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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Collection Trip Bangalore - April 2009 Reply with quote

 great  thread  fellas...keep  it  coming  .....thank  god  everyone's  safe...pics  are  lovely...  we  want  more  information  and  pics  on  various  biotopes  and  fishes  ...hit  me  with  the  knowledge...  Cheering   Thumb Up
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 Thanks  guys  for  making  the  trip  happen  and  experience  the  same.The  ardous  task  of  recce  undertaken  by  Nayak  &  Madhu  and  inputs  privided  by  Deepak  helped  Madan  in  charting  and  choosing  the  route  carefully,  not  a  single  extra  kilometer  on  the  trip  meter!  Maximum  time  was  spent  on  fishing  and  plants  collection.
 
 Everyone  one  of  us  reached  our  places  safely.
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     Ashwin,Deepak,Shriram,Trevor,Madan,Mayur,Shreyas,Nayak,Deb,Suneal,Suraj,Arka,
 (Sitting)  Navneet  and  Rahul.
 
 More  pics  will  follow.
 
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 Fish  Pics  will  take  a  while  coming,  as  the  photography  tank  was  left  behind  in  Bangalore.
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 Waaah,  where  did  my  post  go....  now  I  have  to  retype...  a  message  said  I  cannot  post  immediately  after  my  own  post  and  ate  my  message  up   Sad  
 
 What  a  trip  and  what  an  experience...  and  what  a  title  to  earn...  most  number  of  fishes  for  the  trip  award  goes  to  ...  Shreyas   Cheer   Clapping   and  that  too  this  is  my  first  trip...  I  pat  my  own  back  for  this...  well  done
 
 Deepak,  thanks  for  all  the  trouble  you  took,  really  was  a  pleasure  in  gliding  through  the  smooth  trip  you  organised.
 
 Thanks  to  the  Seniors,  Mr.  Madan,  Mr.  Trevor  and  Mr.  Nayak  for  all  the  guidance  and  for  the  experience  I  got  to  share  with  them...
 
 All  the  three  of  them  have  a  great  sense  of  humour  and  have  amazing  one  liners.
 
 The  hobbyists  from  Bangalore  whom  I  know...  I  thank  them  all  for  being  able  to  share  this  experience  with  them  and  was  good  to  get  to  know  them  better...
 Mayur,  Dinesh  and  Sriram.  Ashwin  (is  from  Chennai  whom  I  met  on  my  visit  to  Chennai  and  he  loves  my  one  liners   ROFL  but  he  comes  second  after  Prem,  who  simply  subscribes  to  my  one  liners)
 
 I  am  pleased  to  have  met  for  the  first  time
 
 Suraj  (what  enthusiasm  and  knowledge  he  has....  I  had  heard  of  him  quite  a  few  times  and  now  he  is  going  to  breed  the  Sahyadrensis  I  caught  for  me   Thumbs Up  ).  Planning  to  visit  him  soon
 
 Suneal  for  sharing  the  roller  coaster  ride  with  me   Smile   (will  call  you  on  my  next  Mumbai  visit...  )
 
 Deba  (with  his  super  enthusiasm  in  catching  fishes,  that  he  gave  Ganesh  Darshan  with  his  Trunk  et  all   ROFL  )
 
 Arka  (the  more  sober  relative  of  Deba   Smile   who  is  going  to  take  care  of  my  Zebra  Danios)
 
 Rahul  (and  thanks  also  for  the  ride  back  home...  to  my  door  step)
 
 and  last  but  not  the  least...  Navneeth  (thanks  for  driving  me  around  pal  and  also  for  letting  me  drive  your  car,  it  turned  out  that  his  bark  is  worse  than  his  bite,  as  the  music  was  always  enjoyable  and  not  the  super  heavy  metal  I  was  expecting,  and  the  speeds  were  tolerable  for  most  of  the  journey.  The  unfortunate  incident  happened  when  he  decided  to  drift  on  a  narrow  road  that  turned  at  a  mini  bridge.  The  car  skid  out  of  control  and  almost  stopped  with  the  front  wheel  outside  the  edge  of  the  road  when  the  car  decided  that  what  was  outside  was  too  heavy  and  it  had  to  topple  and  over  we  went  where  after  landing  on  its  side,  the  car  decided  to  spare  us  from  anything  more  serious.  Thankfully  all  three  of  us  were  okay  and  the  car  was  on  road  in  few  minutes  and  our  driver  was  back  to  his  usual  self  (inspite  of  suffering  two  minor  injuries  to  his  feet)
 
 All's  well  that  ends  well
 
 Now  lets  get  to  my  achievements...
 
