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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 The  personality  pattern  of  flowerhorn  cichlids  develop  from  the  interaction  with  the  environment  which  is  normally  subject  to  limitations-  (low  social  adjustments-  single  tank  fish)  .  Each  flowehorn  brings  into  its  interaction  a  certain  biological  constitution  in  the  shape  of  a  drive,  as  well  as  intellectual  capacities  which  determines  its  reaction  to  various  factors  and  situations.     This  in  fact  is  a  logical  explanation  to  its  aggressive  behavior.  
 
 The  pattern  of  its  aggression  is  a  pattern  of  its  hereditary  endowment.  The  aggression  is  not  in  fact  the  endowment  of  the  aggressive  behaviors  of  its  heritage,  rather  a  combination  of  unique  and  common  traits  developed  from  a  series  of  experiences  (flowerhorns  have  been  kept  alone  as  a  symbol  of  luck),  transferred  through  the  generations  in  individual  genes.     Thus  this  behavior  can  definitely  be  controlled.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Krishna,
 
 Very  profound.  
 Before  I  reply  can  we  know  a  bit  more  about  you,  like  education  and  profession?  Very Happy  
 It  would  help  me  in  formulating  my  reply.
 
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 This  is  one  nice  piece,  and  entirely  original  to  boot  !  Congrats  !
 
 I  will  not  even  respond  to  the  intellect  of  a  Flower  horn  !
 The  author  has  let  himself  to  be  carried  away.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 What  is  the  size  of  the  tank,  going  by  your  fish  combination  it  should  be  around  6-7  ft.
 It  is  highly  volatile  mix,  one  fine  day  someone  is  going  berserk  and  mayhem  will  follow.
 I  have  kept  both  Oscars  &  Flowerhorn,  and  can  very  safely  vouch  that  they  should  not  be  mixed.
 Further  just  because  they  live  together  in  your  tank  means  that  can  be  kept  together.
 Jewels  would  be  the  first  to  go  in  your  tank
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 in  most  of  the  lfs,  such  a  large  FWs  are  kept  in  a  single  tank.  Perhaps,  risk  is  not  worth  to  be  taken  for  such  an  expensive  fish  which  is  high  on  demand.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 @Maverick  how  was  the  condition  of  such  FH  in   that  lfs  tank?
 Ive  seen  some  wholesellers  keep  numerous  FH  in  single  tank  but  thats  because  he  is  fed-up  of  these  stock  not  selling   and  all  loosing  eyes  or  fins  in  pathetic  condition
 such  an  act  is  brutal  for  those  species  who  would  be  victimized  by  their  masters
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 In  a  single  dedicated  tank,  the  FH  is  more  contented  as  it  requires  a  large  space  &  has  a  dominant  personality.  It  grows  faster  than  in  such  a  tank  that  is  bunched  with  other  inhabitants.  It  shows  true  color  in  the  single  dedicated  tank.  Thats  what  i  ve  observed  in  these  LFS.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 maverick4300,  please  give  your  name,  it  looks  very  odd  calling  someone  by  signon  name.  Smile  
 The  tank  setup  one  observes  in  LFS  is  never  indicative  of  anything.  
 They  are  usually  very  short  term  setups  and  almost  never  reflect  true  personality  of  fish.
 Hence  whether  LFS  keep  them  in  single  tank  or  crammed  in  a  1ft  by  1ft  tank(believe  me,  I  have  seen  this)  is  entirely  un  related  to  how  this  fish  should  be  kept.
 This  fish  is  a  hybrid  of  South  American  Cichlids  and  thus  inherits  aggressive  genes,  it  is  entirely  possible  that  it  may  not  display  its  aggressive  behaviour  for  some  time.
 One  year  is  not  a  very  long  time  for  fish  that  have  life  spans  of  10-15  years,  they  may  display  their  natutal  behaviour  after  some  time.
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 Do  not  add  any  more  fish  to  this  tank,
 I  suspect  it  is  already  overstocked  beyond  its  capacity.
 What  filter  are  you  using,  the  water  looks  a  bit  yellowish.
 Further  discussions  are  useless,  unless  we  know  the  size  of  the  tank
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 sandeep,  observation  is  key  to  knowledge.  Almost  all  LFS  keep  them  in  a  separate   tank,  even  if  for  a  short  term.  There  are  no  hard  and  fast  rule  to  be  adopted  in  the  fish  family.  For  example,  2cichlids  &  2  angels  are  doing  fine  in  my  tank  for  the  last  4  months  &  they  are  said  to  be  incompatible  to  eachother.  May  be  im  lucky!!!!!!!!!  Smile   Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 Irrespective  of  all  the  intellectual  rocket  science  discussions  above  one  basic  point  seem  to  have  been  forgotten.   Considering  that  a  FH  still  has  the  traits  of  a  Central  American  cichlid,  why  are  CA  cichlids  aggressive?   To  guard  their  territories  and  being  bigger  fish  their  territory  happens  to  be  proportionately  large.   Now  with  so  many  cichlids  in  one  bare-bottom  tank  without  any  decor,  the  individual  ones  have  nothing  to  guard  or  even  consider  as  a  territory.   Some  might  take  a  corner  but  still  that  will  be  way  too  transient.   So  when  they  have  nothing  to  guard  and  no  conditions  to  pair  with  why  would  they  ever  want  to  be  aggressive?   That  is  also  the  reason  why  LFS  are  able  to  hold  so  many  CA  cichlids  in  one  tank.   They  just  dump  in  way  too  many  fishes  in  a  tank  without  any  decor  and  they  all  are  forced  to  live  in  harmony.   In  other  words,  its  almost  impossible  to  have  4-5  FH  or  any  other  aggressive  cichlid  in  a  tank  with  2  flowerpots  whereas  its  way  too  easy  to  keep  20  such  fishes  in  the  same  tank  without  any  likely  territory.   In  addition  to  not  having  anything  to  guard  if  the  population  is  too  high,  there  will  be  enough  "cushion"  to  take  out  the  aggression  of  one  or  a  few  alpha  males  and  they  too  give  up  as  a  matter  of  fact.   This  seems  to  be  the  case  in  the  above  tank  as  well.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 that's  a  valid  point  made  based  on  keen  observation,  madhu.   Clapping   Clapping
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sandeep,  observation  is  key  to  knowledge.  Almost  all  LFS  keep  them  in  a  separate   tank,  even  if  for  a  short  term.  There  are  no  hard  and  fast  rule  to  be  adopted  in  the  fish  family.  For  example,  2cichlids  &  2  angels  are  doing  fine  in  my  tank  for  the  last  4  months  &  they  are  said  to  be  incompatible  to  eachother.  May  be  im  lucky!!!!!!!!!  Smile   Smile  
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 Lalit,
 On  a  visit  to  the  zoo,  I  came  across  Tiger  cubs(orphans)  playing  with  a  large  pet  dog  of  the  zoo  personnel.  In  every  instance  of  my  observation  of  about  15minutes  the  dog  over  came  the  Tiger  cubs  in  their  duels.  In  each  instance  the  Tiger  cubs  were  on  their  backs  in  submission!  So  should  I  conclude  that  the  dog  is  mightier  than  the  Tiger?
 
