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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: Nano Marine: UPDATE Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 
 I  am  doing  all  the  basic  checklists  to  start  cycling  on  my  nano  on  the  28th  of  this  month.
 Current  Progress:
 
 1.  Tank:  24x20x15.  Done,  waiting  at  my  LFS.
 2.  Hood  and  Lighting:  Acrylic  Hood  completed,  waiting  for  my  fans  to  arrive  so  that  I  can  have  the  holes  drilled  at  one  side.  Lights  ordered,  total  24W  LEDs.  Lights,  at  6"  from  water  surface
 3.  LR  :  NA.  Some  members  here  offered,  but  due  to  my  personal  incompetence  [  Chuckle  ]  I  could  not  complete  the  deal(  all  the  equipment  was  not  in  place).  But  my  LFS  has  promised  to  get  some  by  25th.
 4.  Filter  :  None.
 5.  Sand  :  Aragonite,  Wondering  where  to  get.  I  dont  trust  my  LFS  for  this.  
 6.  Flow  :  2  chinese  power  heads,  rated  3000LPH  and  6000LPH.  Not  yet  bought  these,  i  think  this  might  be  too  much  flow  for  a  softies  tank.  Need  help  here.
 
 
 Now  with  the  above  points  cleared,  am  I  all  set  for  cycling?  Or  I  missed  out  somethings?
 Need  help  IAH.  Smile


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 It  going  to  be  fish  only  tank  or  reef  or  later  u  upgrade  to  reef  ?
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 check  mine  out  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op8KAzHn8js
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 What  are  you  planning  for  the  nano  -  a  FOWLR  or  a  reef  setup?   
 Get   a  HOB  Skimmer,  if  no  sump.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 @Yajur:  Initially  its  gonna  be  FOWLR,  later  on  a  reef.
 @Macster:  How  long  could  you  keep  it  running?
 @Simanta:  I  am  planning  not  to  keep  a  skimmer.  I  ll  do  weekly  10%  water  changes.  Skimmer  will  leave  a  bit  larger  dent  on  my  pocket,  so  I  will  add  that  later  on  if  I  feel  I  really  need  one.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 see  mine  !  Very Happy
 http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g343/bhojnikhil/DSC_3453.jpg
 
 Nano  marines  are  very  hard  to  handle.  something  goes  wrong,  very  difficult  to  handly  =  HUGE  dent  in  your  pocket  (like  i  had  Sad  )
 
 Mine  is  very  simple.  nothing  much  is  there.
 
 I  too  never  wanted  a  dent  in  pocket  for  the  skimmer,  so  i  made  my  own!  Very Happy  (its  not  hi  tech  super  duper  kinda,  just  an  OK  type  skimmer  for  my  satisfaction)
 Regular  water  changes  will  help  with  that.  The  thing  is  regular  water  changes  on  a  long  go  =  again  a  dent  in  your  pocket  for  the  salt   Chuckle  
 
 your  tank  is  around  30gallons,  so  as  far  as  i  know  if  u  put  both  the  3000lph  and  6000lph  its  gonna  be  tsunami  in  your  tank!   Shocked  
 the  3000lph  is  enough  i  guess.
 
 A  SW  test  kit,and  a  Hydrometer  is  mandatory.
 
 for  the  sand,  the  damn  lfs  guy  just  gave  me  some  white  sand.  i  wonder  how  im  managing  with  that.  :?
 
 
 So  what  i  did  was,
 Do  like  a  million  odd  hours  of  research  in  the  net  getting  know  about  nano  marine  tanks.
 Bought  the  tank  +  hood,  added  sand.
 Added  Blue+white  t5  Tubes+one  CFL  too.  
 Took  RO  water  in  a  bucket,  added  salt  and  put  the  powerhead  in  the  bucket  and  left  it  to  dissolve.
 Do  more  Research  on  the  net.
 after  dissolving  completely  put  the  water  into  the  tank.
 I  just  couldnt  admit  the  fact  that  my  tank  needed  like  1  month  or  so  to  just  cycle  Surprised  so  as  usual  i  wanted  to  speeden  up  the  process.
 firstly  i  tried  adding  fully  grown  mollies  ,  and  then  added  a  sock  with  Shrimp  in  it.
 more  RESEARCH.
 one  month  finally  over.  not  yet  cycled.
 1.5  months  over!  cycled!
 went  to  the  LFS,  took  The  fish  from  the  Marine  setup  he  had(i  dont  have  a  QT)
 Put  the  fish  
 See  the  fishies  Clownin  around   :grin:
 
