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New tank set up - Hair Algae

 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 Hello  Everyone,
 
 I  replanted  my  new  tank  few  weeks  back  with  Glosso,  Rotalas,  anubias,Crypts,  Star  grass  and  some  others.
 
 I  initally  found  some  algae  (looks  like  hair  algae,  but  i  am  not  sure  what  type  of  algae  is  this)  on  the  Glosso,  so  i  started  trimming  off  the  algae  leaves  whenver  i  find  time  also  during  water  change.  Now,  I  notice  that  it  is  spreading  across  slowly  on  the  other  plants  as  well.  I  googled  about  this  and  could  not  conclude  on  what  actually  the  problem  is.   Would  you  please  help  me  /  give  your  suggestions  to  correct  this  problem  ?  
 
 Thanks  a  lot  in  Advance.
 
 
 Please  find  the  links  to  the  pictures  here  and  few  pictures  attached  below:
 
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/eImsX3bre8vtknedGlZKgqluWPrSF60LOoIkIy9uZBs?feat=directlink
 
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/AyWbG3FeSufcoykfuR6G36luWPrSF60LOoIkIy9uZBs?feat=directlink
 
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/MCbl6B_HwXBGelynFSpBHKluWPrSF60LOoIkIy9uZBs?feat=directlink
 
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/hrqsHrWWyXFwBdcJJKdtyaluWPrSF60LOoIkIy9uZBs?feat=directlink
 
 http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/wfhwLajcFajtOK0ZgnccvKluWPrSF60LOoIkIy9uZBs?feat=directlink
 
 
 Tank  specifications  are  here:
 
 Substrate  :  ADA  
 Size  :  4  x  1.5  x  1.5
 Lights  :  T5  HO  54Wx4  -  6  hours  daily
 Filter  :  Eiehm  2215
 CO2     :  5-6  bubbles/sec  
 Macros  :  As  per  chuck's  measurement  -  Weekly  once  after  water  change
 CSM  +B     :   7  ml(  30  grams  dissolved  in  476ml)   -  Daily
 Iron            :   7  ml  (35  grams  dissolved  in  476  ml)  -  0.2  ppm  Iron  -  Daily
 Water  change  :  50%  weekly  once
 
 Thanks.
 
 With  Regards,
 Nazeem.  A
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 Nazeem  -  Add  lot  of  fast  growing  stem  plants  and  keep  up  with  the  water  changes.  Algae  will  soon  be  gone.
 
 Just  ensure  you  have  a  stable  supply  of  Co2.  Incase  your  using  a  solenoid,  remove  it  and  keep  it  on  24/7.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 Your  light  is  way  too  high,  reduce  it  to  two  numbers  T5  HO  and  that  should  solve  the  issue.
 
 Cheers
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 Thanks  a  lot  Prem  and  Vince  for  your  suggestions.
 
 I  added  lots  of  stem  plants  last  week.  Attached  few  latest  pictures  of  the  tank  below.
 
 I  have  now  changed  the  water  (50%)  and  added  Micros  and  also  let  the  CO2  run  24/7  .  
 
 Should  continue  dosing  CSM+B  and  Iron  ?
 
 Also,  Could  you  please  let  me  know  if  I  should  reduce  the  light  as  well  ?  
 
 Thanks.
 
 With  Regards,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 hi,
 
    your  filter  capacity  is  also  a  factor.  u  need  to  increase  the  circulation.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 HI  Nazeem,
 
 I  have  also  encountered  the  hair  algae  problems  in  2  of  my  new  tanks.  Both  tanks  are  small.  15  inches,  by  14  inches  by  12  inches.  One  has  HC  and  the  other  has  HG  and  blyxa  japonica.  Each  is  approximately  10  gallons.  CO2  is  around  45  ppm  and  I  dose  Ferka  fertilizers  each  week.  Presently  there  are  no  fish.  
 
 I  used  H2O2  to  kill  off  the  algae.  What  I  did  was  add  5  ml  of  20  volume  H2O2  (the  ones  that  you  can  easily  get  in  a  chemist  shop)  into  each  of  the  tank  with  a  syringe.  After  another  12  hours  I  dosed  another  5  ml  into  each  of  the  tanks.  Within  48  hours  the  hair  algae  started  dying  and  turning  white.  In  2  more  days  the  entire  hair  algae  had  died  and  melted  away.  
 
 It  worked  for  me  and  it  should  work  for  you  too.  Since  it  does  not  contain  any  chemicals  (copper  etc),  it  is  not  dangerous  in  the  long  run.  H2O2  will  stabilize  back  to  water  and  oxygen  over  a  4  hour  period.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Vijay.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 Vijay....does  dosing  with  H2O2  affect  your  fish  or  inverts?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 Thank  you  Vijay.  Will  this  affect  fishes  and  shrimps  ?
 
 Hi  Prem  and  Vince,
 
 Could  you  please  advise  on  the  lights  and  Dosing  ?  Thanks  a  lot.
 
 With  Regards,
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 H2O2  is  only  a  temp  solution,  you  have  to  tackle  the  root  cause.
 
 Are  you  not  dosing  Macros?  Is  CO2  30ppm?
 
 Here  is  a  LINK  on  how  to  dose  nutrients.
 
 I  suggested  to  reduce  light  as  with  high  light,  the  plant  demand  for  nutrients  are  more  and  any  slight  imbalances  is  gonna  end  in  algae.
 
 Use  to  a  drop  checker  as  a  CO2  indicator  than  bubbles  per  second.
 
 Cheers
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 @Zakk  and  @  Baby.
 
 I  do  not  have  any  fish  or  invert  in  both  of  these  tanks.  The  CO2  is  almost  45  ppm.  I  am  blasting  the  tank  with  CO2  so  that  the  plants  grow  like  crazy  and  are  established.  Once  that  is  done  in  a  months  time,  i  shall  reduce  the  CO2  to  around  25  ppm  levels  and  introduce  the  fish  and  the  inverts.  Planning  on  RCS,  Amano  shrimps  and  Cherry  barbs  in  one  tank  and  Mountain  minnows  in  the  other.
 
 What  the  H2O2  does  is  it  takes  out  the  hair  algae.  Once  that  is  clean  and  the  plants  have  settled  down  and  the  inverts  are  introduced  and  with  proper  dosing  of  ferts,  the  root  cause  (nutrient  imblance)  would  be  taken  care  of.  This  approach  helps  when  you  have  algae  hitch  hiking  with  the  plants  for  any  new  setup.  
 
 But  have  read  that  for  fish  this  dosing  levels  does  not  do  any  harm,  but  have  to  be  careful  with  the  inverts.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Vijay.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: New tank set up - Hair Algae Reply with quote

 A  few  Queries
 
 
    Aren’t  you  under  filtered?
     Were  you  changing  water  more  frequently  at  the  beginning?
     You  are  dosing  Phosphate  and  Nitrate  into  a  newly  set  up  ADA  AS  II  tank?
     Is  your  reactor  big  enough  to  handle  the  5-6  BPS  that  you  are  pumping  in,  or  is  it  belching  CO2  bubbles  from  the  outlet?  {Is  that  CO2  reactor  a  Dymax  DF  101?}
     Is  the  outflow  from  the  reactor  distributed  evenly  in  the  tank?
     Wouldnt  it  be  better  to  split  the  dosing  of  Macros  into  twice  or  thrice  per  week?

 
 May  be  dumb  queries,  but  these  things  crossed  my  mind  when  I  read  your  post
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