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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Hi all - (edit) with some queries Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Im  Deepak  from  Mysore.  I  have  been  a  fish  lover  (mean  to  watch  not  eat  Wink  )  for  long  but  have  been  procrastinating  on  having  an  aquarium  all  these  years  due  to  travel  and  various  reasons.
 
 Finally  decided  that  I  should  do  it  and  spent  8+  hours  last  night  on  this  site  Smile  and  finally  registered.  Will  be  posting  all  the  noobish  queries  from  now  on.  
 
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 Deepak
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all Reply with quote

 Welcome  Deepak.
 
 You  will  certainly  find  a  lot  of  threads  that  might  be  answering  your  queries.  Feel  free  to  ask  and  participate,  if  you  dont  find  one.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all Reply with quote

 wellcome  to  IAH  Deepak
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all Reply with quote

 Thanks  Shankar  and  Deepak.  
 
 Ofcourse  I  will  be  reading  a  lot.  Im  just  going  through  sections  on  each  aspect  and  noting  down  information  as  well  as  questions  I  have.  Theres  quite  a  lot,  but  enjoying  it  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all Reply with quote

 Welcome  to  the  best  place  for  aquarium  know  how..  Regards..
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all Reply with quote

 I  have  been  reading  and  collecting  all  the  information  I  can.  But  still  have  quite  a  few  questions.  Here  it  goes  -
 
 This  is  going  to  my  first  ever  aquarium.  My  earlier  knowledge  being  knowing  few  of  the  common  LFS  fishes.  Have  tried  providing  full  information  even  though  I  might  not  have  queries  -  suggestions  on  these  are  welcome  as  well.
 
 Intend  to  have  a  planted  aquarium,  will  be  doing  all  that  has  been  suggested  here  i.e  initially  just  having  the  plants  and  'cycling'  Smile  for  initial  weeks  before  getting  any  fish  Â 
 
 Tank  -  Have  two  options  a)  30"x15"x18"H  for  which  I  have  a  table  (Im  confident  that  it  will  support  the  weight)  b)  36"x18"x18"H  for  which  I  will  have  to  get  a  stand.  I  think  decision  will  depend  on  how  it  goes  with  Vitamin  M.
 
 Plants  -  Not  yet  sure,  but  will  have  a  look  at  LFS  and  also  my  neighbour  who  grows  plants  in  cement  tanks.
 Planning  the  setup  without  CO2  initially.  Please  let  me  know  if  this  is  not  the  right  thing  to  do.  The  most  I  can  opt  for  now  is  DIY  CO2.
 
 Fish  -  
 In  terms  of  fish,  is  it  possible  for  a  beginner  to  start  with  all  native  species?  I  dont  have  much  of  any  liking  for  guppies,  golds  and  such.
 If  members  can  suggest  some  native  species  which  are  hardy  and  easy  to  get,  that  would  be  of  great  help.  
 For  now,  have  zebra  danios  in  my  list.
 
 Filter  -
 Thinking  of  internal  filter  to  start  with.  Suggestions  would  definitely  help  me  here.  I  see  that  there  are  members  who  also  run  related  businesses,  would  be  great  if  they  can  PM  me  quotes/suggestions
 
 Lights  -
 Have  to  still  go  through  this  part.  T8s  T5s  or  simpler  ones....  Suggestions  are  welcome,  but  still  havent  done  my  homework  here.
 
 Bogwood/driftwood  -
 Have  couple  of  old  branches  which  were  cut  from  mango/jackfruit  tree.  Not  sure  if  they  are  good  for  the  purpose.  Will  post  with  pictures  in  the  proper  section  over  the  weekend.  Have  put  them  in  water  for  now  and  one  has  already  sunk.
 
 Others  like  -  heater,  test  strips  etc
 Please  suggest  me  on  this  part.  Im  not  sure  what  I  need  at  initial  stages.
 
 Budget  -  Have  planned  for  ~7k  (lesser  the  better).  Please  let  me  know  if  this  good  enough.  Im  ok  with  upto  ~20%  increase.
 
 Im  posting  this  well  ahead  of  time.  I  plan  to  get  the  tank  and  get  started  by  end  of  this  month  or  early  next.
 
 Thanks  in  advance  for  all  suggestions
 
 Deepak
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all Reply with quote

 All  answers  are  based  keeping  your  budget  in  mind
 
 
                                                 
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Tank  -  Have  two  options  a)  30"x15"x18"H  for  which  I  have  a  table  (Im  confident  that  it  will  support  the  weight)  b)  36"x18"x18"H  for  which  I  will  have  to  get  a  stand.  I  think  decision  will  depend  on  how  it  goes  with  Vitamin  M.                

 
 Go  in  for  option  1  as  that  would  eliminate  your  expense  for  the  stand,  but  if  Vitamin  M  permits  go  for  option  2,  considering  the  size,  the  price  diff  for  the  tanks  wont  be  much.
 
 
                                                 
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Plants  -  Not  yet  sure,  but  will  have  a  look  at  LFS  and  also  my  neighbour  who  grows  plants  in  cement  tanks.
 Planning  the  setup  without  CO2  initially.  Please  let  me  know  if  this  is  not  the  right  thing  to  do.  The  most  I  can  opt  for  now  is  DIY  CO2.                

