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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Attempt at a Planted Tank, Stripping down thoughts Reply with quote

 Hi
 I  am  new  to  tanks,  planted  or  otherwise.  This  is  my  second  tank  and  the  first  serious  attempt  at  a  planted  tank.  The  tank  was  setup  on  the  28th  of  September.  That  makes  it  roughly  4  weeks  old  now.
 
 Dimensions  -  3  X  1.5  X  1.5  feet  {190  Liters  /  50  Gallons}
 
 Substrate  -  2cm  Laterite  +  3cm  Coarse  River  Sand  {measurements  are  approximate}
 
 Filter  –  Eheim  2217
 
 Lighting  –  4  X  36  Watts  PLL  right  now,  the  lamps  are  housed  in  two  Household  light  fittings.  I  have  the  provision  to  add  two  more  lamps  to  take  it  up  to  216  Watts  total.  Not  planning  for  that  till  I  get  the  pressurized  CO2
 
 CO2  –  DIY  with  three  2  Liter  bottles  connected  in  Parallel,  diffused  through  the  sponge  of  a  power  filter.  
 
 Décor  –  Two  pieces  of  wood,  picked  up  from  the  LFS.
 
 Temperature  –  Ranges  from  28-29.5  C,  changes  with  the  lighting  and  time  of  the  day.  The  temperatures  were  higher  initially,  but  came  down  by  a  degree  with  the  help  of  two  CPU  fans
 
 Parameters  –  Not  tested
 
 Dosing  -  Started  on  20th  of  October,  Macros  and  Micros.  Under  dosing  now  for  fear  of  algae

 
 
 
 
 Plants
 
 Fore  Ground
 Echinodorus  Tenellus
 Eleocharis  Parvula
 
 Mid  Ground
 
 Blyxa  Japonica
 Crypt  Wenditi  Green
 Cryptocoryne  Parva
 Cryptocoryne  ?  Sp
 Hygrophila  Corymbosa  Compacta
 Alternanthera  Reineckii
 Bacopa  Monnieri
 Bacopa  Caroloniana
 
 Back  Ground
 Heteranthera  Zosterifolia
 Ammannia  ?Senegalensis
 Rotala  Macrandra
 Nesaea  Pedicellata  Var  Red
 Myriophyllum  Aquaticum  
 Rotala  Wallichi
 Aponogeton  Crispus
 Aponogeton  Boivinianus
 
 Epiphytes  –  On  the  Wood
 Microsorum  Pteropus
 Microsorum  Pteropus  'Windelov’
 Anubias  Barteri
 Anubias  Cofeefolia
 Anubia  Nana  Var  Gold
 Taxiphyllum  barbieri
 
 Live  Stock
 
 Xephophorus  Helleri  3  No
 Trigonostigma  heteromorpha  8  No
 Poecilia  latipinna  3  No
 Corydoras  Paleatus  4  No
 Otocinclus  Affinis  4  No
 A  few  wood  shrimps  -  there  were  ten  when  I  put  them  in.  Now  I  can  see  one  or  at  the  most  two  and  that  too  only  once  in  a  while.  
 
 The  bad  things  as  I  see  now  are
 1. The  Laterite  layer  can  be  seen  from  the  front  of  the  tank,  that  is  unsightly
 2. No  pressurized  CO2,  With  this  amount  of  light  I  am  sure  that  I  will  have  an  Algae  factory  soon  
 3. ?  Overcrowded  with  plants
 4. The  expected  lifespan  of  this  tank  is  only  6-9  months  since  I  have  to  shift  houses  next  year.  But  that’s  Okay  since  I  plan  to  strip  it  down  and  do  another  one  with  the  experience  that  I  gain  from  this.
 
