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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Nikon P90 or Canon SX20IS or Sony HX1 ?? Reply with quote

 Satish,
 
 Good  to  know  you  have  decided  to  buy  a  DSLR  and  sorry  if  the  previous  posts  have  confused  you.  Also  would  like  to  add  that  I  find  the  kit  lens  inadequate  personally,  but  there  may  be  many  out  there  who  find  it  more  than  adequate.  Very  subjective.  Kit  lenses  work  pretty  well  in  good  sunlight.  its  in  lowlight  they  start  failing.
 
   Regarding  Cannon  v/s  Nikon,  i  wont  advise  anything  specific..  Do  your  research  and  compare  the  features  yourself.  Go  to  the  shop  and  hold  both  cameras  in  your  hand  and  check  what  feels  better.  Compare  pictures  these  cameras  take.  Then  decide  for  yourself.  A  nikonian  will  mostly  advice  Nikon  and  a  Cannon  user  might  ask  you  to  buy  a  Cannon.  Put  in  a  bit  of  hardwork  and  decide  yourself.
 
 Regarding  lens  options,  I  can  only  talk  about  the  Nikon  system.  The  best  focal  length  to  have  IMO  would  be  atleast  18-200,  i.e.  if  you  want  a  bit  of  telephoto  with  wide  angle.  But  that  may  stretch  your  budget.  Start  out  with  18-55  and  upgrade  later.
 
 Anyways,  Possible  combos  in  descending  order  of  cost  that  come  to  mind:
 
 1)  Nikon  18-200  mm  VRII  (D300  kit  lens)   -  Most  expensive  option
 2)  Nikon  18-55  +  Nikon  70-300.  
 3)  Nikon  18-105  mm  VR  
 4)  Nikon  18-55  (D3000/D5000  kit  lens)  +  Nikon  55-200.  1/2  the  price  of  option  1.
 
 You  can  get  tamron/sigma  70-300  or  others  for  much  cheaper  than  the  Nikon  70-300.  If  you  buy  one  without  VR/IS  it  will  be  very  cheap.  But  i  dont  advise  telephotos  without  VR/IS.
 If  you  have  stolen  a  bank  or  have  won  a  lottery,  you  can  buy  the  Nikkor  24-70  mm  f2.8  +  70-200  f  2.8  VRII.   Chuckle  
 
 Btw  if  you  want  to  check  out  the  18-105  or  the  18-200  call  me.  We  can  meet  up  on  the  weekend  and  i  can  show  you.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Nikon P90 or Canon SX20IS or Sony HX1 ?? Reply with quote

 My  point  wasn't  to  compare  2  products.   It  was  just  to  put  the  point  clear  on  the  difference  between  a  PS  and  a  DSLR  for  a  given  budget.  
 When  it  comes  to  fish  photography,  i  really  don't  think  we  do  need  a  VR  zoom  lens.   Since  most  of  the  fishes  are  going  to  be  atleast  over  2"  and  a  18-55  Kit  lens  can  almost  get  as  close  as  touching  the  nose  of  a  fish,  you  still  can  come  out  with  all  the  details  whereas  any  zoom  lens  needs  atleast  2.8  ft  inbetween.   So  both  leading  to  almost  same  result  with  fish  photography.   Also  talking  about  cheap  zoom/macro  lenses  without  VR,  it  still  possible  to  get  good  clicks.   Again  comes  to  what  you  can  do.   You  can  always  use  ISO  sensitivity,  flash  &  shutter  to  balance  the  stability  of  your  hand.   Most  pics  of  my  fishes  are  taken  with  a  Sigma  70-300,  hand  held.
 The  bottomline  is,  without  taking  a  cheap  lens/entry  level  DSLR  to  its  limits,  you  will  not  need  a  costlier  lens/camera.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon P90 or Canon SX20IS or Sony HX1 ?? Reply with quote

 I'm  using  a  Nikon  D5000  with  18-105  mm  VR  ED  &  a  70  -  300  mm  VR  ED  lens.  (which  gives  me  a  105-450  mm  range  on  D5000)  so  total  zoom  range  is  18-450mm  which  is  25X  zoom.
 
 It  coasted  me  around  32K  +  17k  +  25k  six  months  back  from  US.  but  it  is  worth  it.
 
 if  you  want  to  reduce  the  cost  further  you  can  go  for  a  D3000  with  kit  lens  +  a  cheap  70  -  300  mm  lens  with  macro  option  from  Sigma  or  tamaron
 
 same  applies  for  Canon  EOS1000  D  also.  (  that  would  be  the  cheapest  option  among  the  three)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon P90 or Canon SX20IS or Sony HX1 ?? Reply with quote

 In  fish  photography...  Why  we  forget  Lighting  ?  Thats  makes  photo  remarkable.  ¬†With  my  PS  i  always  miss  lighting  though  i  am  looking  for  DSLR  in  future.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon P90 or Canon SX20IS or Sony HX1 ?? Reply with quote

 I  have  researched  about  the  entry  level  DSLR  from  both  canon  and  nikon  and  found  out  a  few  points  highlighted  by  most  sites  D3000  doesn't  have  a  live  view  whereas  1000D  has  one  and  secondly  D3000  has  11  point  focus  compared  to  7  on  1000D.  How  much  does  it  affect  the  performance  for  cameras  if  we  miss  live  view  or  more  focus  points  (guess  live  view  might  be  reqd  to  click  a  snap  over  our  eye  level  as  in  raising  hands  still  able  to  know  whats  coming  on  frame  but  not  clear  about  more  focus  points)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon P90 or Canon SX20IS or Sony HX1 ?? Reply with quote

 Very  well  said  Maulik!
 
 Madhu,  those  are  golden  words  Very Happy  
 
 SNadar,
    A  DSLR  would  be  my  recommendation  since  it  does  not  limit  you  in  any  way  (lens,  lighting,etc)
 Glass  quality  rules  supreme  more  than  the  body  itself.  Most  of  today's  entry  level  bodies  are  pretty  good.
 
 All  the  best.
 
 Cheers,
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