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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Trevor,
 
 Please  do  not  say  sorry.  
 
 the  snaps  looks  cool.how  old  are  they  Trevor?
 
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 Thanks.  This  fry  was  born  in  my  tank  in  early  2007.  A  one  rupee  coin  is  placed  for  you  guys  to  get  a  rough  idea  of  its  size.
 
 
 
 Note.  Most  of  the  pics  have  been  posted  earlier.
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 Dear  Trevor  ,
 
 Very  nice  fishes  you  have  there  ,  thanks  for  sharing  the  pics.
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 The  baby  is  really  cute  Sir  -  you  must  be  so  proud...  Rally  happy  for  you  from  the  heart.  Thanks  for  sharing  the  pic  Sir.
 
 Thanks  Clive  for  being  so  kind  and  friendly,  and  for  kindly  allowing  us  to  discuss  the  pics  in  your  thread  -  really  nice  of  your  Clive.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Trevor,
 
 I  must  say  he  looks  quite  big  and  I  am  sure  he  must  have  grown  to  be  a  nice  big  boy/girl.
 
 please  can  you  post  a  snap  of  your  tank  and  also  if  possible
 
 the  tanks  size  ?  what  gravel  do  you  use  and  WC  pattern  please?
 
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 @  Trevor  --  your  fish  is  cool...  nice  hump  on  the  alpha...  and  yes  a  full  tank  shot  will  really  satisfy  our  thirst   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 HI,
 
 I  have  been  keeping  Discus  for  so  many  years  and  I  have  never  lost  more  than  3  discus  in  total.
 
 Unfortunately  I  have  lost  another  frontosa  yesterday  and  this  make  me  wonder  why?
 
 I  started  doing  wc  2wice  a  week  
 I  feed  twice  a  day  morning  at  8.00am  and  evening  at  7.00Pm  my  feeding  is  very  less  and  I  make  sure  that  they  eat  every  thing  within  10  mnts.
 
 I  have  a  2217  and  a  air  pump  running  365  days  of  the  year  
 
 In  spite  of  all  this  I  still  lost  one  front  yesterday  
 
 So  now  I  am  back  to  10  fronts  (SAD)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Hey  Clive...  that  is  really  bad  to  hear...  do  you  have  WATER  test  kit  to  test?  can  you  put  the  readings  please
 
 My  advice  was  to  do  "DAILY"  water  change  about  10%  -  25%  till  you  rectify  this  problem  of  lossing  fronts  (atleast  for  next  30  days  now)  and  feeding  only   once  a  day  or  even  lesser  --  once  in  2  days......  Also  please  use  'aged'  water  (atleast  24  hours)  as  chlorine  in  bombay  is  very  high...  wonder  if  you  have  Prime  or  API's  stress  coat...  please  add  that  to  your  tank..  ..  Fronts  are  more  tough  than  Discus  --  so  there  should  be  something  which  is  essentially  not  right  thats  happening  there
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Clive,  do  you  still  have  the  crushed  coral  substrate?  Get  rid  of  it.  Go  bare  bottom  or  use  fine  sand.  If  your  water  is  very  soft,  put  some  coral  in  a  bag  in  the  tank.  I'd  say  this  is  what  is  killing  the  fish.
 
 Is  your  filter  fully  cycled?  If  yes,  you  don't  need  to  change  water  all  that  much  for  a  dozen  inch  long  fish  fed  on  pellets  and  housed  in  a  six  foot  tank.  I'd  cut  water  changes  down  to  20%  once  a  fortnight.  Also,  if  your  source  water  is  soft  and  the  water  in  the  tank  is  hard,  you'll  have  to  match  water  chemistries  when  changing  more  than  5-10%  of  the  volume.
 
 Fish  at  that  size  will  need  regular  feeding.  2x  a  day  is  fine.  What  sized  pellets  are  you  feeding?  Also  make  sure  you  are  feeding  them  enough.  The  pics  from  Feb  4  show  fish  that  look  a  touch  skinnier  than  the  pics  from  Feb  3.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  reply  
 
 Well  I  always  use  aged  water  stored  for  24  hrs  when  I  do  Wc  I  do  only  20%  once  I  drain  out  20%  water  I  add  Hypo  and  then  wait  for  10-  15  mnts  before  I  add  the  aged  water  to  the  tank.
 
 Yes  I  do  have  crushed  corral  in  the  tank  I  also  have  lots  of  hiding  place  in  the  tanks  as  well  for  them  my  2217  has  been  running  for  almost  3  months  in  the  tank  I  have  never  added  any  medication  in  the  tank  (never).
 
 I  do  not  have  Prime?
 
 Well  if  the  crushed  corral  has  to  be  removed  then  I  will  have  it  removed  tomorrow  since  I  have  a  holiday  and  I  will  add  some  to  my  2217.
 
 I  do  not  have  a  test  kit  will  buy  one  today  (definitely).
 
 Thanks  once  again  for  the  feedback.
 
 Regards,
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Clive,  Sorry  for  your  loss.
 
 Get  rid  of  the  crushed  coral.
 
 Water  change  once  in  15  days.
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 Thanks  Trevor,
 
 Will  make  sure  that  I  remove  the  coral  tomorrow  its  self  
 
 Thank  you  once  again.
 
 Just  a  question  is  it  possible  that  the  fronts  that  have  died,  could  be  not  well  the  reason  for  asking  is  the  rest  of  the  gang  is  doing  well  example  eating  and  swimming  around  as  well  
 
 I  have  posted  some  more  snaps  please  give  me  your  feedback  
 
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 HI  Guys,
 
 My  last  question  do  let  know  after  you  have  seen  the  new  snaps  should  I  still  remove  the  coral  sand  
 
 The  reason  being  the  sand  is  20KG  and  for  me  to  move  the  sand  out  I  would  have  to  first  remove  the  fish  and  then  the  sand  
 
 My  concern  is  that  I  may  land  up  stressing  the  fish  once  again  which  I  am  worried  about  since  they  have  already  settled  in  the  tank  since  its  been  11  days  now?
 
 Please  help  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Keeping frontosa Reply with quote

 Hey  Clive,
 I  kept  fish  not  front  though.
 
                                                 
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 The  reason  being  the  sand  is  20KG  and  for  me  to  move  the  sand  out  I  would  have  to  first  remove  the  fish  and  then  the  sand  
 
 My  concern  is  that  I  may  land  up  stressing  the  fish  once  again  which  I  am  worried  about  since  they  have  already  settled  in  the  tank  since  its  been  11  days  now?
                 

 
 But  you  could  that  substrate  change  slowly  or  atleast  partially.  Remove  the  coral  in  phases  in  little  quantity  probablly  during  water  changes.  Later  add  the  sand  after  you  have  removed  coral  completly  OR  partially  if  you  still  want  that  hardness.
 
 That  surely  would  be  less  or  no  stress  on  the  fish.
 I  suppose  all  that  time  your  canister  should  help  take  care  of  bacteria  easily.
 
 For  me  any  fish  that  eats  is  healthy  enough  to  go  through  this  change.  
 
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 Thanks  Saikumar,
 
 will  keep  this  in  mind  while  do  so.
 
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