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Anuradha
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 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: Aphanius dispar |
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Hello,
The species Aphanius dispar has been recorded from Western India. I did find a few specimens of Aphanius in Uttara Kannada (Karnataka) but I think these are not 'naturally' found there, because I did not find it in any of my subsequent samplings. It is quite likely that these were some introduced individuals (either from local aquaria or for malaria control)..
So the best place to find these (I think) might be streams from Western India (Gujarat).
Best Wishes
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Aphanius Dispar |
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Thanks Anuradha for that information about Aphanius that you collected in Karnataka back around 1999, which is very helpful.
Aquarist from Karnataka can now relax as it is no longer necessary to cast your nets into the rivers & streams looking for Aphanius, although I suppose that some introduced Aphanius killis might persist at some localities
However, if you are at your local fish shop, please check to see if any are stocking Aphanius dispar.
Kind regards,
Iggy
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aquascapes
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Sunil, atleast tell me by what name was the LFS selling the fish? |
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aquascapes
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Iggy this might be music to your ears!
I have one positive confirmation from the fishermen who promised to get some specimen fish for us to confirm - What is the desiarable quantity you want?
He'll take some time though in getting the fish |
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iggy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: Indian Aphanius dispar |
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That is good news Aquascapes.
Look forward to seeing an image of the wild Indian Aphanius dispar in the next few weeks.
Herman Meeus will get in touch with you through this forum on Monday, regarding numbers of fish, etc.
Thank you for all the hard work that you have put in, which has included visits to the University, the Hospital and no doubt loads of phone calls, etc.
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Jet
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Aquascapes.
The LFS where i saw these fish was at Kansara Kaka's place (Fish Fair) in the old city.
Iggy
Will try and get more info on this fish and try and find out where i can get them.
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aquascapes
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Sunil does 'kaka' keep marines? I've not met him since the last year's exibition so don't know anyways, will get in touch with him - please tell me what is it sold as - the common name? |
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iggy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Indian Aphanius dispar |
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Hello Aquascapes,
Are there any exporters based in Gujarat (Ahmedabad) who might be able to airfreight the Indian Aphanius dispar to Europe when we reach that stage?
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aquascapes
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| At least I don't know any one doing that kind of a thing - I'll check though>but why don't you talk to your old guy who has done it for you earlier? I don't promise you something there but will surely try! |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: Air Freight of Indian Aphanius dispar to Europe |
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Can any one kindly recommend an Indian Company that exports fish to Europe that might be willing to deal with 100 Indian Aphanius dispar fish?
Ideally the exporter should be based in Gujarat. Mumbai or Delhi are also good as these have direct flights to Europe. I have noticed that most exporters are based in Kolkata or Chennai? This would put several extra hours on fish in bags.
I suppose the above is a question for the Aquarium Gurus but any suggestions are welcome.
We haven't yet got the Gujarati Aphanius dispar in "our hands", but I feel that we should be planning for the transport now rather than waiting until the killifish are located and caught.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| Not to be rude, but, why would a hobbyist need a 100 specimens? This is larger than many commercial shipments. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: Transport of Indian Aphanius dispar to Europe |
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Hi Beta,
Thank you very much for the names of those two companies.
They both have nice websites.
Herman or I will get in touch with them and see how things go.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hello retro_gk,
Fair question.
Although Herman will keep a few of the Indian Aphanius dispar for the hobby, most of the fish will go to Dr Reichenbacher at University of Munich. She is doing a comparative research study in otoliths of Aphanius from various locations. Herman Meeus has been asked to provide Aphanius dispar from different localities in sufficient numbers. This species is found from the Red Sea to India where (long ago) a species was described as Cyprinodon stoliczkanus. Later it was considered a synonym of Aphanius dispar. The fact that once it has been considered as a species and that it lives at the edge of the distribution of the species makes it an interesting fish to study. In order to perform her otoliths study, Dr Reichenbacher needs about 20 to 30 live specimen of this fish.
Whether one transports 40 fish or a 100 fish makes little difference to the final cost, since transport is going to be the major cost.
Also one has to make allowances for some losses during travel and aclimatisation.
Hoping that we will be successful in bringing some of the Indian Apahanius dispar to Europe.
Best wishes,
Iggy
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retro_gk
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If they are for scientific research, wouldn't it be better to acquire them through the proper (offical/academic) channels?
I'm sorry, but, I do not approve of large numbers of a fish, whose status in the wild is unknown, being removed. |
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