  mine  so  I  have  nothing  to  say   Smile
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In  any  case,  try  giving  Adip  a  call  to  see  if  he  can  help  you  with  the  plants  selection  and  the  setup.                

 
 Are  you  reading  this  Adipa?  Well  Ben,  This  bugger  has  become  a  lot  more  lazy  nowadays.  I  can  bet.
 
 Mayur  and  Nytyn,  going  hitech  would  be  like  driving  a  Ferrari,  as  you  said.  Mistakes  could  be  expensive.  Let  me  learn  with  the  entry  level  segmented  cars  first.
 
 And  Nauzer  ignore  LP's  critics.  He  has  been  like  that.  What  does  he  know  about  planted  tanks..  Smile
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 I  came  across  a  link  sometime  back  listing  out  the  number  of  applicants  per  country  for  ADA  2006  contest.  There  was  1  from  India.  Who  is  that?
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 Hey  Shankar,
 
 Am  always  around  to  help  you  mate...get  your  Substrate  and  i  will  help  you  with  the  plants  first  decide  on  how  hi-tech  or  low  tech  you  want  to  go???  Chuckle   Chuckle   Chuckle
 
 Mosses  will  not  do  well  in  Chennai   unless  you  use  a  chiller.....
 
 All  the  best  marine  Guru  welcome  to  the  planted  world........  Thumb Up   Thumb Up   Thumb Up  
 
 
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