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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Can  I  directly  put  bore  water  (underground  water)  into  my  planted  aquarium.  Usually  I  keep  the  water  in  a  25lt  bottle  and  change  the  water.
 
 If  I  need  to  put  the  water  directly,  do  I  need  to  do  any  water  testing?  If  yes,  what  test  and  what  should  I  test  for?
 Is  there  any  test  kit?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 Hi,
 My  experience  here  at  my  residence  was  a  failure.  Was  using  it  for  a  month  in  my  then  old  tank  (about  3yrs  back),  the  then  ph  was  around  6.7.  By  the  end  of  the  month  the  river  gravel  started  turning  copperish  in  colour,  lost  two  small  angels.  It  must  have  been  iron  deposit  in  the  water,  though  didn't  check  other  parameters.  Now  use  tap  and  sometimes  rain  water.
 But,  water  parameters  in  bore  wells  differs  in  all  areas.  You  might  be  successful.  But  best  test  the  water  for  heavy  mineral  deposits  and  ........  experts  help  me,  I  am  at  a  loss  now.  Was  just  sharing  my  experience.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 What  substrate  are  you  using  ?
 What  plants  do  you  have?  intend  to  keep  ?
 
 That  will  make  a  big  difference.
 
 Borewell  water  in  Koramangala  is  medium  hard  water,  TDS  of  about  480,
 KH  of  16-18,  pH  of  8.5  when  measured  after  aerating  the  water  for  a  while.
 Your  borewell  may  be  different.
 So  you  will  be  running  your  tank  at  a  pH  of  about  7.5  even  with
 pressurised  CO2  injection.
 
 This  is  trouble  if  you  use  ADA  substrate,  have  HC,  and  some  other  plants.
 Is  Cauvery  water  a  problem  at  your  place?  I  live  in  Koramangala  and  we  have  been
 getting  more  than  enough  Cauvery  water  always.
 
 Plants  will  spend  least  energy  to  use  CO2  when  the  pH  is  below  7,  6.5  ~  6.8  is  a  good  range.
 To  reduce  the  pH  to  this  level  with  CO2  injection  you  have  to  begin,  with  soft  water.
 
 Plants  will  grow  in  any  water,  but  what  you  can  grow  and  how  fast  they  will  grow  will  vary.
 
 Keeping  borewell  water  in  a  bottle  overnight  is  good  practice,  it'll  get  rid  of  any  gases  dissolved  in  the  water
 mainly  CO2,  but  it  doesn't  help  in  any  other  way.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Madan  Sir,
 
 What  substrate  are  you  using  ?  
 
 River  sand  at  the  bottom  and  Controsoil  at  top
 
 What  plants  do  you  have?  intend  to  keep  ?  
 
 
    Anubias
     Bolbitis
     Cabomba
     Cryptocoryne
     Rotala  (Red  and  Green)
     Vallisneria
     Dwarf  Hair  Grass
     Christmas  moss
     Java  Fern  (very  small)

 What  plants  do  you  intend  to  keep  ?  
 
 
    HC
     Some  more  moss

 I  live  in  Koramangala  1st  block.  I  dont  have  Cauvery  connection  in  my  building     Sad   Sad  
 Very  soon,  I  will  be  fixing  pressurized  CO2  setup  too.   Smile   Very Happy  
 
 I  think  initially  I  need  to  check  the  ph  level  of  the  water.  Am  I  right?   Confused   If,  then  how  do  I  maintain  the  ph  level  of  the  water?  Right  now  I  store  the  water  in  the  25lt  bottle  and  then  change  it.  My  planted  tank  is  135lt.  So  changing  25lt  every  week  will  be  sufficient?   Huh  
 
 Please  Help   Help  me  in  this  matter.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 Koramangala  1st  Block,  and  no  Cauvery  water,  I  live  in  first  block  and  find  this  surprising.  
 Anyway.
 
 HC  needs  soft  water,  you  might  as  well  forget  it.
 
 Rest  of  the  plants  will  do  ok.
 
 You'll  need  to  check  the  Kh  of  the  water.  Test  kit  for  Kh  is  available  in  any  aquarium  store.
 Then  look  up  the  Kh  -  pH  -  CO2  chart.  Google.
 
 Try  to  get  your  CO2  to  about  25  ppm.  The  pH  reading  from  the  chart  will  tell  you  when
 you  have  that  amount  of  CO2  in  the  water.
 
 Any  other  compounds  leeching  from  the  substrate  (contrasoil  I  have  no  idea  about)  
 will  affect  the  pH  and  drive  your  CO2  readings  to  error.
 
 You  want  hands  on  stuff?  then  run  your  CO2  at  2-3  bubbles  per  second,  24  x  7
 and  forget  about  testing  and  spending  more  money  on  unreliable  test  kits.  Chuckle  
 
 25  liters  water  change  per  week  is  Ok,  as  long  as  it  is  regularly  done.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 @  madan  
 
 can  we  simply  say..high  pH  =  high  KH  =  high  GH
 
 so  lower  the  pH  less  harder  water..?  can  we  make  this  as  a  general  rule?  so  if  test  kits  are  not  available  in  emergency  just  measuring  pH  will  give  idea  about  hardness..
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 Hi
 
 So  can  I  put  the  bore  water  directly  into  my  aquarium  and  run  CO2  24/7  with  2-3  bubbles  as  suggested  by  madan  sir?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 I  use  borewell  water  and  directly  pour  it  in  the  tank.....no  issues  so  far....but  yes  the  borewell  water  might  be  staying  in  the  overhead  tank  of  our  apartment  for  some  time  but  not  more  than  6-7  hrs  i  would  say.....
 
 i  even  have  a  HC  carpet  in  my  nano  on  ADA.....
 
 I  change  50%  water  every  week.
 
 with  pressurized  CO2  and  nutrient  substrate  borewell  water  should  not  be  problem  for  plants  atleast.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 I  use  1/3  borewell  water  and  2/3  tap  water.  No  problems  so  far.  You  might  have  to  use  a  dechlorinator  that  removes  heavy  metals  though
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

 Niranjan  I  wouldn't  make  that  assumption  blindly.
 I'd  test  the  water  once.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Using bore water directly in planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
niroo  wrote  (View  Post):                
@  madan  
 
 can  we  simply  say..high  pH  =  high  KH  =  high  GH
 
 so  lower  the  pH  less  harder  water..?  can  we  make  this  as  a  general  rule?  so  if  test  kits  are  not  available  in  emergency  just  measuring  pH  will  give  idea  about  hardness..                

 
 This  is  somewhat  true,  but  should  not  be  seen  as  a  genralised  rule......
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