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 My  assumption  is,  rather  than  higher  protiens,  the  type  of  amino-acids  present  in  tubifex  worms  may  be  different  from  others.    So  possibly  those  type  of  amino  acids  and  lipids  would  have  been  a  reason  behind  mis  shape.    I've  fed  many  central  american  cichlids  with  tubifex  worms  Rahul  and  haven't    seen  any  deformity  in  other  cichlids.    Not  sure  why  it  brings  out  adverse  effects  in  discus  alone.    I've  also  lost  a  couple  of  my  Blood-fin  tetras  after  feeding  live  tubifex  worms  due  to  bloat  or  might  be  over  eating.    Would  be  better  if  an  expert  on  fish  nutrition  throws  more  light  on  it.
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 I  do  not  think  that  one  report  can  be  considered  conclusive  evidence...oh  well,  we  live  and  learn    Smile
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 Yeah!  Live  and  Learn  by  Trial  and  Error!
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 Guys  I  think  we  should  rename  this  thread...  no  one  is  ever  going  to  find  this  info  on  tubifex  worms  when  they  search  for  it.
 
 Or  we  start  another  thread.
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 I'll  vote  for  Changing  the  Thread  Name
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 I  have  changed  the  thread  name  here!
 
 In  future  if  there  is  an  inappropriately  named  thread  please  let  it  taper  off  after  the  initial  bit  of  answers,  and  continue  discussions  on  a  new  appropriately  named  thread.
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 farm  is  place  were  fish  are  breeded  and  they  grow  the  best  verity  of  fishs  as  parent  one.  these  farms  are  small  in  area,  when  compared  to  ponds.  Contain  medium  to  large  cement  tanks  to  keep  the  fishs.They  keep  the  best  verity  of  the  fish's  to  produce  good  fries.
 
 From  farms,  pond  peoples  buy  thousands  of  fries  as  old  as  2week  (aprox.)  and  grow  them  in  huge  pits.
 
 in  ponds  fishes  are  feed  with  rice  pridgge,  and  some  other  foods  that  promot  growth  of  the  fish.  They  just  grow  huge  number  of  fish  to  the  desired  size  (sizes  in  which  v  get  fish  in  the  aquarium  shop.)  and  sell  them  to  the  the  aquarium  shops.  
 
 Best  breed  of  the  fish  fries  are  blocked  in  farms  to  replace  the  current  parent  as  they  grow  old.
 
 These  old  parent  fishes  are  sold  off  to  the  pond,  or  directly  to  aquarium  shops.
 
 ponds  consist  of  huge  ground  digged,  polythene  sheet  lined  pits,  in  wich  they  gorw  the  fishes.  pond  people  gendrally  dont  breed  fish.
 In  farms,  fish  have  the  maximum  color;  but  in  ponds  the  fish  lose  the  color.
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 pandian,
 
 The  fish  farms  I  have  seen  are  more  than  40  acres  in  size  and  they  have  many  ponds  in  them  with  the  polyethylene  sheets  you  mention  and  lots  of  cement  tanks.
 
 They  grow  and  breed  large  fish  like  Arrawana  and  Koi  in  the  ponds.
 
 The  cement  tanks  house  smaller  fish.
 
 The  ponds  and  cement  tanks  are  in  the  same  farm.
 
 The  fry  are  removed  from  the  cement  tanks  and  ponds  and  kept  in  glass  aquariums  initially.  After  culling  them  and  grading  them  the  good  ones  are  moved  to  different  cement  grow  out  tanks  where  they  are  grown  segregated  as  per  their  quality.
 
 The  fry  are  grown  in  these  cement  tanks  and  then  sold  to  aquarium  shops.
 
 When  the  parents  get  a  bit  old  they  too  are  sold  off  to  aquarium  shops  and  new  breeding  stock  is  used.
 
 Discus  breeding  farms  do  not  use  cement  tanks  or  ponds  only  glass  aquariums.
 
 Now  if  your  definition  of  a  pond  and  farm  is  something  else  please  clear  it  up  for  us.


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 Pandian,  probably  you  should  start  a  new  thread  called  "Difference  between  farms,  ponds  and  aquarium  shops"
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 Perhaps  this  thread  could  be  renamed  "tubifex  worms",  instead  of  "tubifex  worms  are  bad  worms"  Confused:
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Perhaps  this  thread  could  be  renamed  "tubifex  worms",  instead  of  "tubifex  worms  are  bad  worms"                  

 
 Or  Tubifex  Debate,  as  we  have  posts  which  speak  for  the  topic  too.  Not  everyone  is  saying  they  are  bad.
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Madan  wrote:                
pandian,
 
 The  fish  farms  I  have  seen  are  more  than  40  acres  in  size  and  they  have  many  ponds  in  them  with  the  polyethylene  sheets  you  mention  and  lots  of  cement  tanks.
 
 They  grow  and  breed  large  fish  like  Arrawana  and  Koi  in  the  ponds.
 
 The  cement  tanks  house  smaller  fish.
 
 The  ponds  and  cement  tanks  are  in  the  same  farm.
 
 The  fry  are  removed  from  the  cement  tanks  and  ponds  and  kept  in  glass  aquariums  initially.  After  culling  them  and  grading  them  the  good  ones  are  moved  to  different  cement  grow  out  tanks  where  they  are  grown  segregated  as  per  their  quality.
 
 The  fry  are  grown  in  these  cement  tanks  and  then  sold  to  aquarium  shops.
 
 When  the  parents  get  a  bit  old  they  too  are  sold  off  to  aquarium  shops  and  new  breeding  stock  is  used.
 
 Discus  breeding  farms  do  not  use  cement  tanks  or  ponds  only  glass  aquariums.
 
 Now  if  your  definition  of  a  pond  and  farm  is  something  else  please  clear  it  up  for  us.                

 
 fisrst  i  would  like  to  thank  u  for  sharing  this  information.
 
 But  i  have  not  seen  farms(breeding  place)  having  pond  and  cement  tank.
 
 Actully  i  have  seen  gold,  oscer,  koi,  angel,  romraizer,  fowerhorn  breeding  farms  only.
 
 i  do  nt  know  how  the  frams  of  arawana,  discus.  will  be.
 
 once  again  i  like  to  thank  u  for  sharing  this  information.    Smile
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 But  worm  are  caught  from  bank(higly  wet  areas)  of  highly  pollluted  ie  sewage  mixed  rivers.  both  blood  worms  and  nice  worms  are  caught  from  the  above  said  places.  Sad.  
 
 I  have  also  seen  it.  Shocked
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But  worm  are  caught  from  bank(higly  wet  areas)  of  highly  pollluted  ie  sewage  mixed  rivers.  both  blood  worms  and  nice  worms  are  caught  from  the  above  said  places                

 
 Yes,  but  not  everywhere.  I  have  collected  bloodworms  from  ponds/ditches  where  there  is  no  sewage.  And  in  many  parts  of  the  world,  they  are  cultured  on  farms.  It  is  incorrect  to  label  all  such  worms  as  bad...a  better  statement  would  be  "worms  collected  from  polluted  sources  are  bad"    Smile
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 The  local  source  from  which  i  get  blood-worms  is  different  from  where  tubifex  are  got.    I  haven't  seen  any  bloodworm  in  ditches  in  my  locality.    The  source  is  more  important  than  the  species  of  worm.    Tubifex  from  a  farm  would  be  far  more  better  than  bloodworm  in  a  sweage  (if  it  is  there).    But  i  would  say  that  anyday,  tubifex  would  induce  growth  more  than  any  other  food.
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