 Please  give  your  criticisms,  criticisms,  criticisms  and  comments.  I  would  love  to  have  the  comments,  but  it  will  be  the  criticisms  that  help  me  improve.
 I  am  open  to  suggestions  on  fishes.  My  initial  plan  was  to  add  a  few  more  Harlequins  and  a  school  of  Cardinals.  The  Swords  and  the  Molly  will  have  to  stay  since  my  son  has  adopted  them  as  his  young  siblings   Chuckle  
 
 Unni


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 The  scaping  is  not  organized.  It  is  looking  alot  jungle.  The  experts  can  guide  you  regarding  this.  With  your's  volume,  I  dont  think  DIY  CO2  is  recommendable.  Better  go  for  pressurised  unit.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Very  nice...Once  the  plants  grow  it  would  look  really  nice!
 
 "The  Laterite  layer  can  be  seen  from  the  front  of  the  tank,  that  is  unsightly  "
 
 This  could  have  been  avoided  by  putting  a  small  layer  of  gravel  along  the  glass,  so  that  if  anyone  sees  from  the  front  it  looks  like  there  is  only  one  type  of  gravel...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 @Uni...  as  a  planted  tank  started  you  did  a  nice  job.  And  I  think,  you  yourself  have  discovered  what  you  need  most  in  the  tank.  That  is  More  light  and  a  steady  CO2  source.  So  go  for  a  pressurized  setup  with  some  more  light.  If  possible  try  out  T5  Hos  instead  of  PLLs.  And  don't  worry  about  algae,  as  that  is  also  part  of  the  game.  So  make  this  setup  as  an  repulsive  setup  and  try  out  different  things  to  learn  fast.  
 
 Wish  you  all  the  best.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Nice  setup  unni,and  definitely  good  for  a  first  attempt!  Thumb Up  
 And  as  Vyas  said,it  will  look  good  once  the  plants  grow...  Good  luck  for  combating  algae  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Unni,
             A  good  start,  You  have  started  with  a  wide  variety  of  plants.  The  background  looks  a  bit  cluttered,  did  you  get  the  plants  tall  or  did  they  grow  in  the  past  month?
 As  ar  as  the  substrate  not  looking  good  you  can  have  a  black  sticker  running  the  length  of  the  aquarium  on  the  front  side.  My  tanks  have  them  on  all  theree  sides  3"  from  the  bottom  and  2"  from  top.  It's  a  pity  that  you  will  have  to  take  it  down  so  early,  your  tank  will  be  in  its  prime  after  6  months.  Thats  ging  to  be  a  tough  one  to  tear  it  down.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Hi  Unni,
 nice  start  Thumb Up  
 agree  with  Tirtha  da.....you  can  go  for  T5  Ho  tubes  as  your  tank  is  3ft,you  can  easily  install  the  lights.
 best  of  luck.
 keep  us  updating  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Thumb Up  
 
 Great  start.  Use  Pressurized  CO2  and  notice  the  difference  immediately.
 
 I  like  the  scaping  which  looks  natural  and  soothing  to  eyes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Hi  Unni,
 
 Personal  i  think  that  this  is  the  best  newbie  setup  i  have  seen  in  a  long  time.Very  neat  ,  Once  the  plants  grow  in  the  tank  will  look  great,  Congrats  again  for  your  first  attempt  this  defiantly  is  a  cool  looking  tank,  and  looks  like  you  have  been  doing  this  for  awhile.  Thumb Up  
 

 Now  for  The  bad  things  as  you  see  now  are
 
 1.  The  Latrite  layer  can  be  seen  from  the  front  of  the  tank,  that  is  unsightly
 
 True  it  does  look  unsightly,  you  could  put  a  black  sticker  there  to  cover  the  area,  or  the  tougher  thing  to  do  would  be  is  to  reduce  the  water  as  low  as  possible,  use  like  a  scraper/  credit  card,  move  the  soil  away  form  the  glass  a  little  and  add  washed  gravel,  it  could  be  complicated  and  messy  if  not  done  correctly.
 
 2.  No  pressurized  CO2,  With  this  amount  of  light  I  am  sure  that  I  will  have  an  Algae  factory  soon
 
 What  you  did  not  realize  is  that  with  the  amount  of  plant  you  have  absorbing  the  nutrients  you  should  not  have  algae.  also  do  as  many  water  changes  possible,  once  every  2  days  and  you  will  not  need  CO2,  if  you  can  work  something,  where  you  have  a  constant  water  flow  One  drop  in  and  One  drop  out,  even  better.   
 
