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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 Hey  Friends  !
 
 I  hope  all  is  well  !
 
 Just  wanted  to  request  you  guys  to  kindly  guide  me  a  little  here  -  Is  it  possible  (and  feasible)  to  use  a  UPS  for  my  Aquarium  ?  That  is  for  the  Eheim  2217  and  for  the  Aeriators  ?  If  yes,  then  is  thee  anything  specific  to  buy  ?
 
 Kindly  guide  me  regarding  this  as  I'm  worried  about  the  daily  3  Hour  power-cut  here...
 
 Thanks  a  lot  !
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 A  computer  UPS  won't  help  you  much.  I  would  suggest  you  to  go  for  a  full  house  powerback  up.  I  am  using  inverter  for  the  power  back  up  and  it's  running  all  the  equipements  including  2  200watt  heaters.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 Hi  Kush
 Madan  and  Deepak  Brid  both  suggested  stabilizers  over  UPS  in  a  discussion  on  this  thread
 Hope  this  helps
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 Hey  Kush,
 
 I  have  an  inverter  for  my  two  6  ft  aquariums  which  run,  6  tubes,  3  -  external  filters,  1  -  eheim  external  pump,  3  -  fans,  1  -  300  ltr  per  hour  power  head.   I  can  run  all  these  for  5  hours  incase  the  power  shuts  down.  .
 
 Hope  this  helps!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 Yeah  I  have  my  2217,  Liberty  200,  SOBO  internal  Filter  and  one  100W  heater  running  on  my  home  inverter.  However  I  also  have  a  Jager  300W  heater  that  I  havent  connected  to  the  inverter  because  the  inverter  may  overload  from  other  appliances..  The  100W  will  keep  the  temp  from  falling  drastically.  Anyways  power-cuts  these  days  dont  last  for  more  than  30  mins  in  my  part  of  town.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 We  have  centralised  power  backup  for  upto  500W  in  our  society.  We  operate  all  the  pumps/  airpumps  etc.  for  my  three  aquariums  on  it.  2  x  100W  heaters  are  also  running  on  it.  I  have  only  worry  about  the  Chiller  running  during  the  next  summer.  
 
 The  centralised  power  backup  or  inverter  may  be  a  solution.  Computer  UPS  will  not  be  of  much  use  because  of  its  limited  back-up  time.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Kush
 Madan  and  Deepak  Brid  both  suggested  stabilizers  over  UPS  in  a  discussion  on  this  thread
 Hope  this  helps
               

 
 @Unninga,  buddy  stabilizer  and  UPS  are  completely  different  thing.  First  one  used  to  avoid  voltage  flactuation  where  as  the  second  one  helps  to  give  powerbackup  at  the  time  of  loadshading.  UPS  what  we  used  for  computers  is  having  a  very  small  battery  and  limited  backup.  So  Inverter  is  best  if  you  want  to  give  a  longer  backup  to   multiple  tanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 Actually  if  you  have  a  UPS  with  large  enough  battery  backup  (time  wise)  and  with  a  high  enough  wattage  it  is  a  better  solution  than  an  inverter  as  the  voltage   would  be  more  stable.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 Dear  Kush
 Tirthankar  is  absolutely  right  you  can  opt  for  6-8KW  inverter  to  run  all  your  aquarium  gadgets  smoothly.Su  Kam,  Swastic,  Micro,  Base,   Enertec  and  manymore  brands  avilable  in  India.  Price  range  varies  from  15K-  20k
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

                                                   
Kaushik  wrote  (View  Post):                
Dear  Kush
 Tirthankar  is  absolutely  right  you  can  opt  for  6-8KW  inverter  to  run  all  your  aquarium  gadgets  smoothly.Su  Kam,  Swastic,  Micro,  Base,   Enertec  and  manymore  brands  avilable  in  India.  Price  range  varies  from  15K-  20k
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 Not  that  much.  Su  Kam  8KW  inverter  with  battery  will  cost  you  11-13K.
 
 
                                                 
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 UPS  with  large  enough  battery  backup  (time  wise)  and  with  a  high  enough  wattage  it  is  a  better  solution  than  an  inverter  as  the  voltage   would  be  more  stable.
                 

 
 Then  the  UPS  will  become  a  SignCurve  Inverter.   Smile


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: UPS for an Aquarium ? Reply with quote

 What  is  your  budget?  Is  it  only  the  2217  and  the  aerators  that  need  backup?
 
 If  these  are  the  only  equipment,  you  can  go  for  a  small  inverter/UPS  (200  VA  and  suitable  battery  to  last  3hr).
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 Then  the  UPS  will  become  a  SignCurve  Inverter.   Smile                

 
 This  confuses  me.
 Doesnt  a  normal  inverter  output  a  sine  curve  (AC)  ?
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 Then  the  UPS  will  become  a  SignCurve  Inverter.   Smile                

 
 This  confuses  me.
 Doesnt  a  normal  inverter  output  a  sine  curve  (AC)  ?                

 
 No...  not  all  the  inverters  are  giving  a  proper  continuous  Sign  Curve.  Thats  why  all  the  inverter  company  came  up  with  special  models  which  will  provide  you  Sign  curve  output  all  the  way,  to  protect  your  electronics  equipments.
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 @Unninga,  buddy  stabilizer  and  UPS  are  completely  different  thing.  First  one  used  to  avoid  voltage  flactuation  where  as  the  second  one  helps  to  give  powerbackup  at  the  time  of  loadshading.  UPS  what  we  used  for  computers  is  having  a  very  small  battery  and  limited  backup.  So  Inverter  is  best  if  you  want  to  give  a  longer  backup  to   multiple  tanks.                

 
 Thirtha
 I  am  aware  that  a  UPS  and  stabilizer  are  different.
 In  the  post  that  I  had  quoted  Madan  and  Deepak  seemed  to  suggest  that  voltage  fluctuations  and  subsequent  damage  to  equipment  might  be  of  more  concern  than  power  cuts.
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Hey  Friends  !
 
 I  hope  all  is  well  !
 
 Just  wanted  to  request  you  guys  to  kindly  guide  me  a  little  here  -  Is  it  possible  (and  feasible)  to  use  a  UPS  for  my  Aquarium  ?  That  is  for  the  Eheim  2217  and  for  the  Aeriators  ?  If  yes,  then  is  thee  anything  specific  to  buy  ?
 
 Kindly  guide  me  regarding  this  as  I'm  worried  about  the  daily  3  Hour  power-cut  here...
 
 Thanks  a  lot  !
 Regards  and  Care
 Kush                

 
 Hi  Kush,
 
 You  need  to  get  an  inverter  and  a  UPS.  The  capacity  of  the  inverter  depends  on  whether  you  want  to  put  your  aquariums  only  or  other  instruments  in  the  house.  A  rough  calculation  is  a  factor  of  .8  Thus  a  800KV  inverter  will  provide  nearly  640W.  You  can  add  up  the  wattage  of  your  instruments  and  arrive  at  the  figure.
 
 You  also  need  a  UPS  as  the  switchover  even  though  seems  instant  (in  milliseconds,  but  vary  across  models)  is  not  enough  for  the  uninterrupted  supply  for  the  instrument.  SO  every  time  power  goes  all  your  equipment  will  switch  off  and  on  even  if  for  an  instant.  It  will  be  more  prominent  as  the  battery  wears  off.
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