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 thanks  for  the  info,madanji....again  keep  us  posted  on  progress!!
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 More  Update  on  the  plywood  tank:
 
 Well  after  vicillating  on  2  part  epoxy,  pond  liner,  etc.,  I  gave  up  on  the  pond  liner  as  the  guy  selling  it  had  no  clue  at  all  as  to  what  to  do  with  it.
 
 I  had  a  research  some  more  and  finally  found  an  adhesive  that  will  stick  the  pond  liner  to  plywood.  The  trouble  was  I  had  to  do  the  entire  job  myself,  cutting  the  pond  liner  to  size,  rolling,  applying  adhesive,  sticking  on  the  pond  liner.  That  would  have  been  a  risk.  So  I  settled  for  epoxy.
 
 My  search  for  epoxy  led  me  to  a  wonderful  place  called  Zenith  Industrial  Supplies,  S.P  Road  Bangalore.  Tel:  22219659.
 The  guys  there  4  of  them  actually  made  it  a  very  informative  visit.  They  are  willing  to  sit  and  discuss  the  whole  issue  with  you,  suggest  alternatives  and  help  you  choose  the  best.  It  comes  with  an  invitation  to  return  any  excess  unopened  containers  for  a  full  refund.  Once  again  I  came  across  some  real  nice  guys  after  Vardhaman  Fertilisers  in  Bangalore.  Finding  such  people  especially  in  a  busy  market  area  like  S.P  Road,  Bangalore  was  heartening.
 
 What  I  am  using  now  is  a  3-part  epoxy,  not  2-part.  This  3-part  epoxy  is  food  grade,  and  harmless  to  fish.  The  2-part  epoxy  could  have  been  used  but  the  3-part  combination  at  a  minimum  extra  cost  makes  it  food  grade.
 This  combination  is  used  to  coat  potable  water  tanks.
 
 The  parts  are:
 Araldite  Standard  Epoxy  resin  GY250CA
 Araldite  Hardener  HY830CA
 Araldite  Hardener  HY850CA.
 
 Manufactured  by:
 Petro  Araldite  Pvt.  Ltd.,
 Manali  Express  Highway,
 Manali,  Chennai  -  600  068.
 In  Collabration  with:  Vantico  AG,  Basle,  Switzerland.
 
 The  first  coat  went  up  today.  Adip  helped  me  coat  it.  Boy  did  I  need  help.  The  damn  epoxy  after  mixing  the  hardeners  is  so  viscous  that  the  brush  hardly  moves.  The  first  few  brush  strokes  and  I  thought  I  am  in  trouble,  once  the  blood  flow  started  in  earnest  to  my  hand  it  was  easier  marginally.
 Adip  helped  me  in  the  initial  stages  and  we  took  turns  painting,  five  minutes  each.
 
 I  have  3  more  coats  to  go,  waiting  for  the  epoxy  to  set  and  become  tacky.  Guess  I  will  be  applying  epoxy  into  the  wee  hours  of  the  morning.
 
 Another  important  thingy  -  the  2-part  epoxy  fully  cures  in  24  hrs.  Whereas  this  3-part  one  takes  7  days  for  full  cure.  I  am  in  no  hurry.
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 Hello  Madan  Ji,
 
 I  have  few  doubts  about  the  UG  filteration.  Hope  your  expertise  can  help  me  with  them.
 
 I  would  like  to  make  a  UG  filter  of  my  Own  with  1  inch  height  and  with  considerable  grill  size.  I  would  like  to  have  2  -3  inches  of  2mm  gravel  on  that.
 
 I  would  like  this  set  up  for  the  planted  tank  with  discus  in  it.  I  also  would  like  to  connect    to  power  heads  to  the  raiser  tubes  such  that  they  pull  the  water  down  from  the  UG.
 
 I  feel  that  this  may  help  in  bringing  the  dirt  particles  to  the  filter  bed,  which  i  hope  I  can  clean  by  siphoning  thru  the  raiser  tubes.
 
 Will  it  have  any  practical  advantage  or  not  .  I  have  so  much  dirt  accumilated  in  the  gravel  and  its  becoming  difficult  to  siphon  the  gravel  as  it  is  the  planted  tank.  
 
 At  this  stage  I  do  not  have  any  canisters  or  externals.  May  be  going  for  it  in  couple  of  months.
 
 Please  correct  me  where  ever  I  am  wrong  and  also  suggest  me  how  to  keep  the  tank  much  cleaner.
 
