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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 I  dont  understand  how  people  actually  identify  an  oscar's  gender..As  far  as  i  know  they  are  called  monomorphic..Which  means  that  their  sex  cannot  be  determined  unless  one  lays  eggs..Which  is  why,  what  people  do  is  that  they  keep  around  6-8  juveniles  together  and  grow  them  up  and  then  a  pair  is  formed..
 
 @  aquarist  :  those  are  some  simply  mind-blowing  oscars  !!  even  i  have  around  three  9"  oscars  and  just  to  see  them  move  slowly  in  the  tank,  is  brilliant..If  a  pair  is  formed,  the  oscars  will  start  gaurding  an  area  which  the  pair  will  choose..they  will  then  lay  eggs  in  the  same  area..before  that  you  will  see  enormous  tail-slapping,  rubbing  and  lip-locking..usually  they  become  so  aggressive  that  the  smaller  one  ends  up  dying  !!  they  will  also  clean  that  area  nicely,  and  will  become  very  territorial..If  you  think  that  a  pair  is  being  formed,  it  is  best  that  you  keep  a  flat  piece  of  marble  or  clay,  just  incase  you  need  to  hatch  the  eggs  artificially..they  may  even  nip  at  you  if  you  try  to  siphon  the  water..but  dont  count  on  their  pair  being  formed  unless  they  lay  eggs..inspite  of  all  these  signs  they  may  just  break-up  !!  i'm  telling  you  because  it  happened  with  my  oscars..I  even  put  a  marble  plate  inside  the  tank,  but  it  just  pissed  them  off  even  more  !!
 just  before  laying  the  eggs,  both  of  them  will  stop  eating..it  may  go  on  for  weeks(but  dont  worry,  they  know  what  they  are  doing  !!)..
 
 P.S  :  i  really  enjoyed  reading  the  post,  because  you  have  posted  images  right  from  when  you  got  him..its  like  he  has  grown  right  in  front  of  our  eyes  !!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 I  could  n't  get  a  six  footer  Sad  ....but  i  have  a  got  a  four  footer  in  Cheering   (4X2x2)  specially  for  my  beauties
 But  still  not  transfered  them  to  the  new  tank..
 as  the  tank  is  on  a  cycling  mode.  will  soon  post  pictures  
 Till  then  have  a  look  at  these  beauties
 
 
 @  pratik..  I'll  get  back  to  u  soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Wonderful  Journey  of  Oscar.
 
 Nice  topic  to  read  from  beginning  which  is  amazingly  started  1  yrs  back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 just  finished  reading  the  whole  thread  and  its  wonderful.  felt  as  if  they  were  growing  in  front  of  my  eyes...great  going...
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 thanks  for  your  appreciations  Mr.Maulik  and  Mr.chetan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  dont  understand  how  people  actually  identify  an  oscar's  gender..As  far  as  i  know  they  are  called  monomorphic..Which  means  that  their  sex  cannot  be  determined  unless  one  lays  eggs..Which  is  why,  what  people  do  is  that  they  keep  around  6-8  juveniles  together  and  grow  them  up  and  then  a  pair  is  formed..
 
                 

 wyou  can  always  vent  them  Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 [/quote]
 wyou  can  always  vent  them  Wink[/quote]
 
 how  ??  do  you  mean  looking  at  the  vent  and  stuff  ??  i  can  never  figure  anything  by  looking  at  it  !!  still  looks  the  same  to  me  Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 hi
 those  oscars  are  lovely  and  they  will  be  good  in  a  4  foot  tank.why  dont  you  put  them  on  hikari  or  something...they  will  grow  out  nicely  on  that.just  remember  that  in  oscars  even  2  females  can  show  breeding  behaviour  and  even  lay  eggs  but  never  materialize..though  in  your  case  i  think  its  more  of  the  fact  that  they  have  gotten  used  to  staying  with  each  other  rather  than  forming  a  pair.The  real  challenge  would  be  when  you  move  them  to  the  4  footer..new  envioment  new  tank  and  they  may  look  at  each  other  differently..if  your  tank  is  a  large  4  footer  by  large  i  mean  a  4  21  21  or  a  4  2  2  putting  in  2  more  oscars  with  heavy  filteration  might  not  be  such  a  bad  idea.have  been  keepeing  oscars  now  for  8  years  and  i  think  they  are  the  most  under  rated  aquarium  fish  in  this  flower  horn  and  discus  era.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Jayanth,
 
 Those  are  really  lovely  fish  you've  grown.  As  I  was  reading  through  the  thread,  I  was  frustrated  at  a  point  where  the  oscars  had  grown  quite  big,  but  were  still  in  a  small  tank.  But  looks  like  your  persistent  hardwork  with  the  daily  water  changes  have  done  the  trick.  The  fish  look  really  great.  Great  to  know  that  they  will  be  getting  a  bigger  tank  of  their  own.
 
