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superbsite
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 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: Tub Pond - Questions |
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I was planning to attempt a tub pond and leaving it on the terrace and I plan to do weekly water changes of 30%
I got some black river sand as they were doing tiling work in our building compound
Please advice me if I can do the following ?
1) Set this up with some aquatic plants like Duck Weed, Dwarf and tall Saggitaria, Egeria Densa, Cobamba and some Java Moss, Aquarose
2) Post 2 weeks after keeping it in the sun add some fish Guppies and Mollies and Red Cherry Shrimps
3) Is the black river sand to be rinsed ?
4) Can I add rocks and ready treated driftwood to serve as some cover for the fish and shrimps ?
5) Is there any way to avoid the water becoming too green if its kept in the sun ? Should I cover it and leave it only open only just a little bit ? Algae will no doubt set in so the fish and shrimps will benifit but how can one keep the water clear ? Will any kind of plant help ?
6) How many hours of sun is enough ? So accordingly I can place it in a place where shade sets in and it gets only some sunlight during the day
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vinwil
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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Hi IAHIAN's.
Can somebody throw some light on this topic.. |
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Sujo
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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My thoughts...
Wash the sand and dry it before use.
Rocks and treated driftwood are good additions.
Try keeping the tub in a shade and avoid direct sun light.
If you see the algae is controlled, you can slowly expose to direct sun light.
Try to use some floating plants (duck weed) to reduce the light and algae.
Use high light plants...
Java moss will not perform in high light.
Direct sun light will create too much of algae and fishes may find it difficult if it is too much of algae.
Timing of sun light...
I wonder how you are going to control the sun light.
According to me 6 to 10 hours of indirect sunlight is fine.
We will wait for the comments from experts. |
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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| pm bharani. He got 3-4 beautiful tub ponds at home. |
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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I have some experience with this. Here are my thoughts:
1) In the terrace means abundant sunlight, even if you keep it in shades. So algae will def. be an issue. But if you're looking at creating a natural setup, then this is fine.
2) Do not attempt any of the floating weeds, such as duckweed etc. They spread too fast (given the light) and your tank will be fully covered with them blocking light and air mixing at the water surface. Pruning them will be a big task. If you want to really grow them, try growing them in a hollow cylindrical tube fitted vertically in the pond. But anyway, its a personal choice. If you want cover & shading, I'd recommend dwarf lilies than duckweed.
3) Owing to similar reasons, avoid plants such as fox tails.
4) Try growing lots of foreground plants/ riccia which grow beautifully well with the given light.
5) Try to keep it more natural. All this cleaning up of substrate, driftwood etc. makes it more clinical and spoils the whole thing from being natural. Guppies & mollies will do very well in such a setup, so don't really bother.
6) You can also keep small natives, but beware of them jumping.
7) And take care of the temperature. Hope the water wouldn't heat up too much (and hope the water doesn't start overflowing in rains). |
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Deepak267
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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Using a filter 24x7 will keep your pond clean. select your filter media(filter size) according to your pond size.
keep in mind, crows or other birds may visit your pond and can be a potential danger to your fish. if required cover it with net.
you may post your initial pond setup to get better advice from this forum.
May not be relevant to you, but here is a link for Introduction to Pond Fish Care.
Good Luck
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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| How big is this TUB? A your plans depend upon the size..... the larger the better. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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Thanks Everyone for responding. I'm reading the thread after a long time, so apologies for this late reply.
Tubs were expensively quoted in Crawford Market. Don't remember the rate but since there was only one shop selling large sized ones of 3 feet. I didnt like what he quoted.
Any one knows where to get 3-4 feet length tubs ?
While the whole scenario changed after collection trips as you would have seen from my posts I've had 4 buckets now in my window grill which get sunlight from 1pm to sunset as it on the west side of my house.
While over a period of time the plants collected from Malshej Ghat have been in the buckets I've added Female Endlers (From Ryel) who threw some Frys, Molly Frys from my nano tank (Mollies came from Vipin), Guppy Fry (From Subodh) and one bucket has a Panchax fry and one Koi Feeder Fish. In all the buckets there are wild shrimps. I feed the frys micro worms in the morning. Sometimes at night.
