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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Its  really  tragic  to  see  the  beloved  creatures   which  were  merrily   swimming  about  the  previous  night  and  see  them  floating   in  the  morning.The  needle  valves  should  not  be  adjusted  frequently,  because  after  any  adjustments  it  (tank)  needs  close  monitoring  at  least  for  some  hours.Can  you  please  provide  the  details  of  the  valve  which  you  were  using  so  that  preventive  action  can  be  taken  if  any  of  the  members  are  using  the  same.
 
 Most  of  the  valves  found  in  the  market  are  meant  for  Industrial  use  and  also  quality  differs  ,  so  one  has  to  exercise  caution  while  purchasing  one,  keeping  quality  in  mind.
 
 In  Pneumatics  and  Hydraulics  we  do  not  use  the  term  "needle  valve"  but  Flow  Control  Valve/Throttle  Valve.These  valves  primarily  restrict  the  flow  of  air  or  oil.These  valves  are  provided  with  springloaded  knobs  for  precission  adjustments.
 
 This  is  for  general  information  only.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Sorry  to  hear  that.  I  have  turned  low-tech  on  both  my  display  tanks  for  similar  reasons.  Ok  for  me  to  not  be  able  to  keep  certain  plants  but  I  am  saving  a  lot  in  terms  of  electricity  and  maintenance  effort.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

                                                   
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Sorry  to  hear  that.  I  have  turned  low-tech  on  both  my  display  tanks  for  similar  reasons.  Ok  for  me  to  not  be  able  to  keep  certain  plants  but  I  am  saving  a  lot  in  terms  of  electricity  and  maintenance  effort.                

 
 I  am  amazed  to  see  so  many  hobbyists  suffering  from  excess,  improper  CO2  injection  and  yes  it  has  put  me  off  from  CO2  for  the  time  being.  I  prefer  some  expert  to  put  in  some  basics  of  SAFE  addition  and  *proper*  monitoring  of  CO2  in  a  high  tech  tank.  I  have  gone  low  tech  too  without  CO2  addition  but  very  frequent  water  change  and  micro  addition  based  on  deficiency  signs.  I  will  go  for  pressurized  units  only  after  I  am  in  position  to  understand  fully  and  implement  maximum  safety  measures  such  as  the  ones  outlined  below:
 
 Description  at  http://www.wcf.com/co2iron/faq.html
 Instruments  and  indicators  like  Milwaukee  SMS  122  pH/CO2  Controller  and  Liquid  CO2  indicator
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Sorry  to  hear  about  the  loss  Dev.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Sorry  to  hear  that  Dev.  Don't  give  up.  It's  just  the  part  of  the  game.  Last  month  I  have  lost  10  Hengeli  in  my  Nano  for  the  same  reason.   Thumb Down
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 This  is  exactly  like  addition  of  fish  without  the  cycling  of  the  aquarium.  
 
 Most  new  hobbyists  avoid  it  and  complain  of  fish  deaths.  
 
 Enough  has  been  written  on  the  subject  of  Co2  injection  and  on  the  subject  of  recycling  an  aquarium.
 
 There  is  nothing  much  more  we  can  do  but  avoiding  the  use  of  pressurized  Co2  is  just  not  the  solution.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Tragic,  Sorry  to  hear  about  your  loss,Debarghya.
 
 I  know  Trevor  had  his  same  Indian  CO2  setup  running  non  stop  since  8-10  years  without  any  problem.  So  going  off  CO2  is  not  an  option.
 
 Lets  call  it  an  learning  experience  and  go  ahead!
 
 Regards,
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Agree  with  Trevor  and  Nayak  completely,  I  would  suggest  doing  a  fair  bit  of  reading  and  understanding  of  the  components  and  functionality  of  the  various  components  that  go  into  the  CO2  system  and  then  take  a  call  on  the  type  of  system  that  you  will  go  in  for  based  on  individual  preference  and  comfort  levels  rather  than  just  give  up  on  using  CO2  completely.
 
 Just  as  an  example:  I  would  recommend  using  an  aerator  at  night  rather  than  relying  on  a  solenoid  to  regulate  the  co2  at  night.  
 
