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scapegoat_44
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 Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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Hiya fellas ,
I happen to have a bowl in my attic that i plan to make use of  . So , here s my question : Is it possible to make a planted setup in the bowl ??
The bowl should hold about 1.5 gallons
I plan to grow a Betta fish in the bowl , no CO2 stuff whatsoever .
If i am good to go , what substrate should i use and what plants should i consider ??
Thanks guys ...
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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You can do it 
This should help you:
Video: Jungle Bubble |
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scapegoat_44
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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| ashwin1224 wrote (View Post):
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You can do it
This should help you:
Video: Jungle Bubble
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I came across that video some time back . At that time my first impression was it was just setup for the contest that the dude was on . I thought it was set the prior day or the day before that .
But after reading the preface its good to know the dude's been maintaining it for nearly 6 months . But i think its a larger bowl and its got CO2 system .
So is it feasible without CO2 setup ?
Can i introduce Betta splendens in it ? Any alternate choice of fishes other than betta fish ??
Thanks mate ..
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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| i had a bowl with gravels and cabomba caroliana kept near the window and fitted with a night bulb. the plant blossomed, i had 4 guppies in it. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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| Yes definitely possible , algae might be a problem after some time , I find algae is much easier to control with co2 . |
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ashwin1224
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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I still stick to my first comment. Yes You Can 
This can be a great opportunity to test those LEDs that came up in the forum some time back. Those cheap ones... |
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scapegoat_44
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:07 am Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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@mudjawd @bijay @ashwin1224
Thanks guys . As mudjawd suggested i've set my sight on Cabomba . Are there any other hardy plants that could be grown in a bowl ? Preferably carpet plants that are are easily available ;)
Substrate : Can i use the inert medium sized gravel that are available in the LFS or should i go for any special kinda substrate ?
Lighting : Can sunlight do the trick or should i go for a DIY light assembly ??
Thanks guys . Man , this forum is awesome 
Will post on further developments .
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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I'm not sure if any of the carpet plants will survive under the above mentioned conditions. Unless it is done using Dry Start Method (DSM). All you need is a decent substrate like ADA aquasoil, you could use diffused sunlight. Maintenance is minimal. Only drawback is no fishes  Do read up on DSM. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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| You can try going for dwarf vals. Or, you could go for a Moss setup. I have grown vals without a standard substrate, I had big 1-2" pebbles to call substrate. You just need good light. Same with the moss, they grow stuck to something so they dont depend on substrate. But, a good substrate could really help you if you plan to go with a bit demanding plants and it can help in maintaining water parameters. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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| Go for an inert substrate with light liquid fert and excel dosing and have a small sponge filter in the middle for flow as well as filteration obviously. For foreground/carpet go with moss tied to flat pieces of rock and for larger plants go with rotala or Java fern |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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I'm not sure if any of the carpet plants will survive under the above mentioned conditions. Unless it is done using Dry Start Method (DSM). All you need is a decent substrate like ADA aquasoil, you could use diffused sunlight. Maintenance is minimal. Only drawback is no fishes Do read up on DSM.
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DSM method - Looks like its quite tricky mate . As far as i grasped ,carpeting plants would do fine as long as they are exposed to atmospheric CO2 . Once we start filling the tank/bowl with water the CO2 is cutoff and the plants are devoid of CO2 and they start melting in a coupla days . This method is only suitable for tanks with CO2 setups
No fishes - That would be sick !!!
Thanks for the suggestion mate , ill post on any further development  |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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You can try going for dwarf vals. Or, you could go for a Moss setup. I have grown vals without a standard substrate, I had big 1-2" pebbles to call substrate. You just need good light. Same with the moss, they grow stuck to something so they dont depend on substrate. But, a good substrate could really help you if you plan to go with a bit demanding plants and it can help in maintaining water parameters.
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Vallisneria looks cool . I have to ask my LFS guy for its availability .
Moss - Man , that is what i call an eye candy stuff !!! Its seems we need real cool water to grow it . Its looks like it is not picky about CO2 . That s an encouraging factor
Good substrate _ ADA ?? Could you please PM the price of this stuff ?? Thanks man , appreciate your help 
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scapegoat_44
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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Go for an inert substrate with light liquid fert and excel dosing and have a small sponge filter in the middle for flow as well as filteration obviously. For foreground/carpet go with moss tied to flat pieces of rock and for larger plants go with rotala or Java fern
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Thanks for the suggestion mate ...
It looks like a moss setup is my only option as far as carpeting plants are concerned .
What do you reckon about the availability of Mosses and Java fern in India ?
Finding those plants in my hometown would be real bonussss
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| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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I'm not sure if any of the carpet plants will survive under the above mentioned conditions. Unless it is done using Dry Start Method (DSM). All you need is a decent substrate like ADA aquasoil, you could use diffused sunlight. Maintenance is minimal. Only drawback is no fishes Do read up on DSM.
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DSM method - Looks like its quite tricky mate . As far as i grasped ,carpeting plants would do fine as long as they are exposed to atmospheric CO2 . Once we start filling the tank/bowl with water the CO2 is cutoff and the plants are devoid of CO2 and they start melting in a coupla days . This method is only suitable for tanks with CO2 setups
No fishes - That would be sick !!!
Thanks for the suggestion mate , ill post on any further development
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Thats exactly the point. Not going for the phase where you fill water. You could grow most of the plants this way. Enjoy the scape as long as it lasts then rip it apart.
Mosses and java fern should be available at your home town itself. But honestly they do not do too well without co2 and nutrients. In an small space as in a bowl its hard to keep the mosses clean from debris and fish waste hence inviting algae. Vals get too big even for a regular size tank. I'm not being negative here its just my opinion. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: Re: A planted bowl - FEASIBLE ?? |
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One of the best plants for such a setup would be Anubias nana.
It stays small, does not need substrate, grows on very little light.
Simply tie it to a small rock or a piece of driftwood
A simple table lamp would do the trick.
Do not go in for fancy substrates or Co2 injection, it has a very small volume and there will be very rapid changes in water parameter.
Cabomba is a high light plant and with out light the strands will start to break up.
A betta would do fine in such a setup. |
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