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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: Salt Mix Substitute...... Reply with quote

 i  guess  there's  already  a  thread  on  this  topic...but  still  my  question  is.....Can  the  sea  salt  mix  be  substituted  with  anything  else  like  normal  rock  salt  or  sumthing....has  anyone  tried  it????  and  how  is  normal  rock  salt  different??????  bacause  considering  the  price  difference  it  would  be  very  convenient  to  use  rock  salt....also  what  if  we  start  our  tank  wit  rock  salt  and  then  keep  adding  the  salt  mix  when  we  do  water  changes????
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 Salt  mix  and  synthetic  sea  water  has  a  specific  formula  and  you  will  be  amazed  what  all  goes  in  the  making  of  a  good  quality  reef  salt  mix  -  (we  call  it  salt  mix  and  not  just  salt).
 The  next  best  option  is  to  use  natural  sea  water  from  a  beach  in  paradise  Chuckle
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 Dr  Mozart,
 
 The  thread  you  mention  gives  the  details  of  why  Rock  salt  cannot  be  used  and  why  we  should  go  for  the  salt  mix.....  that  answers  your  question  in  the  best  way..........    Smile
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 aquascapes  u  r  frm  gujarat.....i  guess  u  have  saltpans  overthere.....have  u  ever  experimented  wit  that  stuff???
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 are  you  nuts!
 No  way  am  I  going  to  be  that  foolish
 
 Just  look  at  them  -  how  can  I  even  think  of  experimenting  with  them!
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 HI,
 
     you  can  make  sea  water  by  adding  the  following  chemicalls.For  making  1  lit.sea  water
 
     sodium  chloride(salt)          28.8gms.
   magnesium  chloride              4.2gms.
 sodium  sulphate                          4.56gms.
 calcium  chloride                          1.32gms
 pottassium  chloride                0.75gms
 sodium  bicarbonate              0.24gms.
 pottassium  bromide                0.12gms.
 boric  acid                                            0.003gms.
 strontium  carbonate              0.008gms.
 sodium  silicate                            0.008gms.
 pottasium  iodide                      0.001gms.
 Add  these  chemicals  in  1lit.water&  mix  it  thoroughly.You  can  make  sea  water  cheaper  than  salt  mix.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: salt water Reply with quote

                                                   
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HI,
 
     you  can  make  sea  water  by  adding  the  following  chemicalls.For  making  1  lit.sea  water
 
     sodium  chloride(salt)          28.8gms.
   magnesium  chloride              4.2gms.
 sodium  sulphate                          4.56gms.
 calcium  chloride                          1.32gms
 pottassium  chloride                0.75gms
 sodium  bicarbonate              0.24gms.
 pottassium  bromide                0.12gms.
 boric  acid                                            0.003gms.
 strontium  carbonate              0.008gms.
 sodium  silicate                            0.008gms.
 pottasium  iodide                      0.001gms.
 Add  these  chemicals  in  1lit.water&  mix  it  thoroughly.You  can  make  sea  water  cheaper  than  salt  mix.                

 did  you  give  it  a  try?  If  yes  with  what  fish  and  inverts  in  the  tank  and  what  is  your  opinion  on  the  formula?
 These  kind  of  mixes  are  good  for  testing  the  effect  of  sea-water  on  different  construction  and  industrial  products  -  NOT  FOR  SEA-LIFE
 I  can  give  you  a  loooooooooong  list  of  trace  elements  that  are  missing  in  your  formula!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: salt water mix Reply with quote

 Aquascape,
 
 
       It  is  not  for  construction  or  industrial  purpose.Millions  of  prawn  larvae  (scampi)  are  proudcing  in  some  hatcheries  by  the  artificial  sea  water.Prawn  larvae  are  more  delicate  than  marine  fishes&inverts.you  can  add  more  trace  metals.I  used  this  artificial  sea  water  for  my  40  gal.marine  tank  for  8  months  without  any  harm.Now  iam  not  maintaing  that  tank
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 I'll  still  need  more  statistical  data  to  get  convinced
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 Hey  what  do  the  experts  think  about  this  salt  mix?
 
 Anybody  tried  it  or  think  it's  worth  the  gamble?
 
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 Sure.....
 All  commercial  salt  mixes  somewhat  similar  ingredients.
 Trace  elements  can  be  subsitiuted  with  the  help  of  bottled  mixes..such  as  waterlife.
 I  currently  have  1  yellow  tang,  2  purple  tang  and  1  small  clown  trigger  in  my  own  salt  water..all  doing  fine.
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 Vidul  the  point  in  Knock  our  brains  is  to  bring  the  cost  factor  down  -  if  you  start  adding  other  bottled  ingredients  -  we  would  end  up  spending  almost  the  same  amount  of  money!
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 But  nauzer  if  one  is  keeping  only  a  Fish  only  setup,  it  wont  matter  whether  trace  elements  are  present,  right?
 Unless  inverts  are  kept,  how  would  it  affect  the  fish?
 
 And  how  much  does  trace  elements  bottle  cost  anyway?  Afterall  its  'trace'  elements,  so  we  wont  be  needing  bottles  and  bottles  of  it  right?
 
 Just  my  opinion,
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 I  agree  with  you  guys  that  synthetic  sea  water  can  be  made  it  is  just  that  I  want  some  statistical  proof  from  someone  who's  used  a  particular  formula  for  an  extended  period  of  time  with  success  -  just  keeping  fish  in  a  saline  solution  for  a  couple  of  months  is  not  success  -  it  is  what  was  the  Gh  and  pH  of  the  water  when  mixed  -  water  parameter  test  results  at  everyday  intervals  for  a  couple  of  months  to  make  sure  that  the  salt-mix  that  we  are  using  is  stable  and  reliable  -  submit  these  test  results  and  I  will  definately  think  over  it!
 Now-a-days  even  reputed  salt  mixes  are  not  very  exp.  and  1kg  can  make  30ltrs.  what  else  do  we  want?
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 How  much  does  1Kg  of  Salt  Mix  costs??
 
 If  the  mix  stated  by  Fishcos  is  going  to  workout  well  and  cheap....  that  would  be  a  real  gift..........
 
 Fishcos,  How  much  does  your  cost  comes  euivalent  to  1  Kg  of  Salt  Mix  (i.e  for  30  lts  of  sea  water)?
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