Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Hello Experts ,
I had a established planted tank for last one and half year, here are the details:
Tank Size : L 54 X W 15 X H 20
Plants : Red Lily, Dwarf Anubias, Cryptocorynes, Vallisneria, Sagittaria, African Fern.
Substrate : Red Clay/COCO peat – added fertilizer (1.5 Inch) , Golden sand on top (1.5 Inch).
Heater : 250W – Jagger. Set to 30 dc.
Filters : Sponge filter running with pump, Internal RS 646 , External Ehiem 2217.
Last week I have implemented the new 2217 and currently both the filters are running parallel. (May be for another 2 weeks)
CO2 : Not now.. earlier DIY.
Water test : haven’t done yet, where to do this in Pune?
Fishes : Discus – Brown 3, Chequered 3, Snow white 1, Blue 1, snakeskin 2 (size almost 3 to 3.5”)
Flying fox 2
Serpae Tetra 2
Food : Hikari bio gold, Dafnia, Hikari freezed blood worms, Goat Heart mix, dried blood worms, tetra bite and some Tropical color enhance flakes.
I need some guidance from you :
1. I am giving all the above mixed food daily 3 to 4 time till they finished in 15 minutes, is that ok?
2. Where can I get the freezed blood worms in Pune with reasonable rates?
3. Is it okay to give a goat heart as it is? (Without mix)
4. As I am removing the internal filter in short time, can I add another pair of discus of Red melon?
If needed I will ask further questions!!!
Will add some snaps in my next post
Thanks in advance..
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Thanks for the advice.
1. As per your suggestion will add 2 more. (Super red melon)
2. Currently I am doing weekly twice or thrice water change around 35 to 40%.
What I observed, whenever I do the water change the fishes are scratch there body to the objects. Looks like this is a Parasite, which is the good anti-parasite for my planted aquarium?
3. Which is good medicine for internal parasite?
3. In our religion we hadn’t eat meat and fish hence I cant prepare the mix. (earlier one sheet I have bought form a breeder.)
Awaiting for your kind advice.
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
2. Currently I am doing weekly twice or thrice water change around 35 to 40%. What I observed, whenever I do the water change the fishes are scratch there body to the objects. Looks like this is a Parasite, which is the good anti-parasite for my planted aquarium?
I don't think there is any major problem . If it would have been bare bottom tank I could advice you to treat with PP , but with planted tank , very difficult . You just try to do good WC daily instead of twice in a week , they should be OK .
Which is good medicine for internal parasite?
1) Very good WC
2) No live feed like Blood worms , tubiflex
3) Metronidazole in feed for 12 days in every 3 months .
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
this is Heiko Bleher and I just wanted to give a short advice:
1. YES feed Dafnia, it is very good - excellent for your discus, as they will be moving and chasing and that is their nature !
2. Your water changes of 35-40% weekly is more than enough, do not change every day. That is only done in commercial breeding establishments. If you have a breeding establlshment and bar tank(s), than ok daily WC.
best regards from as collector, bredder and writer (Bleher's Discus volume I),
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Thanks Heioko for advice!!!
What I observed yesterday after 15% water change is that the all the fishes are become very happy and start chasing each other and I think that’s the good thing. What’s your opinion? Yaa that’s true I am not a commercial breeder but I want to establish couple of pairs from my 10 tank mates.
1. I need a name of external anti-parasite good medicine which can be available at Pune or Mumbai. (Will ready for future).
2. My snow white is around 2 inches is dropping in white looks like it’s a disease, can you please suggest, how to treat this?
3. How about the live Blood warms or Tubiflex warms monthly twice?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Prazipro is one the most popular medicine for treating parasital infection, flukes etc. Its easily available at any pet store.
White poo indicates fish is not doing good. It could be due to many reasons, stress is one of them. Isolate the fish to QT & treat him with metro. Ensure temp. is kept around 30 degrees.
Strictly no-no for live TW. If you trust source of BW to be safe, you can take a chance with live BW.
The idea behind daily WC is to boost growth & to maintain clean water conditions. Your discus are still young, let them mature & form pair by themselves.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Thanks all for your earlier suggestions!!!
2 months back I had bought 2 Chequered discus around 3.00” hoping that small is a female and big, ugly one is a male, till new stock added the old mail was a territorial and guard the food at bottom. 1 month back I had bought another 4 discus’s with same size. One is chequered and other 3 are brown. Looks like the new chequered is also a male and now he is boss!!!
What I observed that the old male (suppose to be) is not eating a food properly and staying a side from the group. Is it a normal behavior or something is wrong with this?
15 days back I had bought another 4 heads, 2 are small size around 2” and other are around 3.00”. the smalls and one of new (snakeskin) is not eating properly they are taking very little food. How to make them hungry? And take a food as usual.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Hope you are quarantining the new fish before introducing it to the main tank.
It is always advisable to keep a lot of common size discus.
Raise temperature to 31-32 degrees to make them hungry (metabolism factor).
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Old tank with New DISCUS's
Which algae eater can be kept with discus’s? Earlier I had two Chinese algae eater in my community tank and they had done there job perfectly. I have seen very thick lair of sticky thing from inside the glass. I have 2 Siamese algae eater but they are not cleaning the glass.
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