 
 For  the  tank  this  size,  DIY  CO2  wont  cut  it,  In  such  a  case  would  suggest  go  with  the  DIY  temporarily  and  go  for  low  requirement  plants.  Browse  through  forums  you  will  get  a  good  idea  of  such  plants.  Later  when  yo  u  can  go  in  for  Pressurized  Co2.
 
 
                                                 
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Fish  -  
 In  terms  of  fish,  is  it  possible  for  a  beginner  to  start  with  all  native  species?  I  dont  have  much  of  any  liking  for  guppies,  golds  and  such.
 If  members  can  suggest  some  native  species  which  are  hardy  and  easy  to  get,  that  would  be  of  great  help.  
 For  now,  have  zebra  danios  in  my  list..                

 
 Zebra  danios  are  fine,  my  personal  preference  is  schooling  fish  for  planted  aquariams  like  Tetras....but  this  is  totally  upto  you.  Some  Varieties  of  natives  are  difficult  to  maintain,  usually  they  are  kept  in  a  species  only  setup,  but  then  i  am  not  an  expert  on  Native  Fish  so  dont  want  to  give  any  innacurate  information.
 
 
                                                 
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Filter  -
 Thinking  of  internal  filter  to  start  with.  Suggestions  would  definitely  help  me  here.  I  see  that  there  are  members  who  also  run  related  businesses,  would  be  great  if  they  can  PM  me  quotes/suggestions...                

 
 For  a  tank  this  size  External  Filters  are  the  Best,  on  a  Budget  go  in  for  a  Powerful  Internal  Filter  or  HOB.
 
 
                                                 
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Lights  -
 Have  to  still  go  through  this  part.  T8s  T5s  or  simpler  ones....  Suggestions  are  welcome,  but  still  havent  done  my  homework  here.                

 
 T5  HO  will  be  heavy  on  the  pocket,  go  in  for  T8  or  PLL.
 
 
                                                 
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Bogwood/driftwood  -
 Have  couple  of  old  branches  which  were  cut  from  mango/jackfruit  tree.  Not  sure  if  they  are  good  for  the  purpose.  Will  post  with  pictures  in  the  proper  section  over  the  weekend.  Have  put  them  in  water  for  now  and  one  has  already  sunk..                

 
 Pictures  woul  help  fo  giving  a  reply.
 
 
                                                 
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Others  like  -  heater,  test  strips  etc
 Please  suggest  me  on  this  part.  Im  not  sure  what  I  need  at  initial  stages...                

 
 In  my  opinion  No,  unless  you  have  drastic  parameter  changes  that  happen  with  respect  to  weather  or  water.
 
 You  have  missed  one  imp  thing,  thats  the  substrate,  on  a  budget  go  in  for  a  laterite  base  topped  with  resgular  sand.  Browse  the  forums  you  will  get  plenty  of  info  on  this.
 
 
                                                 
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Budget  -  Have  planned  for  ~7k  (lesser  the  better).  Please  let  me  know  if  this  good  enough.  Im  ok  with  upto  ~20%  increase....                

 
 As  per  what  i  have  said  your  budget  should  be  good  enough
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all - (edit) with some queries Reply with quote

 HI  Deepak,
 
 Why  dont  you  come  to  BAngalore,  meet  few  hobbyiest  and  take  a  call  on  how  to  set  your  tank  with  limited  budget.  You  could  get  a  lot  of  plants  with  the  circle  than  trying  to  buy  the  same.  To  begin  with,  you  are  most  welcome  to  visit  my  place  for  any  help  and  it  would  be  nice  to  meet  you  too.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all - (edit) with some queries Reply with quote

 @Seetharam  -  Thanks  a  lot  for  your  patient  reply.
 Noted  the  CO2  part.  Will  talk  to  my  plant  source(my  neighbour)  regarding  plants  &  substrate.
 
 Fishes  -  ya,  have  to  see  what  the  native  experts  say  on  this  part.  I  definitely  want  to  concentrate  on  natives  in  future,  but  not  sure  if  I  can  begin  with  total  natives.  Thats  why  I  put  this  here.
 
 Filter  -
 ok,  have  to  see  what  can  be  had  for  the  budget.
 
 Lights  -
 Thanks,  will  read  more  about  lights  this  weekend.
 
 @Surya  -
 Thanks  a  lot.  Will  try  to  make  it  to  Bangalore  one  of  the  weekends  this  month.  Will  PM  you  once  I  workout  the  date.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all - (edit) with some queries Reply with quote

 Zebra  danios  are  a  great  choice  for  that  tank.  About  a  dozen  of  them  and  6  Puntius  vittatus  should  make  for  a  nice  display.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: Hi all - (edit) with some queries Reply with quote

 Thanks  Rahul.  Will  add  to  my  list  -  how  about  their  availability  in  LFS?
 
 One  of  the  other  I  liked  is  Devario  devario  (sind/bengal  danio)  any  information  on  these?
 
 And  thought  some  of  the  bottom  dwellers  might  be  good  candidates.  Could  anyone  please  suggest.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Hi all - (edit) with some queries Reply with quote

 P.  vittatus  should  be  available  from  some  of  the  Bangalore  guys.  This  fish  will  also  take  care  of  your  bottom  dwelling  duties.  
 
 D.  devario  is  a  good  choice,  if  you  can  find  them.
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