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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 Here  are  some  pics  of  my  new  3  footer  .  Please  feel  free  to  comment  .  I  ripped  out  all  delicate  plants  off  my  old  setup  and  only  left  the  low  maintenance  type  .  The  idea  was  to  keep  it  simple  and  stress  free  .  BTW  I  have  personally  collected  and  treated  the  driftwoods  that  u  see.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 Right  now  I  feel  the  amazon  swords  are  not  well  developed,  whats  the  lighting  you  are  using  and  wattage.
 the  substrate  quantity  is  very  low,  you  need  3  inches  of  substrate  minimum,  especially  for  the  amazons  and  vallisneria..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Right  now  I  feel  the  amazon  swords  are  not  well  developed,  whats  the  lighting  you  are  using  and  wattage.
 the  substrate  quantity  is  very  low,  you  need  3  inches  of  substrate  minimum,  especially  for  the  amazons  and  vallisneria..                

 
 Point  noted  will  increase  the  substrate  near  the  base  of  amazons  and  valls  .  Very  sharp  observation  I  should  say  as  I  was  also  feeling  the  same.  Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 Amazons  do  well  in  fertile  substrate  so  just  adding  inert  gravel  won't  do,  and  hope  you  have  at  least  2watts/gallon  lighting..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Amazons  do  well  in  fertile  substrate  so  just  adding  inert  gravel  won't  do,  and  hope  you  have  at  least  2watts/gallon  lighting..                

 
 Well  there  is  a  bottom  layer  of  sera  floredepot.  Does  dosing  of  water  column  help  Amazons?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 yes  it  does,  but  they  feed  more  from  the  roots  than  water  column..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 I  have  amazon  swords  growing  well  in  low  tech  tanks  because  my  substrate  is  6  cms  also  I  use  root  tablets.
 I  used  a  substrate  that  promotes  plant  growth  and  allows  the  roots  to  penetrate  easily  and  develop  stron  root  structures.
 Dosing  fertilizers  alone  is  not  enought  because  as  the  Nidhi  pointed  to  the  fact  that  Amazon  sword  plants  are  root  feeders.
 Sera  floredepot  has  root  tablets  (white  in  color)  but  they  do  not  affect  some  time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:13 am Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  have  amazon  swords  growing  well  in  low  tech  tanks  because  my  substrate  is  6  cms  also  I  use  root  tablets.
 I  used  a  substrate  that  promotes  plant  growth  and  allows  the  roots  to  penetrate  easily  and  develop  stron  root  structures.
 Dosing  fertilizers  alone  is  not  enought  because  as  the  Nidhi  pointed  to  the  fact  that  Amazon  sword  plants  are  root  feeders.
 Sera  floredepot  has  root  tablets  (white  in  color)  but  they  do  not  affect  some  time.                

 May  I  know  what  are  the  root  tabs  that  u  use?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 Amazon  swords  grows  very  big  in  only  sufficient  lighting.  
 
 Add  some  more  variety  of  plants  in  the  aquarium.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Amazon  swords  grows  very  big  in  only  sufficient  lighting.  
 
 Add  some  more  variety  of  plants  in  the  aquarium.                

 
 Ok  but  wanted  to  keep  only  very  low  maintenance  plants  like  Amazon  ,  vall  ,  java  fern,  crypts  etc  .  Can  u  please  suggest  some  more  plants.  BTW  no  comments  on  my  DIY  drift  woods  are  they  not  good  Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

 May  be  you  can  cover  the  entire  back  with  vallis.  I  can  also  see  a  bunch  of  stem  plant  at  the  back  (center),  you  can  separate  it  and  then  plant  it  individually  to  one  corner.  Since  you  are  using  a  spray  bar  I  guess  using  the  Bell  Type  Co2  Disposable  Can  is  no  use  as  whatever  little  Co2  is  dissolved  the  continuous  aeration  from  spraybar  will  release  the  co2  from  the  water  fast.
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May  be  you  can  cover  the  entire  back  with  vallis.  I  can  also  see  a  bunch  of  stem  plant  at  the  back  (center),  you  can  separate  it  and  then  plant  it  individually  to  one  corner.  Since  you  are  using  a  spray  bar  I  guess  using  the  Bell  Type  Co2  Disposable  Can  is  no  use  as  whatever  little  Co2  is  dissolved  the  continuous  aeration  from  spraybar  will  release  the  co2  from  the  water  fast.                

 
 Well  u  r  right  I  plan  to  switch  it  off  during  day  when  phot  synthesis  takes  place  and  switch  it  on  during  night  for  areation  .  What  do  u  say.  I  don  have  an  airston  but  2  HOBs  are  running  24*7  wihtout  much  surface  agitation.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: New 3ft no CO2 Low tech Planted setup. Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Well  u  r  right  I  plan  to  switch  it  off  during  day  when  phot  synthesis  takes  place  and  switch  it  on  during  night  for  aeration  .  What  do  u  say.  I  don  have  an  airston  but  2  HOBs  are  running  24*7  wihtout  much  surface  agitation.                

 
 The  scenario  of  agitating  the  tank  at  night  only  comes  into  call  when  we  dose  a  high  amount  of  CO2  with  high  light.  Well  in  your  case  the  diffusion  is  very  slow  and  very  less  so  I  think  you  can  skip  the  process  of  switching  off  &  on  the  powerhead  and  let  it  run  24/7.  Also  you  have  2  HOBs  running  which  I  think  is  more  than  sufficient  for  the  bio-load  you  have.
 
 What  I  would  suggest  you  is  take  the  powerhead  out  and  run  only  the  2  HOBs  along  with  the  Bell  Co2.  ┬áIn  this  way  you  can  save  a  bit  of  energy  also  Smile
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Amazon  swords  grows  very  big  in  only  sufficient  lighting.  
 
 Add  some  more  variety  of  plants  in  the  aquarium.                

 
 Ok  but  wanted  to  keep  only  very  low  maintenance  plants  like  Amazon  ,  vall  ,  java  fern,  crypts  etc  .  Can  u  please  suggest  some  more  plants.  BTW  no  comments  on  my  DIY  drift  woods  are  they  not  good  Sad                

 
 Crypts  is  a  good  choice  for  a  low  maintenance  tank.  
 
 Foreground  plants:  Marselia  hirsuta,  saggitaria  subulata,  Anubias  petite,  Crypt  parva.  mosses,  Subwassertang,  pelia
 
 Midground:  Java  fern,  bolbitis  sp.
 Background  plants:  Amazon  ,  valls  etc.
 
 If  you  ever  come  to  Delhi,  pick  up  plants  from  me.
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Amazon  swords  grows  very  big  in  only  sufficient  lighting.  
 
 Add  some  more  variety  of  plants  in  the  aquarium.                

 
 Ok  but  wanted  to  keep  only  very  low  maintenance  plants  like  Amazon  ,  vall  ,  java  fern,  crypts  etc  .  Can  u  please  suggest  some  more  plants.  BTW  no  comments  on  my  DIY  drift  woods  are  they  not  good  Sad                

 
 Crypts  is  a  good  choice  for  a  low  maintenance  tank.  
 
 Foreground  plants:  Marselia  hirsuta,  saggitaria  subulata,  Anubias  petite,  Crypt  parva.  mosses,  Subwassertang,  pelia
 
 Midground:  Java  fern,  bolbitis  sp.
 Background  plants:  Amazon  ,  valls  etc.
 
 If  you  ever  come  to  Delhi,  pick  up  plants  from  me.                

 
 Thanx  how  do  i  contact  u?
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