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 Wow!  Great  going  Very Happy  
 Have  you  fixed  the  glass  and  what  glass  thickness  are  you  using?
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 Hi  Madan,
 
 How  about  some  pictures  ?
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 Shrinivas,  I  for  one  am  not  a  fan  of  UG  filter  in  a  planted  tank.
 If  you  have  used  laterite  in  the  substrate  there  will  be  disaster.
 You  can  build  an  external  wet  dry  filter.  I  had  one  like  this  in  use  and  the  write  up  I'll  have  to  dig  up.
 
 Or  else  Venket's  DIY  filter  will  the  easiest  to  construct.  Think  about  it.
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Hi  Madan,
 
 How  about  some  pictures  ?                

 
 Ravi,  I  have  pics  detailing  each  step  so  far,  but  I  am  saving  that  for  an  article  on  this  physically  demanding  project.
 
 I  will  come  out  with  the  article  once  I  have  the  tank  running  in  about  2  weeks  time.
 
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Wow!  Great  going  Very Happy  
 Have  you  fixed  the  glass  and  what  glass  thickness  are  you  using?                

 
 Beta,  the  glass  will  only  be  fixed  once  the  epoxy  cures  completely,  that  is  in  about  a  minimum  one  week.
 I  will  be  using  12  mm  thick  glass.
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 Thanks  Madan  Ji,
 
 I  have  only  one  tank  currently  and  that  to  it  is  in  the  centre  of  the  hall.    So  going  for  a  sump  filter  sort  of  thing  may  disturb  the  ambience.  It  occults  to  me  that,  I  have  to  work  on  DIY  canister...  or  should  buy  one  good  canister.
 
 But  the  later  involves  too  much  ...  and  may  take  some  time.  Till  that  time  internal  powerfilter  is  the  only  solution  for  me.
 
 Madan  ji,    Can  you  help  me  with  some  good  number  of  small  plants  like  Riccia,  X  Mas  Moss  ..  etc..  Which  I  want  to  have  as  Lawn.
 
 I  am  ready  to  pay  for  the  same.  If  you  have  some  one  in  mind  from  where  I  can  get  some  big  quantity  ...  please  help  me.
 
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 See  what  happens  when  I  mixed  the  wrong  color  pigment.  Had  not  thought  of  the  final  outcome.
 
 I  am  stuck  with  this  color  for  the  interiors  as  I  have  completed  4  coats  of  Epoxy.  I  do  not  want  to  experiment  with  another  grade  as  it  might  Flake  off  after  a  few  months  and  then  I'll  have  epoxy  flakes  flying  all  over  the  tank.
 
 Anyway  this  color  will  set  off  my  black  rocks  very  well.
 
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 Hello  sharma!UG  not  working  for  plants  is  already  mentioned...in  addition  to  that,  somehow  discus  have  not  done  very  well  with  UG  filters.Discus  achieve  their  optimum  condition  in  bare  bottom  tanks.What  you  can  do  for  your  planted  tank  is,grow  out  your  discus  to  best  condition  in  a  separate  bare  bottom  tank(about  8-10  fish),and  keep  only  2-4  in  the  planted  tank,and  keep  rotating  them  turn  by  turn.That  way  you  have  a  wonderful  planted  discus  tank...and  no  discus  will  face  long  term  effects  of  being  in  a  gravel  bottom  tank(this  is  just  my  opinion,as  I  have  not  had  good  growth  of  discus  in  gravelled  tanks)  Smile
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 hello  madanji!
   Smile
   I  dont  know  how  this  will  turn  out...but  thermocol  3D  backgrounds  are  available,in  various  moulded  finishes(a  rocky  finish  is  also  available)that  can  be  pasted  to  the  back,and  inner  sides  of  the  tank.Good  looks(hopefully)and  protection  to  the  epoxy  from  real  rocks(as  a  thermocol  cushion).
 
 I  asked  for  'marine'grade  ply  at  the  plywood  shop...he  offered  waterproof  ply....are  they  the  same?What  commercial  brand  have  you  used?(I  assume  it  is  19  mm)and  what  did  it  cost  per  square  foot?
 
 What  procedure  did  the  carpenter  follow  to  put  the  ply  together?Did  he  simply  apply  fevicol,and  nailed  them?the  internet  resources  I  have  seen,talk  about  using  screws  to  slowly  tighten  the  ends,a  little  at  a  time  on  each  screw,so  that  the  entire  line  sits  evenly...is  that  how  your  carpenter  did  it?I  am  about  to  start  the  same  project  for  a  living  room  in  my  flat...if  the  tank  leaks,there  will  be  1000  ltrs  of  water,not  only  in  my  house,but  subsequently  in  all  other  flats  below  ours!  :lol:  ...and  im  a  bit  nervous  about  the  capabilities  of  our  local  misthries(carpenters!)
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hello  madanji!
   Smile
   I  dont  know  how  this  will  turn  out...but  thermocol  3D  backgrounds  are  available,in  various  moulded  finishes(a  rocky  finish  is  also  available)that  can  be  pasted  to  the  back,and  inner  sides  of  the  tank.Good  looks(hopefully)and  protection  to  the  epoxy  from  real  rocks(as  a  thermocol  cushion).
 
