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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hi  Group,
 
 I  have  a  4'  length  aquarium.  I  have  around  15  tiger  barbs,  4  widow  tetras,  a  few  ruby  barbs.  The  aquarium  is  running  well  for  almost  10  months.  From  last  week,  mny  fishes  are  dying  mysteriously  with  bent  bodies.  The  bend  is  a  regular  bend  like  a  the  alphabet  C.  Any  help  is  greatly  appreciated.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hi  Shan,
 
 Sorry  about  your  loss.
 
 My  fronts  (less  than  2  inches)died  the  same  manner  couple  of  months  back  and  I  was  told  that  it  was  all  attacked  by  the  bigger  ones.  
 
 I  am  not  sure  if  thats  the  case  with  yours  too.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hey!!!
   Have  you  cycled  your  tank  if  so  for  how  many  days?????  Whats  your  feeding  regime  like????
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Not  very  sure  but  lack  of  oxygen  can  cause  these  deaths,  my  malawi  tank  got  wiped  out  in  a  similar  manner  with  all  the  fishes  bent  and  floating,  the  very  reason  was  my  filter  broke  and  the  tank  was  left  unattended  for  more  than  7  hours.....  Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 I  think  ammonia  poisoning  can  also  cause  bent  bodies.  Just  something  to  consider...
 Are  you  changing  water  regularly?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 How  where  they  before  they  died  ??  Where  they  breathing  abnormally  before  dying  ??  I  hope  you  had  cycled  your  tank  before  adding  the  fishes.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hi  Group,
 
 Thanks  for  all  your  inputs.  My  answers  to  your  questions:
 
 1)  I  cycled  my  tanks  for  about  more  than  a  month  before  adding  those  fishes.
 2)  I  used  to  change  water  weekly  or  fortnightly.
 3)  My  filter  is  a  2400L/hour  and  is  on  for  all  24  hours  of  day.
 4)  For  some  days  i  switched  off  the  filter  and  that  may  be  the  reason.
 5)  Sometimes  the  fish  used  to  come  to  surface  and  gas  for  air.  Now  the  filter  is  on  all  the  time.
 6)  Before  dying,  their  bodies  become  bent  and  will  become  inactive.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 I  Suppose  this  is  indeed  due  to  filter  turn  off  that  the  ammonia  might  have  been  built  up  and  they  would  have  died  due  to  that.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Yes,  it  is  due  to  rise  in  ammonia  levels.  Keep  the  filter  on  24/7.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 A  filter  is  never  meant  to  be  shut  off  ever,  a  filter  does  not  perform  mechinical  cleaning  only,  one  of  the  mose  important  tasks  it  does  it  to  keep  nitrifying  alive  in  your  aquarium.  These  convert  ammonia  from  fishes  to  nitrites  &  nitrates.
 Get  hold  of  a  ammonia  tst  kit,  nesselar's  reagent  will  also  do,  test  for  ammonia.  in  the  meanwhile  put  some  salt  in  water,  it  will  help  in  ammonia  poisioning.  Start  with  water  changes  25%  every  2  days.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hi  
 
 I  dont  want  to  sound  cynical  ,  but  i  lost  a  huge  amount  fish  last  week  myself  ,  yesterday  was  the  first  day  in  two  weeks  that  i  dint  loose  a  fish.  
 
 Its  a  question  that  haunts  every  hobbist  ,  why  did  my  fish  die  ?  
 
 I  have  been  researching  for  the  last  few  days  and  have  come  with  varied  answers  .  while  most  of  the  suggestions  maybe  a  part  of  the  puzzle  but  not  does  not  complete  the  puzzle  itself.  
 
 
 I  read  about  this  post   about  Mycobacteriosis(fish  tuberculosis)  this  disease  is  a  chronic,  progressive  bacterial  disease,  this  may  be  may  be  characterized  by  inflammation  of  the  skin,  scale  loss  ,  black  patches,  Pop-eye,  ulceration.  
 
 Fish  may  become  sluggish  and  bloated  and  develop  fin  rot  as  well  as  scale  loss.  If  infection  spreads  to  the  skeletal  system,  deformities  such  as  a  bent  spine  may  be  noticed.  this  is  generally  seen  in  tetra's  ,  rainbows,  etc  
 
 Since  you  said  they  all  had  a  bent  spine  i  thought  it  might  be  worthwhile  to  relook  at  all  parameters  .  Also  request  you  think  hard  to  see  if  there  is  something  you  did  that  is  out  of  the  odinary  ,  like  a  large  water  change  ,  new  type  of  feed  ,  any  additions  of  ferts  ,  liquids  ,  change  of  water  source  ,   dechrolirination  change  
 
 This  might  help  you  find  a  trigger  ..I  am  not  sure  whether  you  shut  the  filter  for  the  first  time  and  then  the  fishes  died  if  that  is  the  case  then  maybe  the  inference  is  ok  and  if  you  keep  your  filter  on  then  it  should  sort  the  probelm  ,  if  it  is  was  not  the  first  time  then  why  did  the  fish  die  now  ...  
 
 Sorry  for  the  loss  and  I  hope  u  can  find  a  way  to  prevent  this.  I  am  also  seaching  for  answers  for  a  similiar  question  ...  no  real  answers  as  of  now  
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hi,
 Check  if  there  is  stray  current  in  your  tank,this  could  be  one  of  the  reasons
 with  warm  regards
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 Dont  you  think  a  2400  L/H  filter  is  an  overkill  in  just  4  feet  tank  which  housed  with  Barbs  &  Tetras.  They  dont  prefer  this  much  of  water  current.  Drinking


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Hi  
 I  have  been  researching  for  the  last  few  days  and  have  come  with  varied  answers  .  while  most  of  the  suggestions  maybe  a  part  of  the  puzzle  but  not  does  not  complete  the  puzzle  itself.  
 
 I  read  about  this  post  Â about  Mycobacteriosis(fish  tuberculosis)  this  disease  is  a  chronic,  progressive  bacterial  disease,  this  may  be  may  be  characterized  by  inflammation  of  the  skin,  scale  loss  ,  black  patches,  Pop-eye,  ulceration.  
 Thanks  
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 Hi  Ranjith,
 
 The  most  common  cause  of  death  in  this  way  is  because  of  ammonia  poisoning.  Fish  tuberculosis  is  not  something  that  happens  all  of  a  sudden,  unless  you  bought  infected  fish.  Most  of  the  time  our  fish  loss  is  mainly  due  to  our  carelessness  and  not  exactly  disease.
 
 From  Shanmu's  answers,  the  most  possible  reason  is  ammonia  spike  caused  by  switching  off  the  filter.  Another  clue  is  the  fish  gasping  for  air.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Fish dying with bent bodies Reply with quote

 Fish  TB  is  known  to  cause  deformities  but  these  appear  some  time  before  the  fish  dies.  More  often  the  fish  simply  wastes  away  and  dies.  In  addition,  as  Suraj  has  pointed  out,  so  many  fish  dies  in  a  short  time  points  more  to  ammonia  poisoning.
 
 Ammonia  poisoning  can  cause  the  body  to  be  bent.  The  muscles  contract  along  the  whole  body  -  but  one  side  usually  is  more  which  causes  the  body  to  be  bent.  A  similar  thing  can  occur  when  a  fish  gets  eloctocuted  but  I  dont  think  this  is  the  case  here.
 
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