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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 Hi,
 I  have  a  small  aquarium  which  is  about  2  years  old.  Never  had  pursued  it  as  hobby  or  anything  serious.  Never  had  a  problem  until  the  idea  of  a  newer  bigger  aquarium  stuck  me.  So  got  a  new  aquarium  of  90  liter  size  made  to  start  with  and  was  advised  to  let  it  settle.  This  is  when  things  real  aquarium  thinking  started.  Has  been  about  10  days  since  i  have  lleft  my  new  aquarium  settle.  Meanwhile,  I  jumped  the  gun,  and  found  2  brown  gold  fish  very  interesting  and  brought  them  and  put  them  in  my  old  aquarium.  Since  then  i  have  lost  my  2  old  gold  fish  and  2  black  widows.  I  am  very  worried  as  to  why  suddenly  all  seems  to  be  going  wrong.
 
 Request  all  informed  people  out  here  to  kindly  help  me  correct  my  mistakes.  I  currently  have  3  gold  fish  and  2  widows(dont  know  if  i  am  right).  I  had  to  put  one  gold  fish  in  the  new  tank  as  it  had  started  chasing  the  others.  The  other  problem  was  that  in  these  last  4  days  my  old  tank  fish  where  i  had  kept  4  gold  fish  and  and  4  widows  showed  signs  of  ich  or  red  patches.  I  was  advised  to  put  the  blue  drops  which  i  did  put  2  ml  for  a  20  liter  aquarium.  However,  since  then  i  have  lost  one  gold  fish  and  2  widows  and  am  left  with  2  gold  and  two  widows.  Today  i  moved  the  2  widows  to  a  small  bowl  with  30%  water  from  the  old  aquarium.
 
 Just  keeping  my  fingers  crossed  for  not  losing  any  more..
 
 Please  advise  ..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 Welcome  to  IAH,  and  please  update  your  location  in  your  profile.
 
 What  you  are  calling  as  "let  the  aquarium  settle"  is  Cycling.
 Search  the  forum  or  net  for  Aquarium  cycling  or  Nitrogen  Cycle  in  Aquariums,  you  will  come  across  good  articles  which  would  help.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 What  size  is  your  old  tank  ,  I  think  the  bio  load  on  the  filter  of  the  small  tank  suddenly  increased  when  you  added  2  new  gold  fish  and  hence  the  ammonia  must  have  spiked.  
 Red  patches  are  a  classic  sign  of  ammonia  burns  .  
 IMMEDIATELY  do  a  70%  water  change  ,  also  check  if  your  filter  is  running  well.  
 
 Enusre  that  your  new  tank  is  cycled  well  BEFORE  you  introduce  any  more  new  fish  .  
 Look  up  cycling  in  the  old  posts.  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 Hi,  I  am  from  Bangalore.   Most  articles  i  find  on  the  net  are  of  people  who  are  abroad.  
 For  the  ich  or  redspot  cure  they  talk  about  raising  the  temp  etc.  Do  we  still  need  to  do  it  in  Bangalore  where  weather  is  more  or  less  stable(may  be  from  a  human  being  point).  They  talk  about  adding  salt.  Which  salt  are  they  referring  to.  
 
 I  never  used  any  filter  etc  for  the  last  2  years.  I  just  used  to  clean  the  tank  completly  and  put  my  fish  back.
 
 However  i  am  currently  changing  25%  water  and  also  using  the  gravel  cleaning  suction
 
 Once  i  settle  down  with  all  these  problems  on  hand,  i  plan  to  keep  some  angels  in  the  tank.  The  fish  i  am  currently  left  with  are  3  gold  fish  and  2  widows.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

                                                   
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What  size  is  your  old  tank  ,  I  think  the  bio  load  on  the  filter  of  the  small  tank  suddenly  increased  when  you  added  2  new  gold  fish  and  hence  the  ammonia  must  have  spiked.  
 Red  patches  are  a  classic  sign  of  ammonia  burns  .  
 IMMEDIATELY  do  a  70%  water  change  ,  also  check  if  your  filter  is  running  well.  
 