Recently from my nanos tanks, cuttings of Water Wisteria and Hygrophila Polysperma which I added in those buckets have suddenly started to rot.
Since rain has been falling in those buckets, Ive not done any water changes for 5 weeks with the exception of one bucket which had a lot of Najas Indica which had started to rot and algae beginning to form.
With some help from Omkar I've added Frogbit, Fistula and 2 Male Endlers in my buckets hoping that the floating plants will suck out nutrients and add some cover to reduce sunlight.
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Would doing 30% water change benefit and stop my rotting of Wisteria / Hygrophila Polysperma ?
I want to root the plants in substrate so will get river sand from Nitish Patel @ Affable Aquariums. Is there any benefit in adding plastic pots with sand and rooting the plants in these plastic pots ? |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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Hi Pio
Hope you haven't started with your pond.
Here is a fairly simple and cheap method to make a pond garden out of waste rubber tyre:
1. Cut off the rim of one side of the tyre
2. Add something at the base hollow for cushioning (like papers)
3. Line it with a thick plastic sheet/pond liner
4. Trim the excess portions and seal with adhesive to the tyre edge
5. Fill with water and check for any leaks
6. If everything is fine, go ahead with planting!
You can also paint it white from outside to avoid heating.
And yes plastic pots will help to retain plant better.
Cheers!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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| Alternatively, you can go to a kabadiwalla and buy a broken sintex tank. Cut off the top and Wallah! |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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Thanks Everyone for responding. I'm reading the thread after a long time, so apologies for this late reply.
Tubs were expensively quoted in Crawford Market. Don't remember the rate but since there was only one shop selling large sized ones of 3 feet. I didnt like what he quoted.
Any one knows where to get 3-4 feet length tubs ?
While the whole scenario changed after collection trips as you would have seen from my posts I've had 4 buckets now in my window grill which get sunlight from 1pm to sunset as it on the west side of my house.
While over a period of time the plants collected from Malshej Ghat have been in the buckets I've added Female Endlers (From Ryel) who threw some Frys, Molly Frys from my nano tank (Mollies came from Vipin), Guppy Fry (From Subodh) and one bucket has a Panchax fry and one Koi Feeder Fish. In all the buckets there are wild shrimps. I feed the frys micro worms in the morning. Sometimes at night.
Recently from my nanos tanks, cuttings of Water Wisteria and Hygrophila Polysperma which I added in those buckets have suddenly started to rot.
Since rain has been falling in those buckets, Ive not done any water changes for 5 weeks with the exception of one bucket which had a lot of Najas Indica which had started to rot and algae beginning to form.
With some help from Omkar I've added Frogbit, Fistula and 2 Male Endlers in my buckets hoping that the floating plants will suck out nutrients and add some cover to reduce sunlight.
Questions
Would doing 30% water change benefit and stop my rotting of Wisteria / Hygrophila Polysperma ?
I want to root the plants in substrate so will get river sand from Nitish Patel @ Affable Aquariums. Is there any benefit in adding plastic pots with sand and rooting the plants in these plastic pots ?
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Its Pistia btw, lol! |
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superbsite
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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Its Pistia btw, lol!
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Thanks I needed that was wondering why I was getting all the diseases possible on google (Fistula !!!) hahaha
Omkar youre reading this ? 
Great DIY Ideas and sugestions  |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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| Its a good Idea, but how much time do you have to enjoy it? I told you earlier during the trip, remember.... this hobby is addictive and we become greedy and get carried away, just to make up things, but we have very little time to enjoy its existance. |
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crazyomzi
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Tub Pond - Questions |
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@pio
am thinking of some alternative for you.
DIY suggested by neelmohur would be similar to a bucket i guess.
one alternative is that u can search for a baby bath tub. but that would also be expensive.
they come in various sizes from 2' X 1' to 4' X 2'. another problem with these tubs is that they are not deep enough, hardly 10".
if u can get a thick plastic sheet then u can just tie it to your grill at the required height from all 4 sides and fill it with water. but then the question is, will this sheet be able to take the weight of water.
@piercy
i have frogbits, can give u anytime. have also give some to pio. |
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