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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Graminifoli Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 got  myself  a  9  liter  bag  of  Amazonia  2  for  my  90  liter  tank.  primarily  i  will  be  filling  the  parts  where  i  need  carpet  plants  with  amazonia.  where  i  don't  require  any  carpet  plant  will  be  filled  with  common  gravel.
 
 now  the  question  is  what  carpet  plant?
 i  have  been  a  great  fan  of  hairgrass  but  i  won't  be  using  it  extensively.  so  just  wanted  to  ask  that  if  anyone  had  any  experince  growing  "Utricularia  Graminifolia".  kindly  share.  is  it  invasive,  finicky,  leaves  gravel  and  goes  to  the  top  of  the  tank,  melts  etc.  and  above  all  how  will  it  look  in  a  big  tank.  i  can  say  that  in  a  cube  it  looks  amazing.
 
 i  will  be  using  pressurized  CO2  @2bps  diffused  through  a  ceramic  diffuser.(won't  mind  increasing  it).
 
 
 i  will  use  this  thread  to  track  more  questions  regarding  my  new  tank(to  be  setup  in  early  Jan.  i  will  just  change  the  Subject  and  give  the  page  number(if  it  exceeds  one  page  Chuckle  )).  So  all  who  are  into  planted  aquaria  kindly  help  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 All  i  know  about  Utricularia  Graminifolia  is  that  it  is  very  difficult  to  transport  it  as  it  melts  very  easily  ....even  i  want  to  grow  this  beautiful  plant.....I  have  heard  that  a  specie  of  Utricularia  Graminifolia  also  grows  in  India......in  nature  the  plants  leaves  develop  small  sac  [quite  big  than  normal]  kind  of  structure  due  to  deficiency  of  nutrients  .......
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 Harshal  Bhai  is  the  best  person  to  guide  you  on  this  plant.  He  had  a  great  success  in  his  tank  growing  UG.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 Thanks  Kshitij,  Tirtha
 @Kshitij:  any  idea  where  this  grows  in  India?  i  mean  which  area?
 @Tirtha:  PMed  Harshal.
 
 will  update  here.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 I  have  also  grow  Utricularia  Graminifolia  in  my  shrimp  tank  but  onfortunatly,  i  hav  put  that  carpet  in  Rosy  Barb  tank  and  nothing  left  till  morning.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

                                                   
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 @Tirtha:  PMed  Harshal.
 
 will  update  here.                

 
 I  will  be  a  dead  man.  I  messed  up  with  pogostemon  helferi.   Chuckle  
 But  anyway....  Harshal  bhai  is  the  man  who  has  lots  of  experience  and  can  guide  you  surely.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 Some  tips  from  what  Ive  come  across.
 
 1]  Dont  use  Excel/  Glutaraldehyde,  it  wil  make  the  UG  melt
 
 2]  When  you  first  add  it  to  your  tank  for  the  1st  1  month  give  it  shade  or  low  light  until  it  is  established
 
 3]  A  fine  substrate  might  be  better  since  it  has  very  short  thin  roots  and  after  a  while  your  whole  carpet  might  begin  to  float  up.  Actually  maybe  a  coarser  substrate  will  be  better  as  the  particles  that  the  root  grips  will  have  more  weight  and  hold  it  down  better.
 Aaaaargh  someone  please  say  which  is  right,  I  just  confused  myself  !!!   Sad  
 
 4]  Keep  it  trimmed  otherwise  it  will  begin  floating  when  it  becomes  to  dense
 
 5]  Try  the  dry  start  method  to  get  it  established.  It  does  well  out  of  the  water.  Infact  even  if  you  do  not  use  dry  start,  grow  a  little  bit  i  a  pot  out  of  water  just  as  a  backup  incase  something  goes  wrong.  It  has  nice  pretty  purple  flowers.  Tell  your  wife/mummy  that  it  is  carnivorous  and  eats  macchars  !!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 Hope  these  links  help
 
 AQ
 
 Aquascapingworld
 
 Aquascapingworld_2
 
 I  have  UG  (collected  from  North  Kerala)  in  my  ADA  tank,  the  leaves  are  much  narrow  but  some  new  leaves  are  broad.  Rahul  (retro_gk)  says  the  plant  is  going  through  transition  and  in  tank  conditions  looses  its  bladder  and  the  leaves  become  broader.
 
 Cheers
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: anyone has any experience with "Utricularia Gramini Reply with quote

 UG  is  a  fairly  easy  plant  to  grow  with  Aquasoil  and  Co2  injection.  Have  about  2-3  WPG  of  light  and  you  will  be  growing  nice  meadows  of  it  in  your  tank.  Make  sure  that  the  plants  that  you  get  are  healthy.  UG  does  not  travel  well.  If  you  receive  plants  that  are  barely  hanging  on  I  would  recommend  you  to  plant  them  in  a  small  tray  with  about  inch  of  used  Aquasoil  and  about  a  1  cm  of  water  over  it.  You  could  put  this  tray  under  artificial  light  or  under  direct  sunlight  and  let  it  propagate.  When  UG  received  in  bad  shape  is  directly  planted  in  a  new  Aquasoil  it  will  melt  and  disappear  due  to  excess  amount  of  nutrients  which  Aquasoil  leeches  initially.  Also  have  a  good  filter  on  the  tank  so  that  debris  doesn’t  settle  on  the  carpet.   Any  drastic  change  in   water  parameters  can  completely  melt  the  carpet  overnight.  
 