 Reason:  An  airpump  is  more  reliable  than  a  solenoid  IMO
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Debarghya  da
 sad  news.....
 but  dont  give  up
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 well  sorry  to  hear  that  even  i  lost  6  big  angels  and  6  tetras  last  month   Sad  
    
 however  i  have  now  got  two  needle  valves  on  the  co2  tubing  one  near  the  cylinder  and  one  near  the  tank,  for  the  time  being  i  shut  the  needle  valve  near  the  cylinder  and  thus  cut  the  co2  going  in  the  tank  and  in  the  morning  as  i  have  perset  needle  valve  near  the  tank  all  i  do  is  unscrew  the  needle  valve  near  the  tank  and  let  the  co2  in  
 
 using  two  valves  in  the  same  line  gives  me  the  freedom  and  mantains  an  accurate  flow  rate  inspite  of  regular  switch  off  and  on   Smile  
 
 this  is  just  a  temp  arrangement  till  such  time  i  get  my  hands  on  a  solenoid  valve  and  timer  after  which  i  intend  to  put  the  lights,  CO2  solenoid  and  the  pump  that  drives  my  external  co2  reactor  on  the  timer  and  hence  there  would  not  be  any  risk  of  such  a  situation   Smile  
 
 would  also  suggest  you  use  a  drop  checker  incase  you  have  not  been  doing  so  it  is  the  simplest  way   dictate  the  co2  in  your  tank.  
 
 and  yes  .....  NEVER  GIVE  UP   Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Hi,
       It  happened  to  me  also  about  a  month  back,  i  lost  about  18  discus,  6  cardinals  in  a  days  time.  it  was  pathetic  time  for  me  for  days  to  recover  that  shock...,.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Hi  Debarghya,
 
 I  can  understand  how  you  feel  right  now.  I'm  still  not  recovered  from  my  loss.  Crying or Very sad   
 
 But  never  give  up  because  I'm  sure  you  can  live  without..  
 
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 Thanks  all  of  you,  for  the  kind  and  sympathetic  words...  Learning  your  experiences  have  certainly  boosted  my  morals  in  continuing  with  fish  keeping  to  a  great  extent.   Thumb Up  
 
 It  is  my  2nd  anniversary  today,  and  my  wife  wants  to  gift  me  as  many  fishes  as  I  want...thats  exactly  what  she  said  yesterday.  "Let's  see  how  many  fishes  you  want  no  matter  how  much  they  cost".  Surprised  
   In  spite  of  the  trance  that  I  was  in,  I  could  not  help  but  feel  astonishment  at  her  reaction.  So,  she  accompanied  me  to  the  local  LFS  and  ordered  15  pair  of  Neon  Tetra  for  the  tank.  I  want  to  keep  single  species  fishes  now.  
 
 Now  the  shop  is  selling  the  fishes  for  50  rupees  a  pair.  Would  like  to  know  if  that  is  a  decent  cost  to  pay.  If  you  think  its  a  hefty  price,  then  I  will  cancel  my  orders.  Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: All of my fishes died yesterday Reply with quote

 Deb  you  sure  is  one  lucky  Guy  !  Chuckle  
 
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 It  is  my  2nd  anniversary  today,  and  my  wife  wants  to  gift  me  as  many  fishes  as  I  want...thats  exactly  what  she  said  yesterday.  "Let's  see  how  many  fishes  you  want  no  matter  how  much  they  cost".  Surprised  
   In  spite  of  the  trance  that  I  was  in,  I  could  not  help  but  feel  astonishment  at  her  reaction.  So,  she  accompanied  me  to  the  local  LFS  and  ordered  15  pair  of  Neon  Tetra  for  the  tank.  I  want  to  keep  single  species  fishes  now.  
                 

 
 WHAT!!  even  after  getting  that  kind  of  open  offer  from  your  better  half,  you  restricted  yourself  to  Neon  Tetras!!!!  Lucky  she  is.  I  would  have  ordered  5  pairs  of  Altum  from  SLS.  Aisa  mauka  bar  bar  nahi  ata......   Thumb Down
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