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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: cichlids as "sitting ducks" Reply with quote

 A  few  of  my  cichlids  has  been  gasping  for  breath  and  gets  exhausted  easily  with  frequent  sitting  on  the  gravel  or  on  some  rock.Things  start  by  redening  of  the  mouth  ,then  the  fins  get  red  and  then  they  start  to  sit  down  .They  continue  toeat.To  ELIMINATE  THE  INFECTION  PART  I  had  acid  washed  the  entire  setup.These  days  for  water  change  I  am  using  ageing  water  and  dechlorinator.After  using  this  kind  of  water  I  find  no  more  new  affected  cichlids  but  the  affected  ones  are  not  recovering.Can  anybody  through  some  light  on  these  "sitting  duck"  cichlids.I  have  a  40  gallon  tank  with  only  cichlids.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: Re: cichlids as "sitting ducks" Reply with quote

 I  know  nothing  about  chichilds  behave  but  still  I  may  have  a  clue.  There  are  few  fishes(Tiger  Barb  e.t.c)  whos  Face  or  Body  part  turn  red  if  there  is  any  nitrate/Nitrite  spike  in  tank.  
 
 Just  to  play  save,  check  your  tank  water  parameter  once  to  make  sure  there  is  no  Nitrate/Nitrite  spike  as  such.  [Smile]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: Re: cichlids as "sitting ducks" Reply with quote

 What  do  you  mean  by  'acid  washed'?  Isnt  that  what  is  done  to  new  jeans  at  the  factory  to  make  them  look  old  and  torn  and  half  digested?
 
 If  there  is  any  chance  that  some  of  the  stuff  you  used  for  cleaning  has  remained  back  in  the  tank  then  it  can  be  a  cause  for  pH  swings.  Maybe  thats  the  cause.
 
 Is  your  tank  less  than  a  month  or  two  old?  If  you  give  a  more  detailed  description  of  the  tank  it  would  help  us  better  to  help  you.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: Re: cichlids as "sitting ducks" Reply with quote

 Reddening  of  areas...  sounds  like  Ammonia  burns  Sad
 
 Are  you  sure  you  have  the  tank  cycled  properly  ?
 And  what's  the  size  of  the  tank  and  filtration  you  have.
 
 And  as  Deepesh  suggested,  always  make  sure  the  tank  is  very  sterile  and  clear  of  all  chemicals  after  every  treatment  (acid  wash  is  not  recommended  at  all)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: Re: cichlids as "sitting ducks" Reply with quote

 The  symptoms  look  like  ammonia  burns,  ammonia  burns  the  gills  of  fishes.  This  them  to  breathe  heavily  and  also  tires  them.  If  ammonia  persists  then  red  burn  marks  appear  on  skin.
 Your  problem  in  initial  stage  is  absence  of  nitrifying  bacteria,a  nd  your  "acid  washing"  has  kiiled  all  benefecial  bacteria  you  might  be  having  and  your  tank  will  start  to  cycle  again.
 Please  read  more  on  nitrogen  cycling  and  how  to  keep  your  nitrifying  bacteria  colony  happy.
 Start  by  putting  some  non  iodised  salt  in  water,  approx  one  teaspoon  for  each  5  gallons,  slowly  take  it  to  one  teaspoon  to  each  gallon  over  10-15  days.
 Salt  reduces  damage  due  to  ammonia,  and  will  also  help  if  there  is  some  infection.
 However  you  have  to  ensure  that  there  is  no  residual  acid  left  as  it  will  be  disaster  for  fishes.
 BTW  you  never  need  to  acid  wash  anything.  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: cichlids as "sitting ducks" Reply with quote

 Hi  Debesh,
 
 You  will  have  to  first  give  complete  details  if  you  want  others  to  give  you  solutions.  
 
 1.  A  40  gallon  tank  but  size  specifications  will  help.
 2.  Cichlids  -  Angels,  Tangyanikan,  Malawi,  South  American,  Discus,  Apistos  -  All  are  cichlids.  So  do  mention  what  you  have.
 3.  When  did  you  start  this  tank?  How  long  did  it  cycle?
 4.  Fish  numbers.
 5.  Filtration.
 6.  Decor  -  Rocks,  Sand,  Plants  etc.
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