                 

 
 I  am  not  going  for  that  look  somehow  don't  like  it.  Rolling Eyes  
 
 
                                                 
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I  asked  for  'marine'grade  ply  at  the  plywood  shop...he  offered  waterproof  ply....are  they  the  same?What  commercial  brand  have  you  used?(I  assume  it  is  19  mm)and  what  did  it  cost  per  square  foot?                

 
 Waterproof  ply  is  not  exactly  Marine  Grade  ply.  But  after  seeing  the  coverage  of  this  epoxy  I  have  used,  any  ply  will  do.  The  resin  is  so  good  it  practically  fossilises  the  wood.  The  wood  cannot  be  wet  by  air  or  water  once  you  finish  applying  the  epoxy.
 
 There  is  no  need  to  even  go  for  Marine  Grade  or  waterproof  ply  due  to  the  excellent  quality  of  this  epoxy  from  Araldite.  BTW  the  Marine  grade  ply  cost  me  Rs.47/-  per  sq.ft.  Yes  it  is  19  mm  ply.  The  brand  is  Kitply.
 
   
 
                                                 
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What  procedure  did  the  carpenter  follow  to  put  the  ply  together?Did  he  simply  apply  fevicol,and  nailed  them?the  internet  resources  I  have  seen,talk  about  using  screws  to  slowly  tighten  the  ends,a  little  at  a  time  on  each  screw,so  that  the  entire  line  sits  evenly...is  that  how  your  carpenter  did  it?I  am  about  to  start  the  same  project  for  a  living  room  in  my  flat...if  the  tank  leaks,there  will  be  1000  ltrs  of  water,not  only  in  my  house,but  subsequently  in  all  other  flats  below  ours!    ...and  im  a  bit  nervous  about  the  capabilities  of  our  local  misthries(carpenters!)                

 
 The  carpenter  simply  cut  the  plywood  to  size,  applied  fevicol  and  nailed  it  with  2  inch  nails  to  make  a  box,  he  then  drilled  holes  at  4  inch  intervals  and  screwed  with  2  1/2  inch  screws.  That's  all.  Make  sure  he  planes  the  edges  right  and  the  rest  will  take  care  of  itself.  Anyway  the  epoxy  will  bond  so  tightly  to  the  edges  and  the  wood,  that  water  will  never  touch  the  wood  let  alone  the  fevicol.
 
 After  seeing  the  magic  worked  by  this  epoxy  resin  any  quality  of  wood  will  do  and  the  cost  of  such  a  huge  tank  can  be  further  brought  down.
 I  am  not  going  to  waste  any  money  on  expensive  plywood  if  I  ever  again  make  a  tank  like  this  one.  Any  grade  of  Ply  will  have  to  be  coated  with  epoxy  so  why  go  for  expensive  ply?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject: a malawi tank I like... Reply with quote

 Madanji,what  do  you  think  about  these  tanks?(i  think  you  must  have  already  seen  them...but  I  still  thot  id  share  it  with  you!)
 
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 11:14 am Post subject: ply tank,UG filter? Reply with quote

 Hello,madanji...hope  i'm  not  pestering  you  with  my  questions  :lol:(if  so,my  most  sincere  apologies!)  ...because  I  have  some  more....according  to  a  rough  estimate  your  tank  will  weigh  1,700  kg....    nearly  the  weight  of  a  small  car...will  it  be  ok  to  put  such  a  load  on  the  balcony?(or  a  similar  weight  on  the  first  floor  flat?)
 
 Secondly,I  have  posted  pictures  of  yesterday  night's  drama,pulling  out  UG  filter  and  tons  of  mulm  accumulated  under  the  gravel(I  have  sincerely  been  siphoning  at  regular  1  week  intervals...yet  after  nearly  one  year  of  service  the  ug  finally  failed)Luckily  the  tank  was  only  a  60  gallon  tank.I  will  not  imagine  that  happening  with  a  370  gallon  tank.  Shocked  ...are  you  sure  you  want  to  go  in  for  a  UG  prefilter?
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