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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Hi,  my  tank  is  1m  long,  45cm  deep  and  it  is  plante,  but  doesn't  have  a  flourishing  growth.......the  light  I  have  fitted  is  a  single  2ft  t5  tube....i  dont  think  it  is  t5ho,  and  I  also  don't  know  its  wattage.  I  know  that  t5ho  daylight  6500k  is  the  best  for  plants......i  have  a  few  questions.......  I  wanted  to  know  if  its  alright  if  I  can  continue  to  use  this  light(supposing  its  t5  he)  to  get  good  plant  growth,  cause  I  am  planing  to  start  diy  co2.......and  pls  tell  me  whether  2ft  t5ho  daylight  6500k   would  be  available  in  the  shop  and  would  they  understand  if  I  use  the  term  "high  output"?  im  asking  this  because  in  my  experience  shopkeepers  are  using  only  the  watts  terminology
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Waseem,
 please  provide  more  details  about  your  tank  i.e.  height,  substrate,  plants  etc.  also  update  your  location.
 you  can  use  T5HO  or  HE,  HE  would  be  fine  if  your  tank  height  is  18"  or  below  but  you  need  to  add  more  lights.
   1.5  -  2  wpg  will  be  fine  as  you  are  using  DIY  co2.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 My  tank  height  is  49cm,  width  is  30cm,  substrate  is  ordinary  sand...and  plants  include  java  moss  ,  java  fern,  amazon  swords,  vallisneria,  sagittaria,  and  some  other  stem  plants....im  planing  to  keep  riccia  also.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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My  tank  height  is  49cm,  width  is  30cm,  substrate  is  ordinary  sand...and  plants  include  java  moss  ,  java  fern,  amazon  swords,  vallisneria,  sagittaria,  and  some  other  stem  plants....im  planing  to  keep  riccia  also.                

 
 You  need  atleast  90  watts  of  light  to  grow  these  plants.
 
 You  can  go  for  T5  3  footers.  four  tubes  will  be  sufficient.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Waseem,
 Your  tank  volume  is  38-40  gallons  so  u  need  about  80-90  watts  light,  i  think  3*28  watt  T5  will  be  sufficient.
 Ordinary  sand  is  inert  and  will  not  provide  any  nutrients,  you  can  upgrade  to  a  better  substrate  to  enable  good  growth.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Thanks,  by  28w  you  mean  the  t5he  isn't  it,  which  currently   I  would  be  probably  using.  I  would  like  to  know  whether  the  t5  ho  would  be  available  in  2ft/3ft  sizes  and  what  would  be  its  wattage?  and   If  its  available  how  many  t5ho  for  me?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 I  guess  28  watts  is  HE  and  not  HO,  you  will  have  to  check  with  the  shopkeeper.
 3'  T5HO  is  39  watt  and  4'  is  54  watt.
 For  your  tank  2  *  39  watt  or  3  *  28  watt  would  be  enough,  IMO  you  should  be  using  HE  instead  of  HO  as  the  intensity  of  HO  is  greater.
 You  have  diy  co2  and  inert  substrate  so  too  much  light  would  result  in  algae.
 Search  the  websites  of  havells,  osram  and  philips  you  will  find  all  the  specs  there.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  ,  I  hope  riccia  will  grow  well
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Waseem
 let  me  put  forth  a  few  unexciting  suggestions
 
 All  those  excellent  suggestions  are  good,  but  check  what  is  available  locally  before  you  fix  your  plans.  I  had  gone  through  all  the  major  electrical  stores  in  Kochi  two  years  back.  I  was  unable  to  get  most  of  the  stuff  that  was  suggested,  and  finally  settled  for  PLLs.  But  I  must  confess  that  I  didn't  venture  into  the  wholesalers  in  the  Market  street  and  Jew  street.
 If  you  are  just  starting  off  my  I  suggest  that  you  try  with  the  regular  cool  daylight  {6500K}  T5/PLLs  for  the  time  being.
 