 browse  through  www.nano-reef.com,  was  very  helpful  for  me.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 @Aswin  if  you  are  planning  for  a  fish  only  tank  for  now  then  skimmer  is  much  much  more  important  then  LED  light  for  your  setup,  because  (1)  fishes  produce  lots  of  waste  then  inverts  which  can  be  harmful  for  a  smaller  water  volume.  (2)  Weekly  water  change  also  dent  your  pocket  (3)  LED  will  also  dent  your  pocket  &  not  necessary  for  fish  only  tank.  So  its  better  to  buy  a  skimmer  for  now  &  later  go  for  the  LED  light  when  your  ready  to  upgrade  it  to  a  reef.  Think  twice  before  take  any  step  in  saltwater  hobby.
 
   If  possible  try  to  add  a  sump  it  will  help  you  a  lot  by  increasing  water  volume,  also  help  you  to  add  mechanical  or  chemical  filteration.  Atleast  a  good  HOB  filter  will  help  you  to  manage  water  quality  to  some  extend.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 Is  this  going  to  be  a  All  in  One  set  up  or  are  you  going  to  drill  and  add  a  sump?  You  can  run  this  tank  without  a  skimmer  if  you  have  very  low  bio  load,  don't  feed  too  much  and  do  10%  water  changes  every  week.  Get  Ammonia,  Nitrite,  Nitrate  and  PH  test  kit  and  an  Hydrometer,  you  should  be  good  to  go.
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 its  been  a  year  of  smooth  sailing  now  ive  transfered  everything  to  a  much  smaller  tank  the  dymax  iq3  
 http://mydymax.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=28&Itemid=154
 and  now  its  the  neatest  marine  setup  will  be  uploading  the  video  soon  now  i  have  added  a  baby  1/2  inch  percula  too  and  the  system  is  able  to  handle  it  i  feed  once  in  two  days  artemia  frozen  and  change  half  a  cup  of  water  everyday  jus  take  water  from  my  big  tank  and  dump  half  a  cup  there  the  whole  system  is  >3lts  but  all  doin  fine  0  deaths  as  of  now  i  would  say  chaeto  is  my  party  trick  and  is  most  important  for  the  pico  setups
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 @nick:  Thanx  for  the  long  post  man.   Chuckle  
 I  have  been  researching  for  the  past  year  6-7  months.I  missed  the  test  kits  in  my  first  post,I  am  waiting  for  them  to  arrive  at  my  LFS,  hopefully  he  will  get  them  till  25.  I  selected  this  date  cos  my  LFS  wont  bring  any  fish  till  27th  of  January,  so  no  chance  of  killing  anything,  or  crashing  my  tank.
 And  for  the  tank,  i  calculated  it  to  be  70X  tank  volume.  And  they  say  its  hard  to  have  too  much  flow....  Chuckle  
 
 @JIT2010:  Its  gonna  be  very  lightly  stocked.  Its  initially  gonna  be  a  FOWLR  only  because  I  will  add  corals  much  later.  The  main  aim  is  to  make  a  reef.  And  by  live  stock,  there  is  only  gonna  be  a  pair  of  clowns  with  either  1  banggai  and  some  random  tiny  blenny  OR  a  combo  of  chromis  and  yellow  tail  damsels.  Total  not  more  than  5  fish,  8-9"  of  fish.  Smile  
 
 @gremlin:  I  dont  have  the  space  for  a  sump.  But  if  its  really  necessary,  I  may  get  a  HOB  sump  in  the  future.  Smile  
 
 @macster:  Kudos  man!
 I  am  sure  you  arent  from  india,  the  temperatures  would  alone  crash  a  pico.  Chuckle  
 
