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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Hi all,
Have been reading up and collecting a lot of info for setting up a planted tank.
This will be my first tank EVER!
So thought of putting all of that info in one place as a reference for anyone with a similar setup.
Need inputs on some aspects.
Tank: 20" x 12" x 12"
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30313
Substrate: 6L ADA AS Amazonia New
Need advice on how to go about using ADA.
Do I need to use anything else with ADA to tone it down considering the small tank size?
Lights: 36W PLL 6500K
Am using a concealed ceiling fixture with a built in reflector.
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=29995
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=29960
CO2: DIY with 2 x 1Ltr bottles
Will I need Flourish Excel?
Looking at options for diffusion (Reactor connected to the filter outlet maybe)
http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/CO2/
http://www.qsl.net/w2wdx/aquaria/diyco2.html
Filter: ???
Since it is a small tank, need something that will take upp minimal space inside the tank.
My budget only allows an HOB or a DIY external filter.
Will HOB interfere with CO2?
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30419
Ferts: ???
Need suggestions on using Micro, Macro, any other ferts.
With ADA, do I need to start looking at ferts initially?
Hardscape: Sloping landscape with light coloured sand and locally collected rocks
Plants: Carpet plants
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30340
I am thinking of going with an emersed setup.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/general-planted-tank-discussion/52332-new-method-start-up-algae-free.html
Plan is to get the plants to grow in a tray while I am setting up my substrate/hardscape etc,
and have good amount of plants that I can then plant in the tank.
Please advise which of these can be made to grow with the above setup and a lot of patience 
[Update: Will be trying the ones in bold and will be reporting the results here]
Glossostigma
HC Cuba
Marsilea Hirsuta
Elatine Triandra
Staurogyne Porto Velho
Echinodorus Tennelus
Sagittaria Sp.
Eleocharis Parvula
Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis
Blyxa Japonica
Riccia
Micranthemum Micranthemoides
Micranthemum Umbrosum
Pellia
Planting and Maintenance: ???
Fauna:
To be added MUCH later.
Fish: Rummy Nose Tetra, Cardinal Tetra, Neon Tetra, Harlequin Rasboras
Shrimp: Red Cherry Shrimp
Will keep this post updated with your inputs.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Ok, I have got my tank and have filled it with water to test if it leaks.
The LFS guy asked me to fill it with water and add salt to it to treat the glue that is used to stick the glass. Is = this really needed?
I have got a couple of plastic trays with Glosso and HC planted. this is mainly to test if I can actually grow these plants at all or not.
If I do succeed in getting them to grow emersed, what should be m next steps?
I will be collecting some rocks to use as hardscape this weekend.
Once I have those I intend to start with the tank setup.
I'll be using ADA and need some advice setting up the substrate.
Should the entire substrate be ADA? Or do I need a layer or some other material at the bottom or top (of the ADA)?
I'll need to create slopes in the substrate and was wondering if I could use some thermocol to create raised slopes... |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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| paganwinter wrote (View Post):
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The LFS guy asked me to fill it with water and add salt to it to treat the glue that is used to stick the glass. Is = this really needed?
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Add salt to treat the glue...?
That's new.. Never heard of that..  |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Ok, check that then!
Anything else that I might have to do then? |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Vaidu,
You cant use thermocol to create slopes.. they will just pop out from below.
Use some rocks or drift woods.. instead.
After the emmersed setup growth, when you fill up the water, make sure the Co2 is high and lighting as well..
But rumor is that HC needs cool temp to start with initially to acclimatize to the submerged growth. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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When I said thermocol, I meant that I'll use it at the bottom and place the rocks on top of it. I know it'll float, and hence will make sure it stays at bottom by placing weights.
I don't have enough ADA to create steep slopes.
Is there anything else that I can use to increase the amount of substrate?
Like adding some kind of gravel at the bottom and using ADA on the top where the plants will actually grow? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Ok, Got the point on Thermocol..
Take some fine meshed bathing scrubber.. fill it with any sand and tie it up, place it where you need the slope and top off with ADA.. idea is to keep ADA and the sand from mixing up. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:13 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Cool!
So can I still use thermocol along with the sand bags if needed?
So ADA can go on top? I have seen people using ADA at the bottom with river sand as top layer (Nanomania does that).
Any views on this? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:28 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Yes Vaidu,
By all means use the thermocol along with the Sand bags..
You can use the sand on top and ADA bottom or vice-versa as you wish.. but eventually they will get mixed up.
And your precious ADA cant be separated once mixed and will be waste if you want to reuse it in another tank or scape.. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Ok, then sand in bags is the way to go!
How about using the gravel used for road constructions, at the bottom to create slopes?
Asking this cos I have some with me. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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| Yes they will do fine, as long as they stay in the bags.. make sure that that are bigger in size so that they will not slip through the mesh bag. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Hi Mr. Nidhi,
Shall we stick the Thermocol With Glue...where we want to create mountain like slopes? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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OK, that kinda takes care of the substrate.
Now coming to carpet plants, what kind of plants have you all grown successfully with similar setups as mine?
I got a bunch of Glosso and though it had yellowed a lot, its begun to pick up in an emersed tray, while my HC bunch (which looked quite healthy) is slowly dying...
I am looking other plants that can grow well. Will try to grow small bunches of these and then decide on what to keep for the actual tank depending on how well each grows.
Any experiences with any of these?
Eleo Parvula
Marsilea Hirsuta
Elatine Triandra
E. Tennelus
Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis
Sagittaria Sp. (Dwarf)
Riccia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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Hi Mr. Nidhi,
Shall we stick the Thermocol With Glue...where we want to create mountain like slopes?
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Nope.. not needed, since rocks will be placed on top of it.. its not going any where. The slope will be created by using rocks and not the thermocol.
Thermocol is used only to cushion the bottom glass from the sharp edges of the rocks. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: Re: 10G Planted Tank Setup Guide/Advice/Reference |
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IMO.. Glosso would be the easiest plant once they stabilize..
HC Cuba is a bit difficult plant.. and other plants to avoid is Riccia, they will be a head ache after some time..
Blyxa Japonica is also a bit difficult.. all others can be grown easily.. |
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