 13  Loaches  (most  were  Thermalis  I  guess...  in  custody  of  Deepak)
 22  Zebra  danios  (in  custody  of  Arka,  watch  out  they  jump  easily)
 7  Puntius  sahyadrensis  (in  custody  of  Suraj,  who  has  promised  a  good  spawn  to  come)
 10  Melon  Barbs  (in  custody  of  Nayak,  I  am  sure  they  will  do  well,  I  dont  have  a  spare  tank  yet  and  I  will  go  native  one  day)
 Red  Claw  Shrimps  (in  custody  of  Dinesh,  they  are  fish  predators  I'm  told,  so  be  careful,  I  loved  these  shrimps  and  might  keep  them  one  day,  but  now  I  have  too  small  fishes  to  let  them  be  predated)
 
 I  just  took  a  few  Shrimps  (which  we  thought  to  be  Wood  Shrimps  and  which  were  caught  by  Mayur)  which  have  turned  deep  red  in  colour  by  the  time  we  got  back,  yet  to  confirm  if  they  are  Cherry  Red  Shrimps  or  not
 
 As  far  as  the  innovations  in  fish  catching  techniques...  Mr.  Trevor  is  a  master  narrator,  so  I  will  leave  it  to  him   Smile  
 
 All  in  all...  a  mind  blowing  experience...  I  have  already  confirmed  the  next  trip  as  well   Very Happy  
 
 IAH.....  Jai  Ho
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Collection Trip Bangalore - April 2009 Reply with quote

 Shreyas  -  I  didnt  do  much.  All  I  did  was  tried  to  meddle  in  things  when  Madan  was  planning  Smile  and  made  few  phone  calls.
 
 There  was  one  time  when  I  thought  I  might  have  expected  too  much  and  got  the  team  into  trouble.  But  everything  turned  out  well.
 
 The  loaches  you  caught  are  not  L.  thermalis  but  most  probably  N.  anguilla  -  Right  now  they  are  acting  like  monkeys  in  the  tank.  Thanks  a  lot.


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 The  loaches  you  caught  are  not  L.  thermalis  but  most  probably  N.  anguilla  -  Right  now  they  are  acting  like  monkeys  in  the  tank.  Thanks  a  lot.                

 
 Me  want  some  then  Wink  
 
 Post  some  pics  too  Deepak  for  better  ID  Smile  
 
 Cheers,
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Collection Trip Bangalore - April 2009 Reply with quote

 Hayath,  will  be  posting  snaps  of  these  in  few  days.  After  couple  of  days  of  travel,  they  were  quite  stressed  and  lost  coloration.  They  seem  to  be  fine  now,  but  the  lone  probable  Schistura  sp.  (see  Madan's  photograph)  is  getting  spooked  with  any  light.  So  snaps  have  to  wait  till  the  guy  is  ok  and  fine  with  the  new  environment.
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 Congrats  guys  for  a  great  trip.  Madan,  thanks  for  the  great  pics.   We  had  a  Plantfest  here  in  Houston  this  past  weekend.  We  collected  Fissiden  fontanus  for  the  first  time  along  with  another  species  of  Fissiden.  Looks  like  it  was  a  great  weekend  on  bothsides  of  the  world.
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 Hey  Shreyas,
 
 The  fishes  I  took,  the  juveniles,  are  Melon  Barbs  (Puntius  fasciatus)  and  not  Puntius  sahyadrensis  as  originally  thought.   Crying or Very sad   Please  confirm  with  the  other  guys  whether  they  have  the  P.  sahyadrensis.
 
 No  fish  loss  after  the  tremendously  long  journey  home.  I  have  three  Puntius  sahyadrensis,  6  Puntius  fasciatus  fries,  and  three  loaches  which  I  will  post  for  ID  soon.
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 No  fish  loss  after  the  tremendously  long  journey  home.                

 
 Yup,  there's  a  misconception  regarding  use  of  Oxygen  for  packing  fish.  On  our  collection  trips,  unlike  fish  transportation,  it  is  the  water  temperature  that  is  more  important  than  Oxygen  packing.
 
