Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
Have not posted in a long time as i had been really busy but not finally getting time to get my hobby back on track.had taken a break from discus but i guess once you keep them there is no way you can get out.
Last sunday visited Ritesh (Nanu) place and loved his tank...many of you might have seen the pics posted here...which is really tempting me to go in for a planted tank myself
but i have tried it once before and failed miserably so want to take things slow..right now have 6 discus and 20 odd tetras in aa 3 18 21 i might add 2 or 4 discus more to this..they all between 3 and 4 inches...
now i wanna start slow with some driftwood with annubias tied on in a bare tank and see how it goes from there...do i need to add co2 to the tank just for annubias??also i have a hitachi tube in my tank do i need to add any other sort of special light for the plants to grow?and what about ferts?can i add some crypts in pots too?
looking forward to all your replies and Ritesh dont know if i should hate u or no for putting the planted discus tank bug in my head
right now have 6 discus and 20 odd tetras in aa 3 18 21 i might add 2 or 4 discus more to this..they all between 3 and 4 inches...
now i wanna start slow with some driftwood with annubias tied on in a bare tank and see how it goes from there...
do i need to add co2 to the tank just for annubias??
Think twice before injecting CO2 in a Discus Aquarium, may cause pH swings, all depends on the waters buffering capacity(please lookup). IMO, CO2 is not necessary. Moreover when you say that you've failed in your previous attempts top keep a planted aquarium, now with Discus it's certainly not advisable.
also i have a hitachi tube in my tank do i need to add any other sort of special light for the plants to grow?
Hitachi lamp may make your fish look nice, I personally don't prefer this. You can opt for Philips Truelite or a combination of 6500K & 4000K lamps, T8 should do just about fine. 2W-3W/gallon should be fine.
Crypts generally melt with drastic water changes & may not do as well, besides they won't be able to tolerate the temperatures in a Discus Aquarium. However, there is no harm in giving it a try.
When selecting plants keep in mind the following â€“ Light, Temperature, Water changes, all w.r.t to fish requirements, assuming these are on priority. Best to select slow growing plants with low light requirements & not so demanding in terms of substrate or can grow on Driftwood or rocks.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
What Nanu is saying is just as simple as it sounds. Trust yourself, it's not at all difficult.
Just be patient with the plants and the fish, and you'll have a lovely tank.
Hamza you are my Guru for my Discus, just trust yourself and go ahead with plants and I am sure you will be fine, and ofcourse there is IAH for help.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: Re: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
My situation now is that I have had 14 Discus (most of them around 4.5 + inches), 40 cardinals, 3 corys & 2 saimaise algae eaters (who do a marvelous job), in a 6 feet tank with bare bottom and 8 anubia plants growing very well with a 30% water change every day.
The water is around 320 TDS and pH around 7.2.
The anubias are growing well in a mix of 6500K (2 nos.) & 4000K (2 nos.) 2 feets tube lights.
I have never used any ferts. but tried to keep the temp. constant at 28 deg. cel. and water exchanges regular.
With this set-up I have had 3 breeding pairs (with the frys out multiple times) but haven't got the time to go all the way :-( due to my work schedule.
hope this helps.
Also, i can be reached on 09886627475, if need be.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
Sorry Rocky the last tank just does not appeal to me...
I want to do exactly what Bharghav had done here...
Bharghav would you like sharing some experience about running this tank...i have 6 discus in a 3 18 21 and planning to add a pair of rose reds..for some reason just like Nanu even am getting more inclided towards the older strains rather than the new hybrid ones hence the rose reds.
Mate we have a bit of a role reversal in the last 6 months you the ones who has the discus breeding all around you while i was struggling to keep them alive and thats why i took that little break from disucs...all the best and i wish i could have taken you fish..had i not bought these ones i would have certainly picked your up.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
...Hamza, got a new book form Degen it has some info on the Planted tanks and Discus, can give it to you this evening...."Discus: The reference book"
...Why not shift this tank sooner to the new place and we can start work on it sooner, that way I can also give you some of the plants that I have, and help you set it up..if you need any holding tanks you know I have some spare now...
..about the fish I spoke to Peter, he will keep them for me he says if I want him to hold them, or he can even sell them if the need comes...
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
Thanks Rocky for posting my old tank pic as a reference here.
Over the past year, i ahve tried various variations of a planted bare-bottom discus tank. I currently have four discus, forty cardinals, 4 clown loaches and f cory cats in a 48 inch X 21 X 21 tank. It has potted plants - anubias, sword plants all in black plastic pots. It works well for me. Will try and post some pictures soon.
Earlier, I had tried anubias in wood. The big problem here was that uneaten beefheart and waste would accumulate under the wood...so you had to take the wood out during every WC. This can be a quite a chore. With black plastic bots, this is not necessary. I just tried DIY Co2 2 weeks ago and saw phenemenal growth in plants. But even as new leaves were sprouting up, the older ones were growing dark an withering away. Guess this is due to lack of fertiliser.
I am waiting for my discus to grown out to full size. Once they grow fully, I am planning to convert this into a fully planted tank.
IMHO fully planted tanks are ok for adult discus, when low- beefheart feeding (once in 2-3 days and tetrabits or frozen bloodworms hikari) and less frequent water change (once a week) may be adequate (deends on your stocking of course.) But for discus to grow, a BB tanks with daily WC and heavy feeding is a must.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: Re: cut out to keep a planted discus tank???
I have been keeping discus since 2 years, initially i tried keeping them in a planted tank but did not work out, feeding BHM makes a mess in the planted tank, so converted it to BB.
After my discus are more than 18 months old, i stopped feeding them meat mix and now feeds only Tetra bits.
Last month i added some aquarium sand and put in couple of sword plants. With just one fluorescent tube the plants may not grow well, but at Rs.10 plants are disposable, it will stay for couple of months then can be replaced.
Adding the sand, few rocks and plants has made the tank look much better and even the fish seems to like it, more about it in another post.
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