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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:20 pm Post subject: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 Okay  so  my  cousin  and  her  husband  have  just  renovated  their  home  and  have  a  small  pond  built  in  there.  I  have  not  seen  it  yet  but  my  brother  has  and  its  6  ft  by  6  ft  and  1.5-2  feet  deep  (hes  not  sure  exactly).  
 
 These  guys  want  to  have  fish  in  it,  preferably  Koi  but  I  know  for  a  fact  that  the  pond  is  too  small  for  them.  
 
 The  help  I  want  from  you  guys  is  :
 
 1]  Fish  suggestions  :  Im  guess  goldfish  are  my  best  bet  ?  What  varieties  look  nice  and  where  can  I  get  these  in  Mumbai  ?  Unfortunately  I  have  never  even  had  a  proper  look  at  the  coldies  at  a  fish  shop  ever  :P
 
 Any  other  fish  I  can  keep  (alternately  and  together  )  Bottom  dwellers,  Small  fish,  schooling  fish
 
 2]  I  havent  seen  what  the  plumbing  is  like  yet,  But  what  are  my  options  for  a  pond  this  size,  External  as  well  as  internal  in  case  there  is  no  place  to  place  an  external  ?
 
 3]  Will  I  need  a  heater  ?  The  house  is  airconditioned  
 
 4]  Other  :  What  gravel  can  I  use  ?
 
 5]  Driftwood  and  plants  ok  ?  Options  on  plants  
 
 6]  Where  can  I  get  some  river  rocks  or  whatever  you  call  those  small  flat  smooth  pebbles  at  a  decent  price  for  a  large  qty
 
 Thanks  will  add  further  queries  and  details  as  this  progresses
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 I  think  you  should  refer  to  kaya’s  thread  here.  He’s  the  man  I  would  go  to  for  anything  related  to  ponds.  in  fact  he  deserves  a  medal  for  his  epic  pond  thread.  if  i  was  Jayalalitha,  i  would  have  made  him  the  Mayor  of  Madurai.
 
 Anyway  I  have  a  little  bit  of  experience  with  an  outdoor  pond.  So  here’s  my  take.  Filtration.  I  don’t  think  these  people  have  taken  filtration  into  account  while  planning  the  pond.  You  would  need  to  be  a  hobbyist  to  do  that  i  guess.  Goldfish  are  messy  so  you’ll  need  good  filtration  which  is  probably  what  you  mean  by  plumbing.  Gravel  is  out  of  the  question  (esp  with  gildies  and  koi).  Why  would  you  want  to  add  gravel  in  a  pond???  It’s  just  going  to  trap  muck  and  it  wont  be  visible  after  a  while.  Same  with  Driftwood  and  rocks.  Plants  will  need  light  and  soil  not  gravel.  and  goldies  and  kois  will  annihlate  plants.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 small  fishes  (eg:  various  types  of  guppies,  mollies,  platy,  swordtails,  tetras,  etc.)  with  lots  of  plants  (stem  plants  prefered)  and  substrate  should  be  fairly  rich  in  nutrients.
 with  this  there  will  be  no  need  for  filtration  and  aeration.
 i  suppose  that  the  water  temp  will  not  go  below  22C  and  hence  the  need  for  a  heater  is  not  visible.
 
 drift  wood  and  rocks  will  not  be  a  problem  in  case  of  small  fish.
 go  to  borivali  national  park  and  u  will  find  many  rock  there.
 i  think  picking  rocks  in  not  illegal.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 This  pond  is  set  into  the  floor  so  fishes  like  guppies  and  tetras  wouldnt  work.  I  was  talking  about  gravel  and  rocks  from  an  aesthetics  point  of  view.
 
 Filtration  will  mostly  be  internal  power  filters  I  guess  unless  there  is  a  cabinet  or  something  nearby  to  tuck  in  an  external  filter
 
 More  details  will  follow  after  I  have  seen  the  thing.  I  was  just  asking  preliminary  question  based  on  what  I  know
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 1)  Most  of  the  normally  good  looking  fish  wont  look  good  when  viewed  from  top.  So  i  am  afraid  it  will  have  to  be  gold  fish.  Check  Debarghyas  (severumkid)  thread  about  fish  suited  for  a  pond.
 2)  If  the  pond  is  on  the  ground  floor  and  the  flooring  work  of  the  house  is  not  yet  done,  you  could  take  an  outlet  from  the  pond  outside  the  house  and  put  a  filter  there?   
       Another  option  would  be  to  build  a  rim  to  the  pond,  around  4-5  inches  broad  and  high,  fill  it  with  some  porous  media  and  allow  plants  to  grow  in  there?  Just  thinking  out  loud  on  this  point.
 3)  Dont  think  you  will  need  a  heater  if  you  keep  goldfish
 4)Gravel,  i  would  pass  especially  if  this  tank  were  at  floor  level,  which  means  you  cant  'siphon'  out  dirt.  You  will  have  to  pump  out  water  each  time  to  clean  gravel  off  fish  poop.
 5)How  about  some  amazons  in  trays?  They  will  grow  out  of  the  water  and  will  look  really  good!
 6)The  rocks,  you  will  get  from  a  landscaping  materials  supplier.  You  might  want  to  enquire  at  a  place  where  there  a  decent  number  of  marble  shops.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  suggestions.  Unfortunately  it  isnt  on  the  ground  floor  so  I  cant  take  the  pipes  outside.  Ill  look  into  adding  a  lip  as  it  would  also  add  to  the  depth  and  water  volume  but  I  suspect  that  this  is  doubtful.
 
