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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 I  have  sought  live  food  that  can  be  raised  at  home,  without  odours  or  any  other  nuisance  to  family  (!),  since  last  year.  I  read  about  white  worms  and  grindal  worms  [Enchytrae  albidus  and  enchytraus  bucholzi]  when  i  was  still  in  school.  It  was  in  a  wonderful  book  entitled  Tropical  Aquariums  by  Anthony  Evans,  printed  1935  or  so,  and  still  available  on  Amazon.com  .  These  worms  are  related  to  ordinary  earth  worms  but  are  small  and  milky  white  in  color.  That  is  because  they  are  traslucent.  However,  only  after  i  got  on  the  internet  did  i  find  out  where  i  could  find  them  [since  they  are  not  available  on  order  like  in  the  US  or  EU].  I  realised  i  could  actually  find  them  if  i  tried  hard  enough.  They  resemble  grains  of  boiled  rice  in  color  and  can  be  fed  something  as  easily  available  at  home  as  bread  and  milk!  
 
 We  all  know  here  at  IAH  about  how  useful  they  can  be  for  owners  of  finicky  fish  like  native  species  that  have  not  adapted  to  processed  foods  and  go  on  a  fast  if  not  fed  live  natural  food.  Dear  McGokul's  thread  is  also  a  wonderful  lead  on  white  worms  on  IAH.  Sadly,  few  people  in  North  India  realise  the  urgency  of  going  natural  and  eliminating  carbon  footprints,  among  the  several  reasons  to  favour  live  food  for  fish.
 
 i  have  been  on  a  merry  wild  goose  chase  for  live  food  for  my  two  tankfuls  of  fish  since  last  year  now.  My  first  success  was  with  Eosinia  foetida.  They  are  compost  worms  used  in  vermiculture  that  are  to  all  intents  and  purposes  earthworms.  i  feed  them  to  my  larger  fish  like  ryukin,  pearlscale,  leucistic  common,  and  veiltail  oranda  goldfish.  White  worms  are  my  second  success.  Since  they  are  around  an  inch  at  most  and  a  few  millimeters  at  less  ,  they  can  be  fed  to  the  smallest  guppy  or  danio  or  nandid.  For  more  information  on  them  i  suggest  all  live  food  enthusiasts  google  white  worms  and  grindal  worms  [Enchytrae  albidus  and  enchytraus  bucholzi]  ASAP.
 
 i  have  only  a  few  worms  as  of  now  since  i  found  them  only  a  fortnight  ago  after  a  lot  of  looking  around.  i  hope  to  be  able  to  have  enough  to  start  feeding  them  to  my  juvenile  and  adult  tropicals  in  a  month's  time!  
 
 IAH  seems  to  have  very  strict  and  difficult-to-match  parameters  for  uploading  [for  a  novice  like  me,  at  least],  so  i  have  put  a  few  pics  for  those  who  are  interested  in  this  easy-to-raise  all-year-round  live  food  on  www.flikr.com
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 wow!  that's  xactly  how  my  worms  appear
 I  found  them  breeding  in  store  bought  vermicompost
 what  do  you  suggest  as  culturing  media  for  low  density  of  worms
 green  scrub  pads  or  the  vermicompost  media???
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 thats  very  nice  romi....even  am  searching  for  white  worms  here  in  mumbai....though  i  got  grindals  from  deepakg  i  also  want  whites  so  that  i  can  culture  them  at  my  place  and  avoid  the  risk  of  infections  and  other  diseases  which  are  caused  by  worms  which  i  get  frm  LFS.
 if  its  possible  for  u  please  send  me  a  small  amount  of  the  culture  after  u  have  enough  qty  with  you.  will  pay  u  the  required  cost  of  transportation
 thanks  in  advance
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

                                                   
Arjunrocks  wrote  (View  Post):                
wow!  that's  xactly  how  my  worms  appear
 I  found  them  breeding  in  store  bought  vermicompost
 what  do  you  suggest  as  culturing  media  for  low  density  of  worms
 green  scrub  pads  or  the  vermicompost  media???                

 
 hi  arjun,  
 
 i  would  suggest  a  bit  of  both  in  a  small  plastic  shaving  box  like  you  see  in  the  pic.  if  the  box  is  bigger  it  would  be  better.  ..
 
