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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:20 am Post subject: Project Low-Tech (UPDATE - 19/04/2011) Reply with quote

 Hey  guys,  
 
 I  am  having  a  tank,  not  sure  if  its  okay  to  call  it  high  tech,  but  yeah  with  CO2  and  EI  dosing  and  weekly  water  changes.  
 I  will  be  moving  out  of  my  current  place.  So  won't  be  able  to  maintain  it  at  all.  Also  my  parents  and  sister  won't  maintain  it.  
 So  will  I  be  able  to  convert  my  tank  to  a  low  tech  ie.  non  CO2,  low  light,  no  dosing  every  day  and  water  changes  once  a  month?  
 
 Here  are  my  tank  specs  -
 
 Size  -  2.5  (l)  x  1  (d)  x  1.5  (h)  feet
 
 Capacity  -  28  gallons
 
 Filtration  -  Eheim  2213  and  Azoo  internal  filter  for  water  current.
 
 Lighting  -  3  x  24W  T5HO  on  for  7  hours
 
 Substrate  -  ADA  Aquasoil  Amazonia  II
 
 CO2  -  Pressurized  @  2  BPS  turns  on  and  off  with  lights
 
 Fertilizers  -  KNO3  +  KH2PO4  +  K2SO4  for  macros  and  Microsol  -  B  for  micros.  EI  dosing  system.  
 
 Flora  -  Staurogyne  Sp.,  Hygrophila  Polysperma,  Java  Moss,  Java  Fern  and  Anubias  Barteri
 
 Fauna  -  RCS,  Guppies
 
 Tank  Pics  -  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Few  questions  -
 
 1.  How  do  I  convert  this  setup  into  a  low  tech  low  maintenance  setup?  (low  light,  no  cot,  no  dosing,  few  water  changes)
 
 2.  Will  all  these  plants  live  in  low  tech  conditions?  
 
 3.  How  many  days  will  I  need  to  convert  this  tank  to  a  fully  low  tech  setup?
 
 4.  What  should  be  the  lighting  for  a  low  tech  setup?  
 
 Seriously  need  help.
 
 Thank  You  in  advance.  
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech Reply with quote

 i  doubt  whether  Staurogyne  Sp  would  survive  in  low  tech.  It  needs  a  decent  amount  of  light  and  CO2  is  a  must  otherwise  the  edges  of  the  leaves  starts  to  show  colours,  it  happenened  in  my  tank  and  after  a  CO2  tweak  the  plants  were  great.
 
 to  convert  your  tank  into  a  low  tech  just  reduce  the  wattage  of  your  light,  stop  dosing  CO2  and  fertilizers.  and  regarding  water  changes  i  think  a  month  is  a  very  long  gap  may  be  weekly  should  be  considered.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech Reply with quote

 actually  i  read  on  a  lot  of  sites  that  it  does  well  in  low  lights  and  non-co2  tanks.
 
 what  should  be  my  lighting  for  low  tech?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech Reply with quote

 Hey  Neil...  what  happened???  I  was  waiting  to  see  the  final  growth  of  your  awesome  foreground.  Anyway,  If  you  want  to  reduce  the  maintenance,  then  reduce  the  photoperiod  to  4-5hrs  max.  Dose  just  once  or  twice  a  week.  Go  easy  with  Nitrates  and  phosphate.  Keep  changing  water  once  everyweek.  Thats  it.  
 
 Make  sure,  CO2  is  running  and  the  BPS  is  constant.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech Reply with quote

 @  Tirtha  C
 
 actually  i  will  be  shifting  to  a  different  location.  so  won't  be  able  to  maintain  this  tank.  
 
 is  there  any  way  i  can  convert  this  into  a  non  co2  setup.  because  i  was  planning  to  take  away  the  CO2  with  me  and  make  another  attempt  at  Iwagumi  :P
 
 and  yeah  even  i  was  waiting  for  the  tank  to  mature.  but  have  to  make  the  changes.  Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech Reply with quote

 UPDATE-
 
 Hey  guys,  
 
 Finally  managed  to  convert  my  tank  into  almost  low  tech  tank.
 
 Here  are  my  updated  tank  specs  -
 
 Size  -  2.5  (l)  x  1  (d)  x  1.5  (h)  feet
 
 Capacity  -  28  gallons
 
 Filtration  -  Eheim  2213  (*  Removed  the  Azoo  Internal  Filter)
 
 Lighting  -  2  x  24W  T5HO  on  for  9  hours  (*  Removed  1  x  24W  T5HO)
 
 Substrate  -  ADA  Aquasoil  Amazonia  II
 
 CO2  -  Pressurized  @  1  BPS  turns  on  and  off  with  lights  (*  Reduced  from  2.5  BPS)
 
 WC  -  Water  change  10%  every  2  weeks.  (*  Reduced  from  weekly  50%  WC)
 
 Fertilizers  -  Half  the  recommended  amounts  of  KNO3  +  KH2PO4  +  K2SO4  for  macros  and  Microsol  -  B  for  micros  just  ONCE  IN  A  WEEK  (*  Reduced  from  EI  dosing)
 
