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 Can  someone  please  tell  me  how  to  have  crystal  clear  water  in  the  aquarium  ?
 
 i  have  an  Atman  filter.  it  seems  to  be  doin  gits  job....for  2  days...then  the  water  turns  green  and  cloudy...i  also  have  a  UGF  system.  neither  are  effective.  ther  are  lots  of  plants  and  about  27  fishes.    Crying or Very sad
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 27!!!  thats  sounds  toooo  many  Surprised  
 btw  how  big  is  your  tank  &  which  fishes  inside?
 With  UGF,  u  never  gonna  get  crystal  clear  water.
 Always  select  powerfilter  compatible  to  tank  size  &  fishes.
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 is  the  tank  located  near  window  and  is  it  getting  direct  sunlight  ?
 
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Can  someone  please  tell  me  how  to  have  crystal  clear  water  in  the  aquarium  ?
 
 i  have  an  Atman  filter.  it  seems  to  be  doin  gits  job....for  2  days...then  the  water  turns  green  and  cloudy...i  also  have  a  UGF  system.  neither  are  effective.  ther  are  lots  of  plants  and  about  27  fishes.    Crying or Very sad                

 
 I've  had  crystal  clear  water  even  without  a  filter  in  my  tank..  and  that  too  with  sand  substrate  ...  the  cloudiness  usually  settles  down  in  a  day  or  two..  u  have  not  mentioned  how  big  (or  small,  considering  the  number  of  fish  u  have  in  it)  your  tank  is..  and  wht  kind  of  filter  u  are  using,  where  it  is  positioned..  and  wht  fish  u  have  in  it  ..  and  the  source  of  light...  those  details  help  a  lot  when  u  want  an  answer..  pls  do  that..  i'm  sure  someone  will  help  u..  all  the  best..
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Can  someone  please  tell  me  how  to  have  crystal  clear  water  in  the  aquarium  ?
 
 i  have  an  Atman  filter.  it  seems  to  be  doin  gits  job....for  2  days...then  the  water  turns  green  and  cloudy...i  also  have  a  UGF  system.  neither  are  effective.  ther  are  lots  of  plants  and  about  27  fishes.    Crying or Very sad                

 
 I've  had  crystal  clear  water  even  without  a  filter  in  my  tank..  and  that  too  with  sand  substrate  ...  the  cloudiness  usually  settles  down  in  a  day  or  two..  u  have  not  mentioned  how  big  (or  small,  considering  the  number  of  fish  u  have  in  it)  your  tank  is..  and..  and  wht  fish  u  have  in  it  ..  and  the  source  of  light...  those  details  help  a  lot  when  u  want  an  answer..  pls  do  that..  i'm  sure  someone  will  help  u..  all  the  best..
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With  UGF,  u  never  gonna  get  crystal  clear  water.                

 Sorry,  Yog,  I  disagree  with  this  -  a  good  ugf  with  sufficient  water  circulation  is  a  blessing  to  keep  the  aquarium  water  crystal  clear!  -  It  is  a  different  story  that  I  don't  recommend  the  use  of  ugf  with  plants!
 I  would  like  to  know  your  maintanence  schedule  aquaflyer  before  I  suggest  something


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 Hi
 The  problems  in  your  tank  seem  to  be  of  a  very  high  fish  load.
 Green  water  means  excess  of  nutrients  in  your  water  in  which  algae  are  growing.
 Cloudy  water  again  means  high  dissloved  organic  contents  or  overfeeding.
 This  problem  cannot  be  alone  handled  by  filter  only.  Try  to  solve  the  problem  at  its  very  root.
 No  amount  of  filteration  can  correct  these  problems  untill  &  unless  basic  causes  are  taken  care  of
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 pls  give  details  about  your  tank  -  how  big,  how  long  it  is  running?  which  fishes?  and  which  plants?  how  much  light?  do  you  feed  CO2?  is  there  any  direct  sunlight  falling  upon  the  tank?
 
 a  lot  of  question  needs  to  be  answered.  basically  in  a  new  uncycled  tank  with  high  fishload  and  lots  of  plants  and  low  light  you  may  experience  algae.  because  the  algae  may  outcompete  the  plants  and  absorb  all  the  nutrients  in  a  low  light  condition.
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 Aquaflyer,  you  there?
 People  giving  suggestion  FOR  YOU!
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 Had  used  UGF  long  back  for  my  2  feeter  but  never  got  crystal  clear  water.  
 
