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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Hello,  
 
 I  was  planning  for  a  simple  planted  tank  .  Please  guide  me  choosing  right  equipment   for  the  same.  
 I  wish  i  will  go  with  laterite+  Sand  on  top  combination.I  will  be  using  the  java  moss  nothing  else  in  my  tank  
 I  will  surely  plant  dense  as  possible.  
 Tank  specs:  
 2x1x1  (feet)
 with  a  light  hood  
 and  a  sponge  filter  
   
 No  External  CO2  at  the  time  nor  planned  in  near  future.  
 Will  Change  Water  50%  per  week  
 Currently  no  FISH  planned.May  be  Plant  Only  Tank.(in  future  can  add  some  guppies  and  tetras  though)  
 well  temperature  around  here  is  26-28C  at  max  in  the  tank  
 so  my  query  was  do  i  need  extra  fertillizers  to  add  in  my  tank  ?
 how  much  light  to  provide  so  that  i  wld  b  able  to  grow  moss  easily  with  a  good  growth  rate  ?  
 wht  light  fittings  to  go  with  this  tank  and  setup  ??
 
 i  didnt  know  where  to  post  it  under  correct  topic  forum  so  posted  it  here  !
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Hi,  since  you  plan  to  grow  only  java  moss,  to  my  experience  as  long  as  there  is  light  this  plant  will  grow.  
 
 In  this  case,  a  T8  for  the  length  of  your  tank  would  either  be  18  or  20watt  lighting  is  more  than  enough.
 
 For  moss...to  grow  them  nicely...in  my  experience  is  temperature...26-28C  is  good  enough  :D
 
 Extra  fertilizer  is  not  necessary  Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Adding  a  bit  of  fertilizer  once  a  week  will  improove  Moss  growth.  keep  the  lights  on  for  12  hours,  add  a  few  shrimp  to  take  care  of  algae.  You  will  have  a  florushing  moss  tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 no  shrimps  here  in  vadodara  gujarat  !!  Thumb Down  
 and  ya  i  tried  a  moss  setup  b4........failed  completely  Thumb Down  
 lack  of  attention........didnt  pay  much  to  the  tank  and  didnt  care  much  abt  the  moss  
 
 this  time  i  am  going  to  give  it  as  much  attention  needed........
 no  hurry......  Smile  
 i  am  going  to  buy  things  according  the  need.......so  letsc  
 
 but  hey........wht  can  i  do  to  reduce  the  amount  of  time  12hrs  ???
 like  to  say  4-6hrs...a  day  ???
 i  cant  turn  on  the  lights  for  12hrs  a  day  ???
   
 and  can  u  suggest  a  good  T8  manufacturing  company
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Get  T8  lamp  specially  for  aquarium  use,  their  wattage  is  higher....for  example:
 -  a  standard  2ft  T8  is  18watt
 -  but  aquarium  purpose  is  2ft  T8  is  20watt
 
 I  doesn't  seem  to  be  much  difference,  but  to  me  I  will  go  for  the  higher  wattage  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 If  you  haven't  picked  up  a  sponge  filter  as  yet,  I  would  suggest  a  HangOn  Back.  Much  quieter  and  lesser  loss  of  dissolved  CO2  than  a  sponge  filter.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 According  to  my  small  exp.  for  my  HC  tank.....HOB  not  good  at  all.  I  have  pressurized  CO2  system  (1kg.  Cyl.)  and  due  to  the  HOB  there  is  a  huge  loss  of  CO2.  I  have  another  small  Bodyguard  Power  Filter  which  done  very  good  mixing  of  CO2.  My  first  set  up  was  totally  lost  but  after  removing  the  HOB  now  I  got  my  HC  carpet  ...very  soon  I  will  update  with  picture.  My  tank  size  (24"x10"x10").  May  be  I  am  wrong...but  this  is  my  last  4  month  exp.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 @  borneosucker
 
 ya  thats  wht  i  was  wondering  is  der  any  such  comapny  that  is  considered  standard  for  sub  fittings  ??
 i  mean  like  phillips  or  orpat.........  Confused  
 
 @suraj  
 
 i  already  have  a  sponge  filter.......will  be  using  it  
 and  ya  noise  isnt  a  problem......well  i  dnt  intend  to  keep  co2......in  my  tank.
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 @  preeths  :  if  ferts  are  to  be  added  which  of  them  are  to  be  given  
 any  names  or  brands  u  suggest  sir  
 
 wht  abt  the  duration  of  lights  to  be  kept  on.....i  need  to  reduce  the  time  to  say  6hrs  at  maxx
 and  ya  well  is  co2  neccessary  for  a  java  moss  only  tank  ??
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ya  thats  wht  i  was  wondering  is  der  any  such  comapny  that  is  considered  standard  for  sub  fittings  ??
 i  mean  like  phillips  or  orpat.........  Confused
                 
 
 What  do  you  mean  by  sub  fitting?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 oh  sorry  for  the  mistake  i  meant  "such"  tube  fittings.......
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Yeap....fittings  is  standard.
 just  that  household  T8  lamp  has  slighly  lower  wattage  compare  to  aquarium  purpose  T8  lamp.
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 Hi  sank,
 
 My  two  bits.  Just  do  regular  de-chlorinated  water  change,  at  least  10-15%  per  week  and  that  will  be  it.  Dispense  with  fertilizers,  CO2  etc.  No  doubt  they  grow  fast  with  CO2  and  ferts,  but  your  idea  is  to  make  it  a  low  tech  isn't  it.  In  my  place  in  room  light  it  is  growing  very  well.  I  just  ensure  four  hours  of  indirect  sunlight  in  the  morning.  
 
 I  also  suggest  that  you  avoid  nutrients  addition  completely  or  make  it  a  full  tech  (hi-tech  is  a  misnomer  to  me)  tank.  Otherwise  you  will  find  it  very  difficult  to  get  a  fine  balance  with  this  half  baked  additions.  Java  moss  will  grow  very  well  without  CO2,  nutrients  etc  but  what  you  have  to  definitely  take  care  with  any  moss  is  the  temperature.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: New Low tech tank Reply with quote

 Adding  potassium  nitrate  or  potassium  sulphate  once  in  a  week  worked  for  me.  The  reason  for  the  12  hours  of  light  is  because  it’s  a  low  light  setup.  If  you  are  not  keeping  any  fish  or  shrimp,  don’t  bother  with  water  changes,  just  top  up  any  water  loss  due  to  evaporation.  Moss  will  take  15-20  days  to  get  acclimatized.  After  this  you  will  see  good  growth.
 
 You  can  get  away  with  just  6  hours  of  light.
 
 I  have  grown  moss  in  "Hi  tech"  and  "low  tech"  setups.  In  hi  tech  with  CO2,  fertilizer  and  high  light  etc  moss  will  grow  very  well  like  any  other  plant.
 
 You  dont  need  any  substrate  for  a  moss  only  tank,  keep  it  bare  bottom  if  you  like.
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 Only  one  thing,  please  DO  the  water  changes  even  if  you  do  not  have  any  fish  or  shrimp.  This  is  done  not  just  to   get  rid  of  waste,  but  also  replenish  minerals  and  gases.  Also  do  keep  some  circulation  to  prevent  algae  stretching  from  ends  of  the  tank  in  long  threads  like  cobweb.
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