 Higher  the  water  temperature,  lower  is  the  oxygen  saturation  level  in  the  water.  It  is  more  important  to  maintain  the  car  cool,  by  running  the  A/C,  parking  in  the  shade,  frequent  water  changes,  than  dumping  oxygen  in  the  bag.  The  fish  we  catch  are  well  fed,  and  they  excrete  a  lot  in  the  initial  stages.
 
 Another  important  point  which  I  did  not  need  to  point  out  during  this  trip,  limit  the  total  fish  length  in  the  bag  to  the  width  of  the  bag,  this  thumb  rule  observed  over  many  collection  trips,  has  saved  a  number  of  fish,  even  when  water  changes  are  delayed  and  gives  you  a  greater  margin  for  error.
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 Absolutely  sir!
 We  were  able  to  bring  home  the  fishes  even  after  5  days  when  they  reached  my  home  after  the  recce.   They  shit  so  much  on  the  1st  day  and  it  goes  down  on  the  proceeding  days.   Day  2  we  were  making  wcs  for  every  3-4  hrs,  and  the  last  day  the  fishes  survived  for  8  long  hours  when  i  packed  them  at  6  am  in  bangalore  and  reached  home  at  around  1  PM.   None  were  oxygen  packed.   Simply  1-2  small  fishes/bag  and  no  fish  was  bigger  than  2".   I  have  done  the  same  on  trips  on  my  bike.
 Bottomline  is,  dont  tend  to  bring  back  the  whole  lot,  but  a  few  fishes  what  you  really  want  to  house.   Pack  them  with  just  enough  water  for  the  fish,  pack  it  and  make  waterchanges  whenever  you  can.
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 Hi  
 
 WOW!!  what  a  trip  this  looks  like.  Good  to  know  all  are  safe  looking  at  the  snaps  looked  like  a  bad  accident.  Loved  the  places  you  guys  have  gone  to,  wants  to  make  me  hit  the  road  right  now!
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 Oops  Suraj,  the  Puntius  sahyadrensis  must  be  with  Nayak  then...  Nayak  saar,  please  confirm...  in  the  dark  and  since  they  had  lost  colouration,  I  really  did  not  make  out  what  they  were,  and  thought  they  were  P.  sahyadrensis.  As  I  told  you,  those  places  that  we  visited  are  asking  for  another  trip....  dont  you  think  so??
 
 Sorry  about  the  mix  up.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Collection Trip Bangalore - April 2009 Reply with quote

 Each  fishing  trip  experience  is  different  from  the  other.It  is  difficult  most   of  the  time  to  put  down  in  words  on  many  of  the  different  variety  of  things  we  observe  but  it  remains  clearly  etched  in  our  minds  which  certainly  helps.  Smile  
 
 The  river  bottom  encountered  on  this  trip  was  pebbly  ranging  from  peanut  sized  to  big  boulders,  which  made  catching  the  fish  and  the  loaches  all  the  more  difficult.It  was  always  the  co  ordinated  efforts  Of  Nayak  &  Mayur  and   also  others  which  helped  in  bagging  the  catches.Shreyas  caught  many  of  them  single  handedly.While  a  couple  of  times  I  tried,  it  was  unsuccessful  with  only  juvies  getting  caught  and  had  to  be  released  back.  Sad  
 
 On  this  trip  the  most  beautiful  spot  was  as  in  Madan"s  words  the  "Garden  of  Eden".It  was  heartfilling  sight  to  see  so  many  varieties  of  flora  and  the  fauna  in  such  a  small  place.
 I  will  give  it  a  try  and  try  to  recreate  such  a  beauty.Most  importantly  observing  them  in  the  wild  was  most  pleasurable  for  me  as  hither  to  I  had'nt  encountered  in  any  of  trips  made  earlier.  Smile  
 
 Since  I  had  not  set  up  any  tanks  back  home  I  did  not  collect  any  specimens  and  just  took  a  few  ghost  and   2  wood  shrimps,  courtesy  Shreyas  and  Navneet.The  lone  glass  fish  did'nt  make  it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Collection Trip Bangalore - April 2009 Reply with quote

 Hi  Shreyas,
 
 Yep!  P.sahyadrensis  they  are.
 
 But  that  was  what  you  wanted  all  along,  Correct?  All  are  doing  fine.
 
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