 Flora  -  Staurogyne  Sp.,  Hygrophila  Polysperma,  Java  Moss,  Dwarf  Sagittaria,  Java  Fern  and  Anubias  Barteri
 
 Fauna  -  RCS,  Guppies
 
 Observations  -
 
 1.  Java  moss  died.  But  I  think  its  because  of  the  heat.
 2.  Staurogyne  Sp.  is  growing  taller  and  bigger.  
 3.  Top  leaves  of  Hygrophila  Polysperma  turned  pink/reddish  for  a  few  days,  and  now  are  back  to  normal  green.
 4.  A  lot  of  Diatoms  slowly  disappearing,  but  Hair  Algae  is  increasing.
 5.  Java  Fern  finally  showing  some  growth.
 6.  Dwarf  Sagittaria  growing  very  tall,  but  finally  started  spreading  very  fast.  
 7.  RCS  showing  very  nice  red  color  and  other  fish  look  happy  too.
 8.  Plants  are  pearling  very  nicely.
 
 Here  is  a  pic  that  I  clicked  today  -
 
 
 
 And  here  is  a  pic  of  an  happy  inhabitant  of  my  tank  that  I  clicked  a  few  days  back  -
 
 
 
 Now  I  am  kind  of  afraid  to  take  the  next  step.  That  is,  completely  stop  CO2.  Recommended?
 
 What  do  you  guys  say?  Any  suggestions?  
 
 Thank  You.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UUPDATE - 12/04/2011) Reply with quote

 I  would  not  recommend  that.  Plants  will  still  survive  without  CO2,  but  they  will  not  look  good.  i  believe  H.Polysperma  will  start  losing  its  bottom  leaves  and  show  less  healthier  growth.  The  same  with  Staurogyne  too.  The  others  will  still  make  it,  but  will  find  it  hard  to  compete  with  algae.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UUPDATE - 12/04/2011) Reply with quote

 oh.  will  try  it  without  CO2  for  a  few  days  and  see.  its  been  like  a  month  on  low  CO2  and  without  dosing.  nothing  bad  yet.
 
 but  i  am  worried  about  CO2.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UUPDATE - 12/04/2011) Reply with quote

 Plants  look  much  better  in  this  update  compared  to  last  one.
 
 Why  do  you  want  to  remove  CO2  completely?  For  rosette  or  rhisome  plants  that  would  be  fine,  but  definitely  not  good  for  stem  plants  and  that  too  with  such  a  lot  of  plant  mass.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UUPDATE - 12/04/2011) Reply with quote

 Wow....The  tank  looks  much  better  now...  Thumb Up  
 My  suggestion  not  to  stop  CO2  completely.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UUPDATE - 12/04/2011) Reply with quote

 @  Hamza,  Kuna
 
 yes,  the  plant  health  has  improved.  and  the  algae  is  reduced  a  lot.  specially  Brown  Algae  (diatoms).  Look  at  Java  fern  in  the  1st  pic.  its  completely  brown.  now,  its  slowly  going  away  :)
 
 and  i  want  to  remove  CO2  completely  so  that  i  can  use  the  cylinder  for  a  different  tank.  cannot  use  1  cylinder  for  multiple  tanks  as  both  the  tanks  will  be  in  different  rooms  and  the  distance  between  the  rooms  is  too  much.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UUPDATE - 12/04/2011) Reply with quote

 UPDATE  -  
 
 Added  12  Harlequin  Rasbora  to  my  tank.  They  look  very  scared.  But  I  like  the  fish.
 
 Quick  question  -  How  many  Harlequin  Rasbora  can  I  keep  in  this  tank?  I  am  planning  to  remove  the  guppies.  
 
 pics  -  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank  you.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UPDATE - 19/04/2011) Reply with quote

 @  neil,
 
 Nice  collection.....  I  think  you  can  add  12  more...  lets  experts  give  more  accurate  no's  for  your  tank  dimension...  
 
 Your  guppies  are  also  looking  very  nice..  Nice  coloration....  Thumb Up   Thumb Up   Smile
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 @  Shelly
 
 those  guppies  are  really  beautiful.  they  don't  look  that  good  in  photos.  the  one  with  orange  tail  is  my  favorite.  it  has  this  bright  blue  color  which  shines.  looks  very  cool.
 
 but  the  Harlequin  Rasbora  are  still  looking  very  scared  and  faded  colors.  i  have  seen  very  deep  orange  color  many  times.  but  my  fish  are  very  light  and  washed  out  colors.  
 
 are  Harlequin  Rasbora  shy  fish?  because  they  go  and  hide  every  time  there  is  some  slight  movement  near  the  tank.  Sad  they  look  good  only  when  looked  from  a  distance
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Project Low-Tech (UPDATE - 19/04/2011) Reply with quote

 They  need  to  get  used  their  new  environment.  Are  they  active  during  feeding  time?
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