Interesting Barb........does it have a caudal peduncle blotch?
We collected it at around 2" Marc and it never had a peduncle blotch.
Do you see any barbels Nayak? Would be great if you have a closer shot of the head.
If you are sure it does not have a caudal peduncle blotch then........this could be P. amphibius.
P.S. I have a few P. mahecola collected around Chennai. They too dont exhibit a blotch when they are relaxed. When the males start display the blotch emerges.................so you may want to double check.
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: A long journey begins- My fish room!
wow nayak, can wild life authorities question u, its all indian species, they cant breed in captivity arent u playing a hand in driving them towards extinction,
so sad your provoking others also to do collection of them,they may go extinct,
wow nayak, can wild life authorities question u, its all indian species, they cant breed in captivity arent u playing a hand in driving them towards extinction,
so sad your provoking others also to do collection of them,they may go extinct,
Is there any law that forbids keeping these fishes? Please do enlighten us.
As far as I know, none of these fishes are on the verge of extinction.
If you are sure it does not have a caudal peduncle blotch then........this could be P. amphibius.
P.S. I have a few P. mahecola collected around Chennai. They too dont exhibit a blotch when they are relaxed. When the males start display the blotch emerges.................so you may want to double check.
I've had a few mahecola/amphibius from time to time Marc. As you said the blotch is pretty transient. In most of the specimen that I had, the blotch was pretty prominent in juvis and faded as they grew up to adults similar to what happens in sarana. From what I've seen every specimen that I've come across, all of them showed the blotch at some point of time and I'm pretty sure this one was plain all through. I had it with me for a while and checked the same with Nayak as well.
BTW, this one was collected from the same biotope:
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wow nayak, can wild life authorities question u, its all indian species, they cant breed in captivity arent u playing a hand in driving them towards extinction,
so sad your provoking others also to do collection of them,they may go extinct,
Nayak,
Run away... and do find some cover for me too!
If you are sure it does not have a caudal peduncle blotch then........this could be P. amphibius.
P.S. I have a few P. mahecola collected around Chennai. They too dont exhibit a blotch when they are relaxed. When the males start display the blotch emerges.................so you may want to double check.
Marc, You are correct. I too have noticed P.mahecola both with the caudal peduncle blotch just after a water change and a complete absence of it after 3-4 days. But the fish in my picture which we were of the opinion of Neolissochilus Sp, is plain with not a mark on the whole body.
Here are a few pictures....
Clicked in 3-Apr-2010, when just arrived. Caught by Madhu and Rahul in a land locked drying puddle separated from the Thamirabarani river, all these fishes would have been feed for the birds or ants! Check the whitespots and fin rot.
Clicked in 20-Apr-2010. The healed fish.
Madhu.The mouth with the barbels, enlarged from the above picture.
Clicked on 26-Sep-2010. With the P. mahecola. Check the blotch.
But the fish in my picture which we were of the opinion of Neolissochilus Sp, is plain with not a mark on the whole body.
Lovely fish Nayak,
Did not notice the two pairs of barbels...............went offtrack to P. amphibius
Sure does look like a Neolissochilus. Barbodes (Neolissochilus) wynaadensis is the only south Indian species to which the meristics of your fish kinda fit. 3.5 scales between between dorsal fin and lateral line, Lateral line scales around 24 or 25 and predorsal scales 10...............the only problem is the absence of the dark mid lateral line which is an important key character.
There is Barbodes bovanicus which also fits your fish........4 barbels, last dorsal ray osseous and smooth, lateral line 24, predorsal scales 10, greenish gold in colour. I feel your fish could be B. bovanicus...........a rare barb known to be restricted to the cauvery. Interesting it was found in tamirabarani.............
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: A long journey begins- My fish room!
Marc,
Doesn't Neolissocheilus waynaadensis have a round black caudal blotch at the end of the dark band?
Nayak,
If we are to go with waynaadensis or bovanicus, it should boil down to the lower labial fold. Interrupted in the case of former and continuous if its the later. I know it would be too much to ask for a pic of the ventral side of the head.
I'm more inclined to B.bovanicus. Thank God you didn't give it off as it was outgrowing.
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