 Krishna,
 some  more  time  please  Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 Nayak,  size  does  matter.  let  the  cubs  grow  &  u  would  observe  &  conclude  on  the  contrary.  Smile   Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Flowerhorn Community tank Reply with quote

 Maverick,
 
 I  went  through  your  introduction.  It  does  not  mention  your  education  or  profession.  
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=239850#239850
 Do  kindly  fill  that  up  so  that  I  know  who  am  I  refering  to.
 
 
                                                 
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sandeep,  observation  is  key  to  knowledge.  Almost  all  LFS  keep  them  in  a  separate   tank,  even  if  for  a  short  term.  There  are  no  hard  and  fast  rule  to  be  adopted  in  the  fish  family.  For  example,  2cichlids  &  2  angels  are  doing  fine  in  my  tank  for  the  last  4  months  &  they  are  said  to  be  incompatible  to  eachother.  May  be  im  lucky!!!!!!!!!  Smile   Smile  
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Nayak,  size  does  matter.  let  the  cubs  grow  &  u  would  observe  &  conclude  on  the  contrary.  Smile   Smile                

 And  it  takes  time  to  observe  the  Cubs  grow  up  and  take  on  the  dog!  My  point  exactly.  Now  do  you  understand  that  4  months  experience  you  have  is  nothing  in  terms  of  observations  you  have  made  and  commented  on  the  same  here?  People  on  this  site  have  fishes  kept  with  them  for  nearly  10  odd  years.  This  is  not  a  social  networking  site.  So  please  keep  off  this  thread!
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