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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:17 am Post subject: wanted help in discus keeping Reply with quote

 hi,
 
 all  these  days  i  have  been  keeping  central  american  cichluds  and  arowanas  but  now  i  plan  to  keep  discus  so  i  would  like  to  clear  a  few  doubts  
 
 1.  is  it  absolutely  necessary  to  change  water  daily  or  can  it  be  done  once  in  3  days  or  4  days
 2.  do  i  need  to  treat  the  water  from  bwssb  for  chlorine.
 3.is  it  true  that  discus  is  very  delicate  and  needs  lot  of  attention.
 4.do  i  need  to  keep  a  bare  bottam  tank  
 
 thanks  in  advance
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 Yes,  IMO  to  keep  discus  at  best  all  these  have  to  be  done.    WC  max  can  be  done  every  alternate  day.    If  you  compromize  on  any  of  these,  your  discus  will  compromise  on  something  else.
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do  i  need  to  treat  the  water  from  bwssb  for  chlorine.  
                 

 
 Suhas  your  dad  might  be  the  right  person  to  answer  this  queiry.  :lol:
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 Hi,
 
 First  query:  Water  Changes  everyday  are  a  must...  especially  if  feeding  beef  heart.  Incidentally  not  feeding  beef  heart  is  the  worst  thing  u  can  do  to  discus.
 
 Second  query:  i  suggest  if  you  are  doing  more  than  40%  water  changes  a  day  (which  is  a  must)  ..  you  add  some  sodium  thyosulphate  a.k.a  hypo  and  eliminate  the  risk  of  losing  the  fish  to  chlorine.
 
 Third  query:  Attention  ..  yes  ..  a  tank  would  need  some  time  everyday..  2-3  feedings,  water  change.  If  these  are  regularly  done,  you  are  more  likely  not  to  face  any  problems.  DISCUS  ARE  NOT  AT  ALL  DELICATE  THEY  ARE  A  VERY  HARDY  SPECIES.
 
 Fourth  query:  its  better  to  keep  a  bare  bottom  tank  since  it  stays  cleaner  and  improves  the  growth.
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...not  feeding  beef  heart  is  the  worst  thing...                  

 
 Not  Really  and  I  disagree...on  the  fronts  that  I've  raised  Discus  feeding  on  Veggie  Recipes,  pellet  food  and  wafers...We  even  have  Mr.  Suresh  Babu  who  has  raised  all  his  Discus  by  feeding  only  Tetra  Bits...
 
 With  this,  I've  not  come  across  any  problems  relating  to  parasites...albeit,  the  growth  has  been  slow...to  attain  full  size,  they've  taken  about  16  months...
 
 BHM  is  recommended,  but  any  lean  meat  will  also  give  the  same  results...as  protien  content  is  high  in  animal  flesh...
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 i  thank  all  of  you  for  helping  me  out  in  this  regard  and  i  look  forward  to  have  a  wonderful  time  raising  discus
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 suhas,
 
 good  luck...
 
   Very Happy
 
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 thank  you  lance  and  i  suggest  that  u  can  also  keep  discus
 
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 suhas,
 
 i  know...  but  i  still  prefer  to  keep  the  fishes  i  currently  have...  not  discuss  crazy  yet...    Smile  
 
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 thats  nag's  view...  probably  he's  right  since  he's  experienced  it!!  but  i'd  still  not  feed  anything  else...  moreoever  with  my  setup  i'd  go  broke  soon  if  i  feed  them  tetra  bits  all  the  time!!
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 Suhas:
 
 Keep  the  stocking  levels  low.  Either  keep  a  few  fish  in  a  small  tank[3  X  1.5  X  1.5],  or  get  a  4  X  2  X  2,  if  you  want  to  keep  more.
 
 Daily  water  changes:
 
 NO,  you  surely  do  not  need  daily  water  changes  if  you  keep  your  tank  lightly  stocked  or  under  stocked.
 