 Plants  in  baskets  is  a  good  option.  What  about  floating  plants  like  pistia  or  something,  will  the  goldies  eat  those  as  well  ?  How  about  lillies  in  pots  or  something  ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 I  havent  kept  goldfish,  so  cant  comment  on  them.  
 The  lip  to  the  pond  will  be  like  a  huge  trickling  filter  around  the  pond.  But  you  will  need  a  strong  enough  powerhead  to  ensure  flow  through  it.  Ill  try  to  post  a  pic  of  a  friends  tank,  where  he  has  this  chamber  inside  his  hood,  just  like  a  big  top  filter,  with  filter  media  in  it.  Serves  the  purpose  really  well!
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I  think  you  should  refer  to  kaya’s  thread  here.  He’s  the  man  I  would  go  to  for  anything  related  to  ponds.  in  fact  he  deserves  a  medal  for  his  epic  pond  thread.  if  i  was  Jayalalitha,  i  would  have  made  him  the  Mayor  of  Madurai.
 
 Anyway  I  have  a  little  bit  of  experience  with  an  outdoor  pond.  So  here’s  my  take.  Filtration.  I  don’t  think  these  people  have  taken  filtration  into  account  while  planning  the  pond.  You  would  need  to  be  a  hobbyist  to  do  that  i  guess.  Goldfish  are  messy  so  you’ll  need  good  filtration  which  is  probably  what  you  mean  by  plumbing.  Gravel  is  out  of  the  question  (esp  with  gildies  and  koi).  Why  would  you  want  to  add  gravel  in  a  pond???  It’s  just  going  to  trap  muck  and  it  wont  be  visible  after  a  while.  Same  with  Driftwood  and  rocks.  Plants  will  need  light  and  soil  not  gravel.  and  goldies  and  kois  will  annihlate  plants.                

 
 Ha  ha  ha  ha  thank  you  sid.
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 mortis..  could  you  please  post  some  pics  of  the  pond  and  the  area?  would  be  easier  to  suggest..  cheers
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 guppies  or  sword  tails  are  a  must  to  avoid  mosquitos,kois  are  best  for  these  ponds  ,  lillies  accompanied  with  them  will  do  best  ,  
 
 lillies  dont  require  full  sunlight  to  flower,  let  me  know  if  u  need  any  got  some  varieties
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 Going  to  see  it  on  the  weekend.  Will  take  some  pics  and  post  them
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Indoor pond setup help Reply with quote

 Hi  Mortis,
 
 Go  ahead  man....
 
 I  have  a  pond  in  ground  floor.....7'(l)x4'(b)x2.5'(H).....tiles  flooring....
 
 I  have  few  diftwood  with  anubias  and  lot  of  other  plant  but  in  clay  pots........so  it's  easier  to  me  to  sifon  the  all  the  dirts....
 
 I  have  Rainbows,  Swordtails,  Black  liertail,  Danios  etc  etc...also  few  apple  snail....couple  of  Pleco  ...
 
 No  filtration  .....just  sifon  the  half  or  2/3  water  once  in  a  month....
 
 Fishes  are  healthy  and  the  are  doing  breeding  also....Last  breed  Madagascar  Rainbows  &  Zebra  danio...
 
 In  fact  till  today  whatever  fish  I  kept  in  my  pond  all  of  them  breed  except  denisonii......
 
 Light  is  there  upto  12-12.30  AM  .....only  sunlight....
 
 Till  today  no  issue....
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 abhis..  hope  you  are  well..  post  some  pics  please..
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 A  school  of  the  surface  dwelling  "wrestling  halfbeak"  will  look  good  from  top  view  and  take  care  of  the  mosquitoes  as  well.  They'll  give  a  silver  shimmer  to  the  surface.  Albino  zebra  danios  will  do  good  too.  But  koi  and  large  goldfish  will  eventually  eat  them.
 
 Goldfish  can  be  kept  with  amazon  grass  and  vallisneria.
 
 
 


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 Hi  Kaya,
 
 Thanks...I  am  fine....
 
 Some  snaps...not  good...but  just  to  feel....
 
 http://s877.photobucket.com/albums/ab333/abhis9/Abhis%20Ponds%20Pics/
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