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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

 Hello  Friends,
 
 Earlier  I  used  to  think  that  cycling  is  just  keeping  the  filter  and  air  pump  running  for  2  days  but  because  of  many  experienced  friends  here  I  learned  more  about  it.  So  I  am  thinking  of  trying  the  following.
 
 Tank  Dimension:
 24"x24"x24"  =  200  L  approximately.
 
 Fishes  That  I  want  to  Keep
 
 4  Red  blood  Parrot  Cichlids
 
 1.  Adding  Sera  Bio  Nitrivec  and  wait  for  24  hours.
 
 2.  Add  few  hardy  fishes  to  start  the  cycling  process.
 
 3.  After  the  cycling  is  done,  give  back  the  hardy  fishes  back  to  LFS  and  introduce  the  Red  blood  parrot  cichlid  to  the  tank.
 
 Q-1  Following  fishes  are  available  at  my  LFS,  which  one's  are  hardy  enough  for  cycling  the  tank.  (names  as  told  by  my  LFS)
 Tin-Fin  Barb,  Tiger  barb,  Tetra,  Copper  Gourami,  Severum,  Silver  Dollar,  Vito,  Kissing,  Rosy  Barb  
 (Above  are  what  he  had  last  week,  there  are  chances  of  some  new  additions)
 
 Q-2  How  many  fishes  should  I  get  for  the  cycling
 
 Q-3  How  much  water  change  I  should  do  and  how  frequently  should  I  do  it.
 
 Q-4  How  much  should  I  feed  these  hardy  fishes.
 
 Q-5  After  how  much  time  should  I  introduce  parrot  cichlid  to  the  tank  (Already  ordered  by  the  LFS,  will  ask  him  to  keep  them  at  his  store  in  the  cycling  time)
 
 Thanks  a  ton  for  reading  and  replying  to  this  post  my  friends.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

 cycling  is  done  by  bacteria  not  fish,  u  should  leave  the  tank  filled  with  water  and  substrate  keep  it  for  three  weeks  before  leaving  any  fish,  this  helps  start  the  nitrogen  cycle,
 
 it  would  be  not  good  to  leave  a  fish  for  cycling
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

                                                   
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cycling  is  done  by  bacteria  not  fish,  u  should  leave  the  tank  filled  with  water  and  substrate  keep  it  for  three  weeks  before  leaving  any  fish,  this  helps  start  the  nitrogen  cycle,
 
 it  would  be  not  good  to  leave  a  fish  for  cycling                

 
 LOL!  now  THATS  a  first!  Please,  read  up  on  the  nitrogen  cycle  before  tryin  to  help  someone.
 
 Deepak  go  in  for  Zebra  Danios.  Hardy  and  Cheap.  Infact  throw  in  some  cheap  feeder  guppys  for  good  measure!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

 PS.  
 
 If  you  plan  to  use  Sera's  Nitrivac,  U  can  keep  fish  from  the  time  you  fill  the  tank  up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

 My  friend,  why  are  you  bothered  about  cycling  so  much.Parrots  being  cichlids  are  hardy  fishes.Just  keep  the  filter  on  for  around  a  couple  of  days  before  adding  them.
 And  for  your  tank  size,  4  parrots  are  too  much.You'll  soon  end  up  with  territorial  issues.And  being  the  notorius  diggers  that  they  are,your  decor  is  bound  to  suffer.I'd  say  keep  one  of  them  along  with  other  compatible  cichlids.
 Best  of  luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

                                                   
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My  friend,  why  are  you  bothered  about  cycling  so  much.Parrots  being  cichlids  are  hardy  fishes.  Just  keep  the  filter  on  for  around  a  couple  of  days  before  adding  them.                  

 
 Oooh!  
 
 First  of  all  I  don't  know  anything  about   Sera's  Nitrivac.
 As  far  as  cycling  is  concerned,  I  do  not  like  to  torture   any  fish  in  the  process  of  cycling.  (This  is  my  personal  opinion)
 You  already  have  a  koi  fish  tank  running,  take  some  water  from  that  tank,  add  a  little  fish  food.  Switch  on  the  filters.
 Wait  for  2  days,  check  the  nitrite  level,  ammonia  level,  (if  you  have  test  kits)  which  should  be  zero.
 Tank  is  ready  to  add  fish.  
 
 This  is  on  a  condition  that  your  present  koi  fish  tank  is  infection  free.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

 Why  not  Introduce  few  regular  plecos  into  tank?     They  will  not  complain  about  ill  treatment  :)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

                                                   
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 You  already  have  a  koi  fish  tank  running,  take  some  water  from  that  tank,  add  a  little  fish  food.  Switch  on  the  filters.
 Wait  for  2  days,  check  the  nitrite  level,  ammonia  level,  (if  you  have  test  kits)  which  should  be  zero.                

 
 This  will  work  but  bacteria  in  the  water  it  self  is  at  its  bare  minimum.  If  you  really  wanna  kick  start  the  cycling  process,  move  the  medium  from  an  established  filter  to  the  new  tank.  
 
 things  to  look  out  for:
   
 1:  the  medium  cannot  afford  to  get  dry.
 2:  when  moving  the  medium,  move  it  with  water  from  the  tank  and  not  fresh  water  or  water  from  the  new  tank.
 