 watch  out   for  high  summer  temperatures,  these  worms  are  probably  white  worms.  this  species  is  intolerant  of  heat.  feed  them  ground  up  oatmeal  (Bagarry's  rolled  oats  is  one  good  product  but  there  are  others  as  well  like  Quaker  oats  or  desi  'jau  ka  atta').  i  used  to  feed  them  ordinary  atta  also  but  that  is  not  as  nutritious.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:18 am Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

                                                   
crazyomzi  wrote  (View  Post):                
thats  very  nice  romi....even  am  searching  for  white  worms  here  in  mumbai....though  i  got  grindals  from  deepakg  i  also  want  whites  so  that  i  can  culture  them  at  my  place  and  avoid  the  risk  of  infections  and  other  diseases  which  are  caused  by  worms  which  i  get  frm  LFS.
 if  its  possible  for  u  please  send  me  a  small  amount  of  the  culture  after  u  have  enough  qty  with  you.  will  pay  u  the  required  cost  of  transportation
 thanks  in  advance
 
 omkar                

 
 hi  omkar,  
 
 i  no  longer  maintain  these  white  worms  as  they  are  the  same  as  grindals  in  terms  of  nutritional  value,  but  not  as  hardy  as  grindals  in  summers...  but  i  am  glad  to  see  this  old  thread  reviving  because  these  white  worms  can  be  found  by  anyone  who  keeps/buys  vermicompost,  with  a  little  hard  work.  once  u  find  them,  keep  them  in  the  lower  shelf  of  your  refrigerator  (without  tellng  your  mom/wife  what  they  are   ROFL  ,  just  say  it  is  a  kind  of  fish  food  that  can  spoil  so  it  needs  refrigeration,  keep  the  box  closed  with  a  few  holes  allowing  air  circulation  from  top)  The  presence  of  white  worms  in  vermicompost  is  a  boon  for  aqaurists  like  us  because  that  is  all  you  need  to  buy  to  find  them.  but  make  sure  u  buy  the  vermicompost  when  it  is  still  a  bit  damp.  Not  when  it  is  dried  to  a  crisp.  ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:37 am Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

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 hi  arjun,  
 
 i  would  suggest  a  bit  of  both  in  a  small  plastic  shaving  box  like  you  see  in  the  pic.  if  the  box  is  bigger  it  would  be  better.  ..
 
 watch  out  ¬†for  high  summer  temperatures,  these  worms  are  probably  white  worms.  this  species  is  intolerant  of  heat.  feed  them  ground  up  oatmeal  (Bagarry's  rolled  oats  is  one  good  product  but  there  are  others  as  well  like  Quaker  oats  or  desi  'jau  ka  atta').  i  used  to  feed  them  ordinary  atta  also  but  that  is  not  as  nutritious.                

 
 thats  pretty  cool!
 The  current  box  I  put  them  in  is  a  cubic  box  4'x4'x4'
 Because  the  worm  density  is  quite  low
 I  didn't  know  that  they  need  to  be  refrigerated!
 And  it  would  be  a  good  idea  since  fungal  action  will  be  greatly  reduced  in  a  fridge
 Once  I  see  a  good  visible  density,  I  will  soon  put  them  in  a  larger  box  as  yours
 I  am  returning  to  my  hostel  on  15th  July  where  I  have  a  ducting  system  and  fan(when  duct  is  not  working)
 I  hope  my  culture  survives  there
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 without  tellng  your  mom/wife  what  they  are   ROFL   ROFL   ROFL   ROFL  
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 That's  gonna  be  hard
 My  mom's  gonna  trash  it  the  moment  she  opens  the  box
 I'll  have  to  tell  her  and  make  her  sure  that  it  doesn't  spoil  the  other  food
 We  have  separate  boxes  and  drawers  in  our  refrigerator  that  are  isolated  from  each  other  so  we  can  arrange  for  some  space
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:14 am Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 In  that  case  how  you  will  handle  in  Delhi  Heat?
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 Well....my  cultures  are  running  on  sheer  luck
 If  the  worms  were  breeding  profusely  in  the  store  brought  vermicompost,  then  I  hope  they  survive  the  room  temps  for  some  time  which  is  way  lower  than  the  warm  vermicompost
 Also,  there  is  constant  evaporation  which  keeps  it  a  bit  cooler  than  room  temp
 Let's  see  how  long  I  can  go  on  with  them
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: White worms [Enchytrae albidus] in DELHI Reply with quote

 Hi  Arjun,
 If  you  are  able  get  them  across  the  summers  ..  then  it  shall  be  great  ..
 
 Best  of  Luck  .  .  .
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