 I  think  his  tank  is  too  crowded  with  27  fishes.  Also  overfeeding  might  be  the  cause  for  cloudiness.  
 
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Aquaflyer,  you  there?
 People  giving  suggestion  FOR  YOU!
   Knock                

 
 i  was  not  able  to  access  IAH  for  a  few  days  and  had  thought  the  site  is  permanently  down.  good  to  see  it  back.  
 
 thank  u  guys  for  alkl  the  suggestions.....
 
 my  tank  is  3  ft  x  1.5  x  1.5  feet.  i  have  27  fishes  total.  all  are  tetras.  diff  varities.  i  feed  the  fishes  a  pinch  of  dried  blood  worms  once  a  day.  tank  is  heavily  planted.  not  kept  near  window.  two  27  watts  cfls  .  25  %  WC  every  alternate  days.  this  keeps  the  tetras,  specially  neons  happy.  oh  i  have  asnail  too  but  its  not  much  help.  i  have  lake  soil  and  red  sand  mix  as  the  base  and  then  5  mm  to  10  mm  gravel  on  top  of  them.  two  DIY  yeast  co2  gens.  i  used  to  add  commercially  available  micro  and  macro  nutrients.  now  i  stopped  for  a  few  weeks  because  of  the  alge.  plantsa  are  happy.  only  problem  is  green  water  Sad
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cokeamod  wrote:                
Aquaflyer,  you  there?
 People  giving  suggestion  FOR  YOU!
   Knock                

 
 i  was  not  able  to  access  IAH  for  a  few  days  and  had  thought  the  site  is  permanently  down.  good  to  see  it  back.  
 
 thank  u  guys  for  alkl  the  suggestions.....
 
 my  tank  is  3  ft  x  1.5  x  1.5  feet.  i  have  27  fishes  total.  all  are  tetras.  diff  varities.  i  feed  the  fishes  a  pinch  of  dried  blood  worms  once  a  day.  tank  is  heavily  planted.  not  kept  near  window.  two  27  watts  cfls  .  25  %  WC  every  alternate  days.  this  keeps  the  tetras,  specially  neons  happy.  oh  i  have  asnail  too  but  its  not  much  help.  i  have  lake  soil  and  red  sand  mix  as  the  base  and  then  5  mm  to  10  mm  gravel  on  top  of  them.  two  DIY  yeast  co2  gens.  i  used  to  add  commercially  available  micro  and  macro  nutrients.  now  i  stopped  for  a  few  weeks  because  of  the  alge.  plantsa  are  happy.  only  problem  is  green  water  Sad
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 Hi
 In  my  opinion  25%  water  change  on  alternate  days  is  not  required.  In  a  planted  tank  water  change  frequency  should  be  even  less.
 How  old  is  this  tank.  If  less  than  2  months  tank  would  be  still  cycling.
 Let  your  tank  stablise  a  bit,  stop  adding  fertilizers,  co2  for  some  days.
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 I'd  still  advise  you  to  take  your  UGF  off  the  planted  tank  -  how  do  you  change  the  water  -  do  you  use  gravel  vac?
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aquascapes  wrote:                
I'd  still  advise  you  to  take  your  UGF  off  the  planted  tank  -  how  do  you  change  the  water  -  do  you  use  gravel  vac?                

 
 I  agree  with  aquascapes  that  having  good  plant  growth  with  UGF  will  be  a  problem.
 Plants  need  Co2,  light,  fertilizers  for  photosyenthesis  which  leads  to  growth.
 They  also  need  metals  like  iron  etc  for  good  growth,  many  of  these  are  taken  from  water  colum  as  well  as  from  substrate.
 Most  of  the  metals  in  substrate  are  in  a  form  which  cannot  be  used  by  plants  as  such.  In  the  substrate  there  are  anarobic  conditions  in  which  bacteria  break  down  these  metals  into  froms  which  can  be  taken  up  by  plants.
 UGF  circulates  O2  in  the  substrate  which  makes  it  very  aerobic  in  nature  and  the  decompostion  does  not  take  place.
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