 3.  ?  Overcrowded  with  plants
 
 First  rule  of  a  planted  tank,  PLANT  HEAVILY.  What  you  have  done  is  the  right  way  to  go.  Every  time  you  trim  or  cut  a  stem  replant  as  many  as  you  can,  it  will  keep  the  plant  bushy  and  the  tank  will  look  healthy.
 

 4.  The  expected  lifespan  of  this  tank  is  only  6-9  months  since  I  have  to  shift  houses  next  year.  
 
 The  aquarium  can  be  shifted  to  you  location  with  no  problem,  i  move  a  couple  of  months  ago  and  shifted  my  tanks  with  out  a  problem,
 
 Congrats  again.  Good  looking  tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 Good  tank  mate.  A  black  background  will  look  excellent  for  this  setup.
 
 Also  a  pressurised  CO2  setup  will  fetch  you  better  results.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 unni,
 This  is  an  excellent  work  ......  I  also  planning  same  sized  cichlid  tank
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 @  Manu
 Thanks  for  your  observations.
 You  got  it  right.  The  whole  idea  is  to  make  it  look  like  a  jungle.  You  can  see  that  I  haven't  used  the  term  scape  anywhere  in  the  post.  I  will  leave  the  art  to  the  artists   Chuckle  
 
 @  Vyas
 Thank  You.  Had  read  about  that  in  one  of  Suraj's  post  on  his  tank,  but  did  not  grasp  the  concept  at  that  time.
 
 @Tirtha
 Thank  you.  Moving  to  T5HO  has  two  problems.  Local  availability,  and  the  investment  that  I  have  made  on  the  fittings  for  PLL  Sad
 The  view  that  algae  are  part  of  the  game  is  reassuring.  Especially  when  someone  with  your  experience  says  that.
 
 @Shubhankar
 Thank  You
 
 @  Muthu
 Thank  You.  Will  try  out  the  stickers
 
 @Shameek  @Abhishek
 Thank  You
 
 @  Mayur
 Thank  You.  Coming  from  you  that  means  a  lot  to  me.
 You  are  of  course  aware  that  you  have  supplied  the  foreground  ?  Smile
 I  tried  to  shift  the  laterite  away  from  the  glass,  but  the  result  was  a  huge  mushroom  cloud  of  Laterite  dust.  SO  had  to  abandon  that.  I  will  stick  to  the  sticker  idea  for  now.
 Now,  no  CO2?  I  just  love  that  idea.
 
 @Avadhoot  and  Amit
 Thank  you


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 @Muthu
 Here  is  a  picture  taken  at  24  hours  after  planting  for  comparison

 
 
 
 The  Ammania  and  the  Myriophyllum  Aquaticum  were  reinforced  with  6  stems  each  after  this  picture  was  taken.  Rest  of  the  plants  grew  to  the  current  size.
 
 The  foreground  plants  seem  to  take  forever  to  grow  Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Attempt at a Planted Tank Neutral Reply with quote

 
 I  think  the  Aponogeton  is  going  to  flower  Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: Attempt at a Planted Tank Smile Pictures Updated on 29 Oct 08 Reply with quote

 Hi
 Just  a  few  pictures  that  I  managed  to  click  over  the  past  month.  I  liked  them,  hope  you  will  too
 
 Cory  on  Cucumber  :)
 
 
 
 Shrimp  on  Moss
 
 
 
 Oto  on  Ammannia
 
 
 
 
 Myriophyllum  Aquaticum  Pearling
 
 
 
 Crypt  Leaf  Pearling.  This  stream  of  bubbles  appeared  only  for  few  days  after  planting.  It  doesn't  do  this  anymore
 
 
 
 Myaca  Fluviatilis
 
 
 
 Rotala  Wallichi
 
 
 
 A  Corner  View
 
 
 
 Thanks  for  looking  Neutral.  May  the  aquarium  Gods  smile  upon  thee  Smile
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