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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: channa belheri or channa gachua Reply with quote

 good  morning  the  friends  I  went  through  your  forum  but  I  have  not  find  of  document  on  fish  from  your  country  unfortunately  he  are  known  little  in  my  country  and  I  have  begin  has  make  them  discover  in  topic  in  my  forum  but  I  well  like  to  have  of  true  information  on  their  subject  then  if  you  can  help  me
 
 


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 if  you  can  help  me  just  like  that  I  shall  see  if  my  information  are  wrong  on  their  subject  and  I  shall  very  much  like  to  see  photographs  of  their  place  of  life.
 
 I  hope  that  we  shall  be  able  work  together  and  that  your  admin  will  like  my  proposal  of  work  with  us.  (Mexico,  Brazil,  Peru,  Spain,  Singapore)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 check  these  links
 
 http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/channa/bleheri.php
 
 http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breeding/Marshall_Rainbow_Snakehead.html
 
 hope  this  helps,  until  our  channa  experts  at  IAH  fill  in  the  missing  blanks.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 Hi......
 
 The  fish  on  the  picture  is  not  a  Ch.  bleheri.......
 
 It  is  some  type  of  gachua!!!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 welcome  to  IAH  Pascal  Antler
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 Ya,  looks  like  a  gachua  from  North  East.  I  have  a  very  similar/same  strain  from  Buxar.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 Thank  you  for  your  help,  the  wholesaler  sells  under  the  name  of  channa  belheri.
 Can  you  show  me  a  photo  of  channa  belheri  and  how  we  see  the  difference.
 
 Please
 
 link  wholesaler
 http://www.exomarc.com/fr/index2.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 just  google  for  a  bleheri,  the  one  with  a  few  thick  orange  blotches  on  the  tail  is  the  bleheri  
 
 anyways  a  pic  here
 http://www.belowwater.com/Fish/2CB61FEB-0350-4D1A-8CB4-6F911D42748A_files/Channa%20bleheri.jpg
 
 
 and  in  the  link  u  have  given  the  first  pic  is  of  a  channa  bleheri
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri Reply with quote

 
 I'm  understand  thank  you  very  munch.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri or channa gachua Reply with quote

 tres  bien  
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri or channa gachua Reply with quote

 Hello.....
 No  Problem.....
 
 Channa  bleheri  have  big  orange  blotches  in  the  Caudal  Fin.........do  not  misidentify  with  Ch.spec.  "Assam"........this  one  has  an  orange  surrounding  on  the  Caudal  (like  gachua  has)
 
 Also  important  is  to  watch  out  for  pelvic  fins.........
 Channa  bleheri  does  not  have  any  pelvic  fins...........gachua  does  have  pelvic  fins!
 
 Anyway,here  is  a  picture  of  bleheri........
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri or channa gachua Reply with quote

 It  looks  like  a  gachua  from  the  North-East..  nowhere  even  close  to  Channa  sp.  Assam..  A  strange  but  maybe  true  reason  is  I  have  noted  that  gachuas  from  down  south  India  do  not  have  a  green  line  sorta  thing  around  their  eyes  which  the  North  East  ones  prominently  and  most  specimens  do!   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: channa belheri or channa gachua Reply with quote

 Hi,Tabby.....
 
 Yes,that  is  true....
 i  have  recived  a  couple  of  this  gachua  type  last  year......
 The  exporter  gave  them  the  name:  Ch.  spec.  "New  Kerala"
 
 also  I  have  recives  some  gachua  type  from  Sri  Lanka.....also  without  the  red  stripe  under  the  eye......
 
 The  question  is:
 Are  all  that  fish  mthat  were  named  Ch.  gachua?
 
 Hamilton,who  discribed  this  species  1822,  have  examined  a  gachua  with  redish  stripe  under  the  eye......I  think  it  was  from  Bengal  area,but  i  am  no  sure  at  the  moment,I  have  to  check  the  paper  for  that........
 
 One  interesting  thing  is,  that  juvenile  gachua  ,the  Hamilton  type,  have  an  Ocellus  in  the  Dorsal.........
 The  body  colour  is  more  brownish/greyish/lightly  olive  sometimes.........
 
 The  gachua  type  without  this  red  stripe  have  no  Ocellus  and  and  the  body  colouration  is  more  marbled  like.......Also  the  eye  is  more  reddish.....
 
 Musikasinthorn  from  Bangkok  says,that  this  is  maybe  a  new  species......
 He  wants  to  call  this  fish:  Ch.  limbata.....
 
 When  you  go  to  elswhere  in  Asia  you  quite  often  find  this  gachua  /  limbata  type...
 I  caught  them  in  North  Thailand,on  Koh  Chang  Island,Krabi........
 And  also  I  know  them  from  Burma(Myanmar)  ,Laos........
 
 But  the  gachua  with  the  red  stripe  under  the  eye  are,as  far  as  I  know,  only  known  from  India.....
 
 So  it  lays  near,that  the  rest  is  NOT  Channa  gachua........
 
 Ralf  Britz  from  the  London  Natural  Museum   is  doing  a  Genetic  Analysis  on  the  Channas  at  the  moment  and  he  told  me,that  the  gachua  complex  is  so  huge,theat  they  have  to  split  thei  work  in  2  pieces...
 
 We  will  see.......it  is  very  interesting!!!
 
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