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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: Aqua guard-water-minerals and pH Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 I  had  a  BB  tank  46X15X18  around  200  liters  with  EHEIM  2217  running  for  3  to  4  hours  daily.  Along  with  this  I  have  added  2  sponge  filters  and  aeration  stone.  Installed  Jager  300  Watt  heater  at  29C  temp.
 
 In  above  setup  I  have  9  discus’s  around  3.5  to  4  inches  and  I  am  doing  50  to  80%  WC  on  alternate  days.  I  am  replacing  the  water  of   aqua  guard  directly  in  the  tank,  is  there  any  issue  with  this?
 
 Also  I  had  read  somewhere  that  the  aqua  guard  water  doesn’t  have  the  minerals  which  are  needed  for  discuss.  Is  there  any  way  to  add  the  minerals/product  directly  to  the  tank  and  what  is  the  percentage?  
 
 Currently  I  am  getting  the  pH  around  7.2  to  7.8,  how  it  can  be  set  to  7.0?
 
 As  I  am  also  observing  that  the  Brown  discus  pairing  is  underway,  to  move  further  I  want  to  know  how  can  I  reduce  the  pH  to  6.5  which  is  needed  for  breading?
 Waiting  for  your  valuable  advice.  Idea  
 
 Thanks  and  Regards,
 
 Kiran  Sankpal
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Aqua guard-water-minerals and pH Reply with quote

                                                   
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I   had   a   BB   tank   46X15X18   around   200   liters   with   EHEIM   2217   running   for   3   to   4   hours   daily.   Along   with   this   I   have   added   2   sponge   filters   and   aeration   stone.   Installed   Jager   300   Watt   heater   at   29C   temp.                  
Good  tank  setup  for  discus  .
 
 
                                                 
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In  above  setup  I  have  9  discus’s  around  3.5  to  4  inches  and  I  am  doing  50  to  80%  WC  on  alternate  days.                  

 Good  water  change  schedule  ,  continue  with  it  .  
 
 
                                                 
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I  am  replacing  the  water  of   aqua  guard  directly  in  the  tank,  is  there  any  issue  with  this?                

 so  if  you  are  doing  80%  WC  ,  you  replaces  160  ltrs  with  Aqua  Guard  water   Surprised  .  How  do  you  manage  this  ,  how  much  time  does   it  takes  to  get  160  ltrs  from  aqua  guard  .  You  need  to  check  the  water  specification  of  aqua  guard  water  and  then  only  one  can  able  to  tell  you  if  replacing  80%  water  with  aqua  guard  water  is  ok  for  your  discus  .  Certain  minerals  which  are  available  in  water  are  good  for  discus  ,  but  if  due  to  advance  filteration  if  such  minerals  are  removed  from  water  ,  it  is  not  good  for  the  discus  growth  .
 You  stays  in  Pune  and  i  Think  your  municipal  water  is  good  .
 
 
                                                 
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Is  there  any  way  to  add  the  minerals/product  directly  to  the  tank  and  what  is  the  percentage?                  

 When  you  add  anything  in  water  ,  the  water  chemistry  changes  and  sometimes  instead  of  getting  the  benifit   its  harms  our  discus  .  try  to  keep  the  system  simple  .
 
 
                                                 
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Currently  I  am  getting  the  pH  around  7.2  to  7.8,  how  it  can  be  set  to  7.0?                
Your  current  water  Ph  is  good  ,  why  you  want  to  alter  it  ?.  don't  try  to  play  with  Ph  ,  or  one  day  you  will  land  up  in  problem  .  
 
 
                                                 
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As  I  am  also  observing  that  the  Brown  discus  pairing  is  underway,  to  move  further  I  want  to  know  how  can  I  reduce  the  pH  to  6.5  which  is  needed  for  breading?                

 In  Discus  breeding  ph  is  one  of  the  factor  ,  not  necessary  that  your  ph  should  be  6.5  .  discus  can  breed  in  Ph  range  of  6.5  to  8  .  other  factors  like  water  hardness  ,  temp  ,  water  quality  ,  etc  is  also  needs  to  be  taken  in  to  consideration  .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Aqua guard-water-minerals and pH Reply with quote

 Just  curious  but  isnt  it  counter  productive  having  your  Eheim  on  for  only  3-4  hours  per  day  ?  All  the  bacteria  in  it  will  be  dead  so  the  only  thing  you  are  geting  from  it  is  the  flow.
 
 Aquaguard  water  :  AS  far  as  I  know  Aquaguard  has  a  mechanical  filter  to  remove  particles  then  UV  filter  to  kill  bacteria  and  activated  carbon  to  remove  chemicals.  I  am  sure  the  activate  carbon  is  usually  exhausted  within  a  month  and  it  doesnt  get  replaced  more  often  than  6months-1  year  so  as  such  I  doubt  the  Aquaguard  is  removing  much  or  any  chemicals  at  all.  If  it  is  a  planted  tank  however,  it  might  be  damaging  your  chelated  trace  elements.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Aqua guard-water-minerals and pH Reply with quote

 Once  again  thanks  Shiva.
 I  have  a  alfa  ewater  aquaguard   in  which   water  passes  through  One  of  the  best  filer  and  then  an  activated  carbon  cartridge  which  removes  organic  pollutants  like  colour,  taste,  odour,  free  chlorine  etc.  after  that  water  heads  for  the  third  stage.  At  the  heart  of  ewater  Series  is  a  high  quality  Stainless  Steel  UV  purification  chamber  the  ultraviolet  lamp,  which  instantly  destroys  all  water  borne  disease  causing  microrganisms.
 
 I  am  using  this  aquaguard  for  last  3  years  in  my  home  and  well  maintained  .  The  outlet  is  thin  and  it  will  take  around  30  to  40  minutes  to  fill  around  100  liters.  One  more  benefit  I  got  from  this  is,  no  temperature  shock  as  water  is  filling  is  very  slowly  and  meanwhile  my  300W  heater  will  do  his  job!!!
 
 Now  I  have  got  the  spirulina  powder  and  will  try  to  make  a  GH  Mix  by  this  weekend  also  I  got  the  sera  granuals  will  see  how  my  discus’s  will  accept  this.  Actually  am  looking  for  frozen  artemia   but  unfortunately  it  is  not  available  in  Pune.  If  anyone  from  Pune  has  an  idea  where  can  I  get  this?  Please  PM…
 
 Mortis,
 Thanks  for  your  input,  by  the  way  I  am  not  getting  your  point  on  “All  the  bacteria  in  it  will  be  dead  so  the  only  thing  you  are  geting  from  it  is  the  flow.”  …  First  of  all  why  the  bacteria  will  dead  as  the  filter  has  the  water  in  it?  And  one  more  thing  I  have  to  sponge  filters  are  running  24/7.
 
 Update  me  if  I  am  thinking  something  wrong.
 
 Thanks  and  Regards,
 Kiran  Sankpal
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Aqua guard-water-minerals and pH Reply with quote

 Hi  Kiran,  what  I  mean  is,  even  though  there  will  be  water  in  the  filter,  it  is  stagnant  water  i.e.  no  fresh  water  is  flowing  through  it.  Because  of  this  there  will  be  no  oxygen  in  the  water  and  the  bacteria  will  die.  Usually  a  filter  should  not  be  off  for  more  than  1-2  hrs  otherwise  most  if  not  all  your  carefully  grown  filter  bacteria  will  die  off.  I  hope  this  has  helped  you  i  understanding  what  I  meant  in  my  earlier  post.
 
 Atleast  the  Aquaguard  stuff  was  ok   Very Happy
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 Got  it  Montis,  Thanks  a  lot.
 
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