 
 I  already  discussed  my  plans  with  cycling  and  all  here  Nano  Marine.  I  am  also  waiting  for  my  LFS  to  tell  me  what  CUC  he  can  bring.
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 @  Ashwin.
 Water  changes  are  very  good  and  monthly  salt  expense  won't  be  that  high  for  this  small  a  tank.  But,  IMO,  initially  a  cheap  skimmer  will  be  good  and  won't  make  that  big  a  dent  in  your  pocket.  For  eg.  -  a  Weipro  or  Boyu  skimmer  with  a  bodyguard/boyu  pump  or  still  better  an  atman  306  with  the  ceramic  shaft  will  leave  you  poorer  by  say  2-2.5  grands.  Later  you  can  still  use  the  pump  as  a  wave  maker.
 Anyways,   Thumb Up   all  the  best  for  the  project  and  keep  us  posted.
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@  Ashwin.
 Water  changes  are  very  good  and  monthly  salt  expense  won't  be  that  high  for  this  small  a  tank.  But,  IMO,  initially  a  cheap  skimmer  will  be  good  and  won't  make  that  big  a  dent  in  your  pocket.  For  eg.  -  a  Weipro  or  Boyu  skimmer  with  a  bodyguard/boyu  pump  or  still  better  an  atman  306  with  the  ceramic  shaft  will  leave  you  poorer  by  say  2-2.5  grands.  Later  you  can  still  use  the  pump  as  a  wave  maker.
 Anyways,   Thumb Up   all  the  best  for  the  project  and  keep  us  posted.                

 
 Thanx  man   Smile  
 I  will  surely  get  the  skimmer  if  I  get  it  at  my  LFS  when  I  go  get  my  fish.  Do  I  need  to  cycle  with  a  skimmer?
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@  Ashwin.
 Water  changes  are  very  good  and  monthly  salt  expense  won't  be  that  high  for  this  small  a  tank.  But,  IMO,  initially  a  cheap  skimmer  will  be  good  and  won't  make  that  big  a  dent  in  your  pocket.  For  eg.  -  a  Weipro  or  Boyu  skimmer  with  a  bodyguard/boyu  pump  or  still  better  an  atman  306  with  the  ceramic  shaft  will  leave  you  poorer  by  say  2-2.5  grands.  Later  you  can  still  use  the  pump  as  a  wave  maker.
 Anyways,   Thumb Up   all  the  best  for  the  project  and  keep  us  posted.                

 
 Thanx  man   Smile  
 I  will  surely  get  the  skimmer  if  I  get  it  at  my  LFS  when  I  go  get  my  fish.  Do  I  need  to  cycle  with  a  skimmer?                

 
 I  like  to  run  the  skimmer  and  also  light
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

                                                   
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@  Ashwin.
 Water  changes  are  very  good  and  monthly  salt  expense  won't  be  that  high  for  this  small  a  tank.  But,  IMO,  initially  a  cheap  skimmer  will  be  good  and  won't  make  that  big  a  dent  in  your  pocket.  For  eg.  -  a  Weipro  or  Boyu  skimmer  with  a  bodyguard/boyu  pump  or  still  better  an  atman  306  with  the  ceramic  shaft  will  leave  you  poorer  by  say  2-2.5  grands.  Later  you  can  still  use  the  pump  as  a  wave  maker.
 Anyways,   Thumb Up   all  the  best  for  the  project  and  keep  us  posted.                

 
 Thanx  man   Smile  
 I  will  surely  get  the  skimmer  if  I  get  it  at  my  LFS  when  I  go  get  my  fish.  Do  I  need  to  cycle  with  a  skimmer?                

 
 I  like  to  run  the  skimmer  and  also  light                

 
 Ok  Smile
 I  was  planning  to  run  only  lights  and  the  powerheads.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Nano Marine Fundamental querries. Very Happy Reply with quote

 If  you  get  a  skimmer  then  run  the  skimmer  to  remove  all  the  dieoffs  from  the  LR.  Don't  have  the  lights  on  for  too  long  cause  you'll  have  algae  problems.
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