 Treating  water:
 
 You  will  not  need  to  treat  water,  if  you  can  use  the  water  after  storing  it  for  at  least  48  hours.  I  dont  treat  my  water,  as  it  comes  in  to  my  sump.  I  pump  it  up  to  the  overhead  tank,  and  from  there  it  comes  to  a  water  holding  tank  in  my  back  yard.  I  use  it  from  there.  This  usually  gives  me  2  day  old  water.  Never  faced  a  problem  with  chlorine[touchwood],  even  when  the  water  that  came  was  full  of  chlorine.  You  can  store  water  in  a  barrel  or  small  tank  and  use  some  badaam  leaves,  and  aeration,  if  you  really  want  to  treat  water.  But  I  am  sure  its  NOT  necessary.
 
 
 Are  discus  delicate?
 
 NO,  discus  are  not  delicate.  Well  it  depends  mainly  from  where  you  get  them,  and  what  condition  they  are  in,  when  you  get  them.  If    you  buy  healthy  and  good  quality  discus  that  are  very  active,  abd  eating  well,  they  are  a  breeze  to  keep.
 
 Bare  setup?
 
 NO,  you  dont  NEED  to.  But  if  possible,  keep  it  bare,  because  its  much  easier  to  keep  it  cleaner.  If  you  want  to  keep  a  discus  tank  in  your  living  room,  a  bare  bottom  tank  will  look  ou  of  place.  If  its  going  to  be  in  your  fish  room,  you  can  surely  keep  it  bare.
 
 If  you  are  ok  with  a  bare  setup,  you  can  go  in  for  juveniles,  that  are  say  2.5  to  3  inch  size.  They  grow  well  too.  If  you  really  want  a  nice  aquascaped  tank,  you  should  go  in  for  slightly  bigger  discus,  that  are  ,  say,  4  to  4.5  inches.  They  are  hardier  at  that  age,  and  can  take  the  nitrates  better.
 
 What  size  tank  are  you  looking  at?  How  many  discus  do  you  plan  to  keep?
 
 IMO,  the  time,  and  other  resources  for  maintenance  spent  are  the  same  for  any  strain  of  discus,  except  for  wilds.  Take  a  look  at  all  the  strains  available.  Do  look  around  and  ask  to  see  all  the  discus  you  can.  Then  decide  on  a  good  strain.  Make  sure  you  are  surely  prepared,  and  have  the  time  and  resources  to  keep  discus.  Then  take  the  plunge.  I  can  surely  assure  you  this  is  a  very  rewarding  fish.  You  will  surely  enjoy  some  very  nice  memorable  moments  in  life,  if  you  keep  discus.  
 
 In  my  setup,  I  have  more  than  50  discus,  of  various  sizes  and  strains.  Right  from  the  humble  turquoise,  to  super  melons,  to  high  fin  high  body  blue  diamonds,  and  even  heckels  that  are  wild  caught.  I  NEVER  treat  my  water,  I  dont  do  daily  water  changes,  and  I  dont  think  discus  are  delicate.  I  do  keep  them  in  bare  tanks,  just  because  I  have  many  tanks  and  its  easier  to  keep  them  clean.
 
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 thank  you  neil  and  nitin  for  the  valuable  advice
 
 i  am  planing  to  keep  the  discus  in  a  4ft*1.5ft*1.5ft  tank  and  i  am  planing  to  start  with  6  discus.
 
 my  doubt  is  if  in  case  i  need  to  treat  water  for  chlorine  and  i  add  sodium  thiosulphate  which  is  a  dechlorinater  does  it  leave  any  residues  which  is  harmful  for  the  fish
 
 thanking  you  in  advance
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 None!
 Having  said  that,  I  use  HYPO  crystals  at  the  ratio  of  1  crystal  per  50lts  of  water..
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 thank  you  nag  for  the  valuable  info.
 
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 I  would  suggest  you  aerate  the  water  overnight.  This  will  do,  even  if  your  water  has  chlorine.
 
 About  hypo,  I  would  suggest  stuff  like  Aqua  plus  by  Hagen  thats  really  good  stuff.
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