 Enusre  that  your  new  tank  is  cycled  well  BEFORE  you  introduce  any  more  new  fish  .  
 Look  up  cycling  in  the  old  posts.  
 
 Regards  
 
 Bijay                

 
 
 My  old  tank  is  about  20  liter  capacity,  Unfortunately  i  was  so  ignorant  or  uneducated  about  fish  keeping  that  i  did  not  have  a  filter.  Can  i  take  out  say  30%  water  from  the  old  tank  keep  it  aside,  clean  the  tank  completly  including  the  gravel  and  fill  the  tank  with  30%  old  water  and  70%  new  water
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 Hi  
 
 You  do  not  need  to  do  remove  the  fish  and  gravel  from  your  tank  for  doing  a  water  change,  just  remove  70%  and  refill  with  de  chlorinated  (  if  you  use  cauvery  )  water  and  the  single  most  important  thing  that  will  help  keep  a  fish  alive  in  an  aquarium  is  to  get  a  filter.
 I  think  if  you  go  through  the  appropriate  forum  dealing  with  filteration  ,  you  will  get  an  idea  of  which  filter  can  be  used  depending  on  the  type  and  size  of  tank  and  the  fish  you  are  planning  to  keep.  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 Firstly,  you  need  to  get  filters  for  your  tanks.  Would  suggest  doing  it  ASAP.
 
 Maybe  you  should  transfer  your  fishes  into  the  new  tank  and  keep  changing  ~40%  water  everyday  for  the  first  10days  or  so  of  installing  the  filter.  Then  gradually  reduce  the  frequency  to  twice  a  week.  This  should  hold  your  present  stock  for  now.
 
 I  would  suggest  keeping  your  old  tank  as  a  quarantine/hospital  tank  and  keep  your  fishes  in  the  new  90liter  one.  20liters  is  too  small  for  4  goldies.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 YES  I  SECOND  U  Deepak
 u  should  buy  a  filer  how  they  can  stay  with  oxygen.
 it  will  be  gasping  for  air  right..?
 how  often  u  change  water
 
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 I  had  an  air  pump  which  i  was  keeping  on  during  the  day  and  switch  off  in  the  night.  I  used  to  change  may  be  99  %  water  every  month.  I  used  to  feed  them  once  in  a  day
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Old aquarium and new problems Reply with quote

 @Balashark
 why  you  switch  off  at  night   Surprised  dont  they  hav  to  
 breath  at  night  u  hav  u  kep  your  filter  on  for  24*7
 and  about  your  water  change  only  once  in  a  month  to  bad..dude
 u  hav  to  change  water  weekly  may  be  75%  
 but  in  your  case  u  have  to  change  in  2or  3  days  
 as  u  r  not  using  your  filter  all  the  time..
 may  i  know  the  size  of  your  tank
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 My  tank  size  is  about  19  liters.  The  uninformed  that  i  was  with  regard  to  fish  keeping,  i  used  to  find  water  drip  out  of  the  aquarium  by  morning,  and  to  avoid  this  i  used  to  switch  off  in  the  night.  This  worked  for  the  last  2  years  without  any  problem.
 
 I  have  added  a  filter  to  this  tank  yesterday  and  changed  80%  water  and  cleaned  the  gravel  in  tap  water,  added  the  water  conditioner  and  added  a  small  light.  My  fish,  2  gold  and  one  diamond  widow  which  survived  till  last  evening  seem  to  have  got  a  new  lease  of  life.  The  seem  to  be  very  comfortable,  swimming  all  around,  ate  the  food  as  soon  as  i  put  it  and  looked  lively.  
 
 I  am  now  thinking  of  keeping  both  my  new  90  liter  and  my  old  19  liter  tanks  running  with  different  kinds  of  fish.  Are  gold  fish  difficult  to  maintain?
 
 I  have  thought  of  keeping  a  couple  of  angels  in  the  90  liter  tank.  Request  all  your  views  and  suggestions  as  to  what  i  can  keep  along  with  the  angels  in  the  90  liter  tank  and  what  can  be  easy  for  the  small  tank..
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