 Hamza,
 IMO  putting  4  oscars  in  that  sized  tank  would  probably  be  1  too  many,  though  it  would  diffuse  the  aggresion.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 if  your  tank  is  properly  filtered  and  u  can  keep  up  with  the  water  change  there  is  no  problem..i  had  2  pscars  in  my  4  footer  and  they  were  a  breeding  pair  but  they  were  very  sulky.now  that  i  put  in  2  more  they  all  are  active  have  small  arguments  and  generally  quite  happy..though  this  4  footer  is  just  a  temp  house  for  them  till  i  get  my  7  footer  ready.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Oscar color identification Reply with quote

 Very  good  growth  dude....Congrats  and  keep  em  in  the  four  footer  alone  also  would  be  great...If  they  are  a  real  pair  and  not  a  homo,  then  if  you  house  more  of  it  in  a  fish  then  i  suspect  there  will  be  a  very  good  chance  of  a  death  match  sometime  later.  Just  my  opinion  and  not  commenting  any  one  ..
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 wyou  can  always  vent  them  ;)
 
 how  ??  do  you  mean  looking  at  the  vent  and  stuff  ??  i  can  never  figure  anything  by  looking  at  it  !!  still  looks  the  same  to  me  Sad                

 They  might  of  same  gender  Sad  
 
                                                 
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 those  oscars  are  lovely  and  they  will  be  good  in  a  4  foot  tank.why  dont  you  put  them  on  hikari  or  something...they  will  grow  out  nicely  on  that.just  remember  that  in  oscars  even  2  females  can  show  breeding  behaviour  and  even  lay  eggs  but  never  materialize..though  in  your  case  i  think  its  more  of  the  fact  that  they  have  gotten  used  to  staying  with  each  other  rather  than  forming  a  pair.The  real  challenge  would  be  when  you  move  them  to  the  4  footer..new  envioment  new  tank  and  they  may  look  at  each  other  differently..if  your  tank  is  a  large  4  footer  by  large  i  mean  a  4  21  21  or  a  4  2  2  putting  in  2  more  oscars  with  heavy  filteration  might  not  be  such  a  bad  idea.have  been  keepeing  oscars  now  for  8  years  and  i  think  they  are  the  most  under  rated  aquarium  fish  in  this  flower  horn  and  discus  era.
 Hamza                
...  thanks  ..  they  are  very  happy  with  live  feeds  and  dry  fish  rather  than  pellets...  they  are  in  the  four  footer  and  they  swim  close  to  each  other  ...  they  open  their  mouth  rarely  and  they  never  bite  each  other...  I  think  they  are  a  pair  ......  Fingers  crossed  till  they  actually  lay  eggs...  "most  underrated"..  true                                                  
Alistair  wrote  (View  Post):                
Jayanth,
 
 Those  are  really  lovely  fish  you've  grown.  As  I  was  reading  through  the  thread,  I  was  frustrated  at  a  point  where  the  oscars  had  grown  quite  big,  but  were  still  in  a  small  tank.  But  looks  like  your  persistent  hardwork  with  the  daily  water  changes  have  done  the  trick.  The  fish  look  really  great.  Great  to  know  that  they  will  be  getting  a  bigger  tank  of  their  own.
 
 Hamza,
 IMO  putting  4  oscars  in  that  sized  tank  would  probably  be  1  too  many,  though  it  would  diffuse  the  aggresion.                
..
 Thanks...
 
 
                                                 
toomanyfish  wrote  (View  Post):                
if  your  tank  is  properly  filtered  and  u  can  keep  up  with  the  water  change  there  is  no  problem..i  had  2  pscars  in  my  4  footer  and  they  were  a  breeding  pair  but  they  were  very  sulky.now  that  i  put  in  2  more  they  all  are  active  have  small  arguments  and  generally  quite  happy..though  this  4  footer  is  just  a  temp  house  for  them  till  i  get  my  7  footer  ready.                

 Mine  is  very  active  and  they  never  sulk  and  I  am  right  now  not  interested  in  keeping  anything  other  than  these  beauties  in  the  tank.  I  even  tried  to  keep  a  pleco...  but  these  monsters  never  allowed  the  pleco  to  move  from  the  space  behind  the  filter.
 Congrats  for  you  for  getting  a  7  footer  for  your  oscars.  
 
                                                 
potteypot  wrote  (View  Post):                
Very  good  growth  dude....Congrats  and  keep  em  in  the  four  footer  alone  also  would  be  great...If  they  are  a  real  pair  and  not  a  homo,  then  if  you  house  more  of  it  in  a  fish  then  i  suspect  there  will  be  a  very  good  chance  of  a  death  match  sometime  later.  Just  my  opinion  and  not  commenting  any  one  ..                

 Thanks  and  I  am  leaving  them  alone  Smile
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 Quarrel  occurs  rarely  ...  .I  have  captured  the  movement  .....  
 
 few  more  photos  of  the  quarrel
 
 A  close  up
 
 Hope  you  all  enjoy  the  photos
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 they  are  great  fish...why  have  you  kept  the  tank  barebottom?give  them  some  gravel  some  rocks  some  wood  and  put  in  some  floating  plants.Still  adding  2  fish  would  not  be  a  bad  idea  imo
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 woow..they've  become  a  pair  of  beauties..keep  up  the  great  work  bro..
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