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madhu_ulysses
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| My assumption is, rather than higher protiens, the type of amino-acids present in tubifex worms may be different from others. So possibly those type of amino acids and lipids would have been a reason behind mis shape. I've fed many central american cichlids with tubifex worms Rahul and haven't seen any deformity in other cichlids. Not sure why it brings out adverse effects in discus alone. I've also lost a couple of my Blood-fin tetras after feeding live tubifex worms due to bloat or might be over eating. Would be better if an expert on fish nutrition throws more light on it. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: |
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I do not think that one report can be considered conclusive evidence...oh well, we live and learn  |
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madhu_ulysses
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah! Live and Learn by Trial and Error! |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Guys I think we should rename this thread... no one is ever going to find this info on tubifex worms when they search for it.
Or we start another thread. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll vote for Changing the Thread Name |
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Madan
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I have changed the thread name here!
In future if there is an inappropriately named thread please let it taper off after the initial bit of answers, and continue discussions on a new appropriately named thread. |
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farm is place were fish are breeded and they grow the best verity of fishs as parent one. these farms are small in area, when compared to ponds. Contain medium to large cement tanks to keep the fishs.They keep the best verity of the fish's to produce good fries.
From farms, pond peoples buy thousands of fries as old as 2week (aprox.) and grow them in huge pits.
in ponds fishes are feed with rice pridgge, and some other foods that promot growth of the fish. They just grow huge number of fish to the desired size (sizes in which v get fish in the aquarium shop.) and sell them to the the aquarium shops.
Best breed of the fish fries are blocked in farms to replace the current parent as they grow old.
These old parent fishes are sold off to the pond, or directly to aquarium shops.
ponds consist of huge ground digged, polythene sheet lined pits, in wich they gorw the fishes. pond people gendrally dont breed fish.
In farms, fish have the maximum color; but in ponds the fish lose the color. |
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Madan
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pandian,
The fish farms I have seen are more than 40 acres in size and they have many ponds in them with the polyethylene sheets you mention and lots of cement tanks.
They grow and breed large fish like Arrawana and Koi in the ponds.
The cement tanks house smaller fish.
The ponds and cement tanks are in the same farm.
The fry are removed from the cement tanks and ponds and kept in glass aquariums initially. After culling them and grading them the good ones are moved to different cement grow out tanks where they are grown segregated as per their quality.
The fry are grown in these cement tanks and then sold to aquarium shops.
When the parents get a bit old they too are sold off to aquarium shops and new breeding stock is used.
Discus breeding farms do not use cement tanks or ponds only glass aquariums.
Now if your definition of a pond and farm is something else please clear it up for us. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Pandian, probably you should start a new thread called "Difference between farms, ponds and aquarium shops" |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps this thread could be renamed "tubifex worms", instead of "tubifex worms are bad worms"  : |
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Perhaps this thread could be renamed "tubifex worms", instead of "tubifex worms are bad worms"
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Or Tubifex Debate, as we have posts which speak for the topic too. Not everyone is saying they are bad. |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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pandian,
The fish farms I have seen are more than 40 acres in size and they have many ponds in them with the polyethylene sheets you mention and lots of cement tanks.
They grow and breed large fish like Arrawana and Koi in the ponds.
The cement tanks house smaller fish.
The ponds and cement tanks are in the same farm.
The fry are removed from the cement tanks and ponds and kept in glass aquariums initially. After culling them and grading them the good ones are moved to different cement grow out tanks where they are grown segregated as per their quality.
The fry are grown in these cement tanks and then sold to aquarium shops.
When the parents get a bit old they too are sold off to aquarium shops and new breeding stock is used.
Discus breeding farms do not use cement tanks or ponds only glass aquariums.
Now if your definition of a pond and farm is something else please clear it up for us.
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fisrst i would like to thank u for sharing this information.
But i have not seen farms(breeding place) having pond and cement tank.
Actully i have seen gold, oscer, koi, angel, romraizer, fowerhorn breeding farms only.
i do nt know how the frams of arawana, discus. will be.
once again i like to thank u for sharing this information. |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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But worm are caught from bank(higly wet areas) of highly pollluted ie sewage mixed rivers. both blood worms and nice worms are caught from the above said places.  .
I have also seen it.  |
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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But worm are caught from bank(higly wet areas) of highly pollluted ie sewage mixed rivers. both blood worms and nice worms are caught from the above said places
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Yes, but not everywhere. I have collected bloodworms from ponds/ditches where there is no sewage. And in many parts of the world, they are cultured on farms. It is incorrect to label all such worms as bad...a better statement would be "worms collected from polluted sources are bad" |
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| The local source from which i get blood-worms is different from where tubifex are got. I haven't seen any bloodworm in ditches in my locality. The source is more important than the species of worm. Tubifex from a farm would be far more better than bloodworm in a sweage (if it is there). But i would say that anyday, tubifex would induce growth more than any other food. |
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