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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

 Hey  Guys,
 
 i  have  been  informed  by  the  LFS  at  Juhu  yes  the  one  next  to  the  juhu  bus  stand  that  there  is  some  one  who  is  farming  Pearl  arowana  (  jardine  )  at  bangalore?
 
 is  this  real.
 
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Hi  Yogesh  i  think  the  thread  is  going  off  topic  
 Could  you  please  tell  us  why  there  are  no  arowana  farms  in  India.                

 Dinesh,
 
 Demand  for  arowanas  is  considerably  less  in  India  when  we  compare  it  to  Japan,  Euro-american  and  "Fengshui  Culture"  countries.  This  fish  demand  huge  space  for  swimming  though  we  try  our  best  to  accommodate  it  to  maximum  tank  size  as  possible  in  home  aquaria.  Captive  Breeding  would  require  large  size  clean  water  ponds  in  turn  very  huge  investment.  It  require  skills  not  to  injure  this  expensive  fish  during  harvesting  as  not  every  male  may  have  his  'mouth-full'.  Also  microchips,  scanning  devices  do  not  come  cheap  either.  Though  tagged  as  endangered  species  by  CITES,  this  predator  is  fairly  available  in  Malaysian  rivers  &  lakes;  hence  most  breeding  farms  are  centralized  in  that  part  of  the  world.
 
 Due  to  western  economic  meltdown,  nowadays  breeding  farms  are  more  concentrating  on  asian  countries  like  India,  Vietnam,  Phils  etc.  as  their  potential  market.  But  I  don't  see  price-fall  for  this  beautiful  fish  due  to  its  constant  global  market  demand.                

 
 Thanks  Yogesh  Clapping
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Whitesnake  wrote  (View  Post):                
Hey  Guys,
 
 i  have  been  informed  by  the  LFS  at  Juhu  yes  the  one  next  to  the  juhu  bus  stand  that  there  is  some  one  who  is  farming  Pearl  arowana  (  jardine  )  at  bangalore?
 
 is  this  real.
 
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 Clive                

 
 Is  it  real,  anyone  from  Bangalore  please  confirm  this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

 @Whitesnake
 
 can  you  some  more  details  about  that  fish  
 farm  in  banglore...
 any  website  or  contact  number
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

 and  also  dinesh  suggested  that  ther  is  no
 need  for  a  microchip  in  
 asian  arowanas,  Silver  arowanas,Jardini  
 and  if  we  have  got  a  large  pond  can  we  breed  
 aro  here  in  India..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

                                                   
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and  if  we  have  got  a  large  pond  can  we  breed  aro  here  in  India..                

 Why  not?
 Just  buy  and  dump  20-odd  arowanas  in  your  pond  and  they  will  breed  provided  they  get  top  conditions  as  demanded.
 Climatic  conditions  is  not  an  issue  here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

 That  sounds  nice..  :)
 
 Cheers  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

                                                   
pran  wrote  (View  Post):                
and  also  dinesh  suggested  that  ther  is  no
 need  for  a  microchip  in  
 asian  arowanas,  Silver  arowanas,Jardini  
 and  if  we  have  got  a  large  pond  can  we  breed  
 aro  here  in  India..                

 
 Hi  Prajin,
 
 you  have  mistaken.
 
 Asian  Arowans  are  endangered  species  and  CITES  (International  Trade  in  Endangered  Species  of  Wild  Flora  and  Fauna)  protected.
 So  they  have  microchip  implant  to  know  the  species  is  bred  captive  and  not  a  wild  caught  one.Also  Asian  arowanas  have  birth  certificates.
 
 Whereas  Silver  and  Jardini  ar  not  endangered  and  don't  have  microchip  implant.
 
 In  my  early  post  i  mentioned  "exclude  asian  arowanas"  Please  refer  to  my  previous  post  in  this  thread
 
 So  i  asked,  why  silver  or  Jadini  is  not  bred  here.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Regaring Arowana farms Reply with quote

                                                   
kr_dinesh  wrote  (View  Post):                

 So  i  asked,  why  silver  or  Jadini  is  not  bred  here.                

 
 How  do  you  know  there  are  no  Silver  or  Jardini  farms  in  India?  
 