 WHY  bother  with  a  cycle  when  your  adding  bacteria-in-a-bottle?  Sera's  product  is  reliable.  i  have  personally  used  it.  i  am  yet  to  loose  a  fish  or  even  a  shrimp  using  Sera's  Nitrivac.  (or  what  ever  you  call  that  thingamajiggy)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

                                                   
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cycling  is  done  by  bacteria  not  fish,  u  should  leave  the  tank  filled  with  water  and  substrate  keep  it  for  three  weeks  before  leaving  any  fish,  this  helps  start  the  nitrogen  cycle,
 
 it  would  be  not  good  to  leave  a  fish  for  cycling                

 
 Bro  I  am  not  leaving  fish  to  the  cycling  work,  I  am  using  Sera  Nitrivec  which  will  set  the  bacteria  colonies  and  then  adding  the  fish  to  do  what  they  do.   Rock On
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cycling  is  done  by  bacteria  not  fish,  u  should  leave  the  tank  filled  with  water  and  substrate  keep  it  for  three  weeks  before  leaving  any  fish,  this  helps  start  the  nitrogen  cycle,
 
 it  would  be  not  good  to  leave  a  fish  for  cycling                

 
 LOL!  now  THATS  a  first!  Please,  read  up  on  the  nitrogen  cycle  before  tryin  to  help  someone.
 
 Deepak  go  in  for  Zebra  Danios.  Hardy  and  Cheap.  Infact  throw  in  some  cheap  feeder  guppys  for  good  measure!                

 
 Thanks  Viresh,
 
 My  LFS  does  not  have  zebra  danios  or  guppies  at  this  time  Razz,
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PS.  
 
 If  you  plan  to  use  Sera's  Nitrivac,  U  can  keep  fish  from  the  time  you  fill  the  tank  up.                

 
 Thanks  Viresh...
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My  friend,  why  are  you  bothered  about  cycling  so  much.Parrots  being  cichlids  are  hardy  fishes.Just  keep  the  filter  on  for  around  a  couple  of  days  before  adding  them.
 And  for  your  tank  size,  4  parrots  are  too  much.You'll  soon  end  up  with  territorial  issues.And  being  the  notorius  diggers  that  they  are,your  decor  is  bound  to  suffer.I'd  say  keep  one  of  them  along  with  other  compatible  cichlids.
 Best  of  luck.                

 
 Dear  Hrishi,
 
 Parrots  are  costing  me  xxxx  ,  so  just  wanna  be  sure  if  the  tank  is  set  up  from  them,  I  will  transfer  the  parrots  after  6  months  to  75  G  tank.  Just  does  not  want  to  keep  any  other  fish  as  of  now...  I  just  love  parrots.
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My  friend,  why  are  you  bothered  about  cycling  so  much.Parrots  being  cichlids  are  hardy  fishes.  Just  keep  the  filter  on  for  around  a  couple  of  days  before  adding  them.                  

 
 Oooh!  
 
 First  of  all  I  don't  know  anything  about   Sera's  Nitrivac.
 As  far  as  cycling  is  concerned,  I  do  not  like  to  torture   any  fish  in  the  process  of  cycling.  (This  is  my  personal  opinion)
 You  already  have  a  koi  fish  tank  running,  take  some  water  from  that  tank,  add  a  little  fish  food.  Switch  on  the  filters.
 Wait  for  2  days,  check  the  nitrite  level,  ammonia  level,  (if  you  have  test  kits)  which  should  be  zero.
 Tank  is  ready  to  add  fish.  
 
 This  is  on  a  condition  that  your  present  koi  fish  tank  is  infection  free.                

 
 It  will  just  be  8  weeks  since  the  koi  tank  setup,  dont  want  to  disturb  the  cycle  that  has  been  set  up  there,  just  dont  want  to  upset  anything  in  that  tank.
 I  also  love  fishes,  all  fishes,  thats  why  using  sera  nitrivec
 I  will  try  and  get  the  test  kits  today.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Why  not  Introduce  few  regular  plecos  into  tank?     They  will  not  complain  about  ill  treatment  :)
 
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 Jai                

 
 Yup  bro,  but  there  is  nothing  there  for  them  to  eat.  Can  not  give  them  much  food.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Which Hardy Fish would be right for cycling? Reply with quote

                                                   
Zakk  wrote  (View  Post):                
                                                 
saurabh_m  wrote  (View  Post):                

 You  already  have  a  koi  fish  tank  running,  take  some  water  from  that  tank,  add  a  little  fish  food.  Switch  on  the  filters.
 Wait  for  2  days,  check  the  nitrite  level,  ammonia  level,  (if  you  have  test  kits)  which  should  be  zero.                

 
 This  will  work  but  bacteria  in  the  water  it  self  is  at  its  bare  minimum.  If  you  really  wanna  kick  start  the  cycling  process,  move  the  medium  from  an  established  filter  to  the  new  tank.  
 
 things  to  look  out  for:
   
 1:  the  medium  cannot  afford  to  get  dry.
 2:  when  moving  the  medium,  move  it  with  water  from  the  tank  and  not  fresh  water  or  water  from  the  new  tank.
 
 WHY  bother  with  a  cycle  when  your  adding  bacteria-in-a-bottle?  Sera's  product  is  reliable.  i  have  personally  used  it.  i  am  yet  to  loose  a  fish  or  even  a  shrimp  using  Sera's  Nitrivac.  (or  what  ever  you  call  that  thingamajiggy)                

 
 Dear  Viresh,
 
 Just  dont  want  to  upset  the  koi  tank.
 Adding  other  fishes  just  making  sure  tank  is  ready  for  parrots.
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