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 Sounds  very  interesting.
 Just  a  thought  though-  would  it  be  a  good  idea  to  have  `usual  substrate'  and  then  spread  the  mat  on  top  with  some  perfoerations  in  it?  This  will  allow  the  plants  to  draw  any  `natural'  notrients  from  the  substrate.
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 Why  have  both?
 
 If  the  usual  laterite  +  gravel  substrate  is  already  in  place,  what  is  the  use  of  the  mat  over  that?
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sridharp77  wrote:                
I  have  seen  these  type  of  coir  mats  available  easily  and  cheaply  in  Kerala.  But  the  only  thing  is  that  they  donot  have  the  mesh  kind  of  thing  on  their  top.  
 
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 Coir  footmats  have  all  the  coir  standing  straight  up  and  teh  coir  is  not  rubberised.
 
 Non-rubberised  coir  will  soften  and  degrade  over  time.  Try  immersing  a  handful  of  coir  in  a  mug  for  a  few  days  and  see.
 
 In  this  mat  the  coir  is  prearranged  to  a  certain  density  and  thickness  and  then  the  rubberising  compound  has  been  sprayed  on  to  it.  The  coir  is  loosely  and  randomly  packed  for  the  plant  roots  to  penetrate  easily  and  hold  on.
 
 In  the  rubberised  coir  mats  I  have  seen  in  shops  here  while  researching  this  a  long  time  ago,  the  coir  is  too  tightly  packed  and  will  not  allow  the  roots  to  penetrate.
 
 Keep  this  in  mind  when  looking  for  an  alternative  in  the  market.
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 Suggesting  both  for  transoprting  the  Glossos  and  other  plants  that  we  plan  to  plant  for  creating  the  lawn  effect.  While  when  it  stays  home  it  draws  its  natural  nutrients.
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 Madan,
 
     The  one  you  are  using  are  they  rubberised.  Here  is  the  link  of  the  companies  that  i  got  while  searching  in  Google.  
 
 http://coirboard.nic.in/coir-products-directory/rubberised.htm
 
     If  i  am  not  mistaken  these  are  the  same  that  are  being  used  in  the  manufacturing  of  the  foam  bed.  In  this  one  side  of  the  bed  are  packed  with  rubberised  coir.  If  that  is  the  one  that  you  are  using  then  it  is  available  in  plenty  in  Kerala  and  is  cheap  too.  
 
 Another  link...
 
 http://www.globaludyog.com/ugtcoir/
 
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 Shridhar  the  mat  I  am  using  is  rubberised  coir.
 
 I  have  seen  those  used  for  making  mattresses,  the  coir  is  very  densely  packed  and  there  is  no  space  for  the  roots  to  penetrate.
 
 In  the  mat  I  have  it  looks  as  if  the  coir  is  loosely  sprinkled  to  make  the  mat.
 
 These  mats  must  be  made  in  India,  there  are  a  lot  of  terrestrial  ornamental  plants  being  cultivated  by  tissue  culture  and  exported,  these  mats  will  make  an  excellent  growing  medium  in  these  places.
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 The  coir  pitch  in  above  link  seems  to  be  the  material,
 http://www.globaludyog.com/ugtcoir/
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 A  google  for  the  words  -rubberised  coir  mats  used  as  plant  growth  media-  gave  me  this  -
 
 PDF]  STRATEGIC  ALLIANCE  FOR  THE  DEVELOPMENT  OF  COIR  INDUSTRY  IN  THE  ...File  Format:  PDF/Adobe  Acrobat  -  View  as  HTML
 the  form  of  mats,  mattings,  rugs,  carpets,  needle  felt,  rubberised  coir,  ...  being  used  in  nurseries  as  a  plant  grow  out  medium  especially  in  hydroponics.  ...
 coirboard.nic.in/downloads/article1.pdf  -  Similar  pages  
 
 As  usual  with  any  Government  website,  the  page  cannot  be  found.  Thumb Down
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 Hi,
 
 I  had  picked  up  a  large  cuboidal  coir    -  plant  substrate  at  the  Lalbagh  flower  show  a  couple  of  years  ago.  That  was  to  be  used  instead  of  mud  in  flower  pots,  but  I  wanted  to  use  it  in  a  planted  tank.  I  guess  that  was  around  the  time  of  my  tubifex  culture  going  wrong  at  home    ROFL  and  I  had  to  lie  low.
 
 I  should  try  this  out  sometime  soon.    Very Happy  
 
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 Hi
 
 Madanji
 
 The  Coir  mats,  looks  kinda  used  as  Filters  in  Room  Air  conditioners,  can  it  be  used,  it  is  a  compressed  coir  Fibre
 sheet  of  1/2  inch  thickness.
 
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 You'll  have  to  check  if  the  coir  you  have  allows  you  to  tie  plants  to  it.
 
 Also  you'll  have  to  find  out  if  the  rubberised  coating  is  good  for  immersion  under  water.
 
 The  mat  I  use  can  be  kept  submerged  for  5  years  +,  without  the  coating  or  the  coir  getting  degraded.
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 One  thing  that  came  in  my  mind  -  are  you  going  to  try  Glutaraldehyde  in  this  tank  Madan?
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 This  tank  is  27  x  18  x  18  and  already  has  CO2  piped  in.
 
 I  have  some  more  mat  left  over  for  a  2  small  tanks  9  x  9  footprint.  I'll  be  using  Glutraldehyde  there.
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 Wow  !  What  lighting  are  you  using  for  that  tank  ?  THe  green  looks  splendid  ...Or  is  it  just  the  camera  ?
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 Phillips  Trulites  6500  K,  4  x  20  watt.
 
 It's  the  black  background  that  is  accentuating  the  colors.
 I  always  wanted  to  try  a  black  background  for  a  planted  tank,  after  experimenting  with  no  background,  light  colored  background  etc.,
 
 This  time  around  I  got  Black  OYAMA  paper  from  Singapore.  Real  easy  stuff  to  use,  clean  the  glass,  spray  water  and  stick  it  on,  squeeze  out  the  water,  no  silicone  nothing,  the  paper  has  a  waterproof  glue  already  stuck  on,  just  like  you  stick  on  the  shaded  paper  to  you  car  glass.
 
 Oyama  paper  is  available  in  white,  dark  blue,  sea  blue  and  black  over  a  variety  of  width.  I  like  the  stuff.
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