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sawantamey Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: help - CRS losing colour |
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Its being a month that Crystal Red Shrimps are with me. But day by day i am observing that they are losing their colour. Mainly the white part is turning down to translucent.
the Tank temperature is 26 c and has java moss tied to it.
i have kept the CRS with RCS. i dont think that should be the problem. |
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sawantamey Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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ashwin1224 Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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What are your feeding them?
They dont each much,like cherry shrimps.
Algae wafers sometimes leave a bit f oil on the surface,that could be the problem.
Also if there are not enough hiding spaces,they will get stressed and loose their color(like most fishes).
I am no expert but this is my limited experiece with CRS....
Posting a pic may help mayb..
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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Hope u've read a lot abt.CRS before deciding on them because I have a few questions n I have CRS
1. What grade did u buy ? How many ? Any deaths ? Any berried females/offsprings ?
2. How long did u cycle your tank ? Does your tank have any fish ?
3. What substrate ? Did u add any minerals under your substrate bef.cycling the tank ?
4. What water do u use ? Reverse Osmosis or tap water with anti-chlorine ?
5. How often do u change the tank water ? What percent ? Do u add any minerals (liquid/powder) ?
6. What r your tank parameters ? PH KH GH Nitrate Nitrite
7. What is your tank temperature ? Does it fluctuate ? Do u use a fan to keep the crs cool ?
Crs prefer slighty acidic water and r at their best at temp.23 degrees
Answer my questions n I'll try to help u because all these questions r imp.n keys to successful CRS breeding.
A tip: Crs breeders use min. 1 kind of mineral to get that white (binaca smile) color on CRS. |
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josyjames Committed Member of IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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I think its basically due to the water quality. A good water quality has to be maintained to have good color for CRS |
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Mortis Committed Member of IAH

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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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You could try boosting their calcium intake by feeding blanched spinach |
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sawantamey Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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ashwin1224 wrote (View Post):
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What are your feeding them?
They dont each much,like cherry shrimps.
Algae wafers sometimes leave a bit f oil on the surface,that could be the problem.
Also if there are not enough hiding spaces,they will get stressed and loose their color(like most fishes).
I am no expert but this is my limited experiece with CRS....
Posting a pic may help mayb..
Best of luck
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Sorry for late reply ...
i dont feed them algae wafers but feed them with micro pellets and the normal pellets. The CRS have less hiding space so might be the a slow coloration loss. But the they kept along with RCS. i dont think that should be the problem |
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sawantamey Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:05 am Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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@Rony11-
Hope u've read a lot abt.CRS before deciding on them because I have a few questions n I have CRS
Yes i read a lot before buying them
1. What grade did u buy ? How many ? Any deaths ? Any berried females/offsprings ?
-> A grade. total 6 pieces and total survived till date is 3 pieces
2. How long did u cycle your tank ? Does your tank have any fish ?
->for atleast 3 days. no fish at all. It is a shrimp only tank.
3. What substrate ? Did u add any minerals under your substrate bef.cycling the tank ?
-> River sand what we et in the LFS. No minerals added until now or before cycling of the tank.
4. What water do u use ? Reverse Osmosis or tap water with anti-chlorine ?
-> tap water without antichlorine
5. How often do u change the tank water ? What percent ? Do u add any minerals (liquid/powder) ?
-> 50% weekly without addition of minerals
6. What r your tank parameters ? PH KH GH Nitrate Nitrite
-> never tested. dont really have a test kit.
7. What is your tank temperature ? Does it fluctuate ? Do u use a fan to keep the crs cool ?
-> it was between 28-30c in summer time (i.e. 2 weeks back) during this i lost my 3 CRS. but now the monsoon recorded tempertaure is 26-27c
Crs prefer slighty acidic water and r at their best at temp.23 degrees
Answer my questions n I'll try to help u because all these questions r imp.n keys to successful CRS breeding.
A tip: Crs breeders use min. 1 kind of mineral to get that white (binaca smile) color on CRS.
What is the name of the mineral ???
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sawantamey Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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josyjames wrote (View Post):
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I think its basically due to the water quality. A good water quality has to be maintained to have good color for CRS
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i do maintain the water quality by 50% water change on weekly basis. Tap water is used in all of my tank. |
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sawantamey Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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Mortis wrote (View Post):
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You could try boosting their calcium intake by feeding blanched spinach
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Actually wanted to try blanched spinach but was worried that the water quality would be affected due to the green colour of it .... |
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:09 am Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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Hi Amey,
Here are some of the stuffs-
1. Change the soil to something dark colored I would prefer ADA Amazonia 2 because it also helps in buffering the ph, which is essential for crs. And ph, tds are important for crs.
2. Your temperature is on the higher side possible then bring it down to 24, the less the better, more than 25 you are bound to loose some offspring and some color.
Check this it will help Information
3. What filtration system you are using and also what is the light you are using? A good filtration system and a 65000k helps bringing out much more color of the cuties.
4. Get yourself a test kit because crs are picky about their water parameters and not the same as rcs a drop in the water quality will let everything go for a toss?
5. Why 50% wc per week? I personally do around 10-20% in every 15 days and they are behaving great.
6. To get good offsprings and good color mix their diet a lot feed them algae wafers, ada bee shrimp, if you can then mosura. And about blanched spinach is good but remove the left overs after 2 hours because it will start degrading the water quality and also it requires wc, so I never did that.
7. And also I feel their is no mineral which can enhance the white color of crs, if that kind of stuff would have been there all would have been SS+ grades You can improve the whiteness through lot of hard work and also through selective breeding
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:19 am Post subject: Re: help - CRS losing colour |
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Abhishek has said everything in his reply I would only add a few things to that
1.A proper tank is cycled atleast for a month. Personally I cycle tank for 3 weeks with a tiny amount of fish food I do not waste money on cycling enhancers (which usually contain ammonia) Change tank water 30% thrice in the 1st week.
2nd, 3rd week change water twice 30% Check the parameters add a fish like guppy/molly/platy to cycle. Check the tank parameters once again after a week n if the tank is ready remove the fish n add shrimps.
2.It is imp.to use anti chlorine esp.with expensive n sensitive shrimps like CRS.
3.Try to add a fan to lower the temp. under 26 degrees.
Avoid starting a CRS shrimp tank during summer wait for cooler/winter season. |
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