 Do  you  have  a  hood  on  the  tank?  Most  LFS  in  Kochi  sell  covered  hoods  with  the  tank.  The  regular  tubes  /  PLLs  can  be  mounted  inside  the  hood  with  a  foil  as  reflector.  But  keep  in  mind  that  a  closed  hood  doesn't  allow  any  ventilation  and  heat  will  be  a  problem.  You  will  need  a  couple  of  CPU/  small  diameter  AC  fans  for  ventilation.  If  the  hood  sits  directly  on  the  glass  you  might  want  to  think  of  some  way  to  elevate  it  a  little  of  the  glass  to  allow  ventilation.
 
 As  for  how  much  lights  you  need?  Depends  a  lot  on  the  plants  you  select.  All  others  that  you  mentioned  other  than  Riccia  should  do  fine  with  2  WPG.  I  am  not  sure  about  the  Riccia,  I  think  it  needs  more  light.  
 
 As  you  become  more  comfortable  with  CO2  and  plants  you  can  go  for  the  specialized  lights,  fixtures  and  substrates.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  replying,  I  will  anyway  ask  shopkeeper  about  the  t5ho  daylight  tube,  if  it  is  not  available  I  will  buy  the  ordinary  t5  daylight.....i  have  another  question  to  clarify.....does  the  wpg  rule  apply  to  t5  ?  Does  it  apply  to  all  the  tubes  t12,  t8  and  t5?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

                                                   
waseemmik  wrote  (View  Post):                
Thanks  for  replying,  I  will  anyway  ask  shopkeeper  about  the  t5ho  daylight  tube,  if  it  is  not  available  I  will  buy  the  ordinary  t5  daylight.....i  have  another  question  to  clarify.....does  the  wpg  rule  apply  to  t5  ?  Does  it  apply  to  all  the  tubes  t12,  t8  and  t5?                

 
 Essentially  yes!  The  only  exception  to  a  certain  degree  can  be  with  T5HOs.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

                                                   
waseemmik  wrote  (View  Post):                
Thanks  for  replying,  I  will  anyway  ask  shopkeeper  about  the  t5ho  daylight  tube,  if  it  is  not  available  I  will  buy  the  ordinary  t5  daylight.....i  have  another  question  to  clarify.....does  the  wpg  rule  apply  to  t5  ?  Does  it  apply  to  all  the  tubes  t12,  t8  and  t5?                

 
 Yes.  All  tubes.  Except  LED's.  If  you  are  looking  for  T5HO,  you  will  have  to  go  the  direct  dealers  of  Philips/Osarm/Passolite  etc.  Other  than  those,  no  retail  shops  would  have  T5HO  tubes   Thumb Down  
 
 So  search  for  the  direct  dealers  of  Philips/Osarm  etc  and  then  get  to  them..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

                                                   
josyjames  wrote  (View  Post):                

 Yes.  All  tubes.  Except  LED's.  
                 

 
 +  1  to  Shelly.  You  can  go  for  LED  if  it's  available.  but  its  a  bit  costly.  you  can  DIY  a  LED  lighting  for  your  tank
 
 WPG  its  more  of  a  general  term.  its  not  applicable  for  T5,  T5HO  's  or  any  lighting  for  that  matter  for  an  aquarium.
 
 Luminous  Flux  around  1000  Lumen  (amount  of  light  that  reaches  the  surface  area),  Color  Temperature  6500  K  is  what  matter.  the  mentioned  two  provides  more  photo  synthetically  active  radiations  which  enhances  the  plant  growth!
 
 LED  provides  exactly  what  is  needed  but  with  lesser  power  consumption!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 thanks  everyone....there  is  a  havells  shop  near  my  home,ill  go  ask  there,  if  it  is  not  present   there  I  will  search  for  a  philips  or  osram  shop...anyway  I  will  have  to  minimum  buy  1  more  tube....  so  better  than  spending  money  on  a  t5he  daylight  I  will  search  for  shop  with  t5ho  daylight.  If  I  don't  get  t5ho  I  will  settle  with  t5he.....thats  my  only  option  now...@sathy,  im  not  going  for  led,  fitting,  cost,etc  would  be  a  lot  of  work,  anyway  thanks  for  the  info
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: Suggest Lighting for 1m planted fw tank Reply with quote

 Hi  waseemmik,
 
 T5HE  and  normal  T5  are  14Watts.  Only  T5HO  is  24Watts.  So  when  you  get  the  T5HO/HE,  get  the  right  ballast  for  it.
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