 Because  I  have  seen  some  really  really  small  (like  <3  inch)  Silvers  on  sale,  which  seem  to  have  just  lost  their  yolk-sack.  To  me,  it  seems  unlikely  that  these  babies  were  imported  from  SE  Asia.
 
 I  will  ask  my  LFS  guys  about  this,  but  I  do  think  there  are  Silver  and  Jardini  farms  in  India.  I  will  get  more  info  in  some  days.
 
 Regard,
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 PS:  Most  issues  about  "Microchips"  and  CITES  certificates  only  apply  to  the  endangered  Asian  Arowana.
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 So  i  asked,  why  silver  or  Jadini  is  not  bred  here.                

 
 How  do  you  know  there  are  no  Silver  or  Jardini  farms  in  India?  
 
 Because  I  have  seen  some  really  really  small  (like  <3  inch)  Silvers  on  sale,  which  seem  to  have  just  lost  their  yolk-sack.  To  me,  it  seems  unlikely  that  these  babies  were  imported  from  SE  Asia.
 
 I  will  ask  my  LFS  guys  about  this,  but  I  do  think  there  are  Silver  and  Jardini  farms  in  India.  I  will  get  more  info  in  some  days.
 
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 PS:  Most  issues  about  "Microchips"  and  CITES  certificates  only  apply  to  the  endangered  Asian  Arowana.                

 
 Hi  Sid,
 
 Sorry,  i  dont  know  whether  there  is  any  arowana  farms  in  India.I  also  never  heard  about  it.  SO  i  mentioned  "why  silver  or  Jadini  is  not  bred  here"  
 Whitesnake(Clive)  said  in  this  thread  that  there  is  a  fram  in  bangalore  for  jardini.  But  not  confirmed  by  him  or  fellow  hobbyist.
 If  you  can  able  to  get  information  about  arowana  farms  in  India  we  will  be  glad  to  hear  that.
 Please  get  the  information  ASAP.
 
 Regards,
 
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 hey  guys,
 
 I  was  given  the  information  by  LFS  at  juhu  who  told  me  that  there  is  some  one  who  does  farm  them  at  Bangalore  but  he  has  not  given  me  any  more  details.
 
 well  I  was  hoping  some  one  at  Bangalore  could  help  with  the  details.
 
 also  some  months  back  i  had  seen  lots  of  silver  arow  babies  at  Natulus(  bandra)  so  if  some  one  know  the  owner  there  I  am  sure  they  can  get  this  information.
 
 regardrs,
 
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hey  guys,
 
 I  was  given  the  information  by  LFS  at  juhu  who  told  me  that  there  is  some  one  who  does  farm  them  at  Bangalore  but  he  has  not  given  me  any  more  details.
 
 well  I  was  hoping  some  one  at  Bangalore  could  help  with  the  details.
 
 also  some  months  back  i  had  seen  lots  of  silver  arow  babies  at  Natulus(  bandra)  so  if  some  one  know  the  owner  there  I  am  sure  they  can  get  this  information.
 
 regardrs,
 
 clive                

 
 That  is  a  great  news  
 Some  one  from  Bangalore  or  Mods  please  provide  any  details
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 @Sid  and  @clive
 plese  get  some  details  about  the  farms
 
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 Me  too  heard  of  silver  aro  farms  down  south.
 But  not  sure  where   Sad  
 But  may  I  know  why  is  this  search  for  silver  or  pearl  farm  is  for?
 To  get  cheaper  stocks  or  to  just  to  visit  the  farm?
 
 IMO  investing  in  asian  aros  is  bit  on  the  riskier  side  for  the  breeders.
 1)They  need  large  ponds  with  regular  fresh  water  supply  .
 2)The  cost  of  getting  the  juveniles  to  start  the  successful  breeding  program  is  high.
 3)In  south  east  asian  countries   the  breeders  just  dump  juvenile  aro's  in  pond  for  5-6  years  till  they  mature  for  breeding.So  the  breeders  have  to  wait  for  5-6  years  before  they  start  making  profit.
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 5-6  years   Surprised   ....till  taht  time  i  will  forget  that  i  have  them   Chuckle  ......also  the  risk  of  deaths  till  the  period
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