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 @Tirtha:  PMed  Harshal.
 
 will  update  here.                

 
 I  will  be  a  dead  man.  I  messed  up  with  pogostemon  helferi.   Chuckle  
 But  anyway....  Harshal  bhai  is  the  man  who  has  lots  of  experience  and  can  guide  you  surely.                

 
 but  he  replied  and  he  had  bad  experience  growing  it  but  at  that  time  he  didn't  had  ADA  soil.  Very Happy  
 
 
                                                 
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 Some  tips  from  what  Ive  come  across.
 
 1]  Dont  use  Excel/  Glutaraldehyde,  it  wil  make  the  UG  melt
 
 2]  When  you  first  add  it  to  your  tank  for  the  1st  1  month  give  it  shade  or  low  light  until  it  is  established
 
 3]  A  fine  substrate  might  be  better  since  it  has  very  short  thin  roots  and  after  a  while  your  whole  carpet  might  begin  to  float  up.  Actually  maybe  a  coarser  substrate  will  be  better  as  the  particles  that  the  root  grips  will  have  more  weight  and  hold  it  down  better.
 Aaaaargh  someone  please  say  which  is  right,  I  just  confused  myself  !!!   Sad  
 
 4]  Keep  it  trimmed  otherwise  it  will  begin  floating  when  it  becomes  to  dense
 
 5]  Try  the  dry  start  method  to  get  it  established.  It  does  well  out  of  the  water.  Infact  even  if  you  do  not  use  dry  start,  grow  a  little  bit  i  a  pot  out  of  water  just  as  a  backup  incase  something  goes  wrong.  It  has  nice  pretty  purple  flowers.  Tell  your  wife/mummy  that  it  is  carnivorous  and  eats  macchars  !!
                 

 
 i  have  6  months  old  used  aquasoil  in  my  nano  tank.  i'll  take  all  the  hairgrass  from  that  tank  and  put  it  in  the  new  tank.  as  the  aquasoil  is  quite  crushed  in  that  tank(thanks  to  my  rescaping  with  rocks  every  now  and  then).
 i  will  try  to  grow  it  immersed  first.
 
 
                                                 
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 Hope  these  links  help
 
 AQ
 
 Aquascapingworld
 
 Aquascapingworld_2
 
 I  have  UG  (collected  from  North  Kerala)  in  my  ADA  tank,  the  leaves  are  much  narrow  but  some  new  leaves  are  broad.  Rahul  (retro_gk)  says  the  plant  is  going  through  transition  and  in  tank  conditions  looses  its  bladder  and  the  leaves  become  broader.
 
 Cheers
 
 Vince
                 

 
 thanks  a  lot  for  the  links.  i  will  keep  updating  on  my  plans  for  this.
 
 
                                                 
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 UG  is  a  fairly  easy  plant  to  grow  with  Aquasoil  and  Co2  injection.  Have  about  2-3  WPG  of  light  and  you  will  be  growing  nice  meadows  of  it  in  your  tank.  Make  sure  that  the  plants  that  you  get  are  healthy.  UG  does  not  travel  well.  If  you  receive  plants  that  are  barely  hanging  on  I  would  recommend  you  to  plant  them  in  a  small  tray  with  about  inch  of  used  Aquasoil  and  about  a  1  cm  of  water  over  it.  You  could  put  this  tray  under  artificial  light  or  under  direct  sunlight  and  let  it  propagate.  When  UG  received  in  bad  shape  is  directly  planted  in  a  new  Aquasoil  it  will  melt  and  disappear  due  to  excess  amount  of  nutrients  which  Aquasoil  leeches  initially.  Also  have  a  good  filter  on  the  tank  so  that  debris  doesn’t  settle  on  the  carpet.   Any  drastic  change  in   water  parameters  can  completely  melt  the  carpet  overnight.  
 
 Bhushan
                 

 
 thanks  a  lot  for  the  suggestion  but  i  find  the  most  scary  part  what  is  in  your  comment  as  "Any  drastic  change  in   water  parameters  can  completely  melt  the  carpet  overnight".  
 trust  me  i  am  still  learning  and  changing  water  parameters  can  be  hard  to  controlled  by  me(however  what  if  i  grow  it  immersed  all  the  way??  the  flowers  look  amazing.  Very Happy
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 anyone  has  seen  any  variety  of  Utricularia  around  Bangalore????
 
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