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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:40 am Post subject: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Hi..i  just  upgraded  my  aquarium  to  about  40  gallons.  I  already  had  6  angelfish  ,  5  zebra  fishes,  1  mellon  barb.  I  transfered  them  to  the  new  one.
 they  did  fine  for  a  day,  but  when  i  introduce  4  small  scatfishes..by  next  day  my  mellon  barb  and  2  scats  dies..after  that  3rd  scat  ided  and  4th  doesnt  look  promising.
 i  would  like  to  mention  that  i  have  kept  3  clay  pots  in  the  tank..i  had  scrubbed  them  clean  and  kept  in  the  water  for  3  days  till  it  wasnt  spoiling  the  water.
 i  have  not  put  any  salt  in  the  water  as  some  people  suggest.  any  help  would  be  appreciated.!!
 Thank  you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Did  you  cycle  the  new  tank  before  adding  the  fish?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Scatophagus  argus  or  commonly  known  as  scat's  aren't  "Freshwater  fish"  they  are  actually  "Brackish  Water  Fish"  Although  juveniles  are  often  sold  in  freshwater,
 Wild  adults  live  almost  entirely  in  the  sea.
 Scats  are  highly  sensitive  to  nitrite  and  should  only  be  added  to  well  established  mature  tanks.  
 Although  wild  scats  are  mainly  herbivores  in  a  captive  environment  they  will  eat  anything  including  smaller  fish  so  tank  mates  must  be  over  3  inches.  
 The  tanks  temperature  should  be  maintained  between  20c  and  28c.
 Hope  this  helps...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 +1  Darius.
 
 You  cannot  mix  Scat  with  other  fishes  mentioned.  As  the  posters  above  mentioned  Scat  is  brackish  water  fish..  means  need  some  amount  of  salt  in  water  to  be  healthy.
 
 If  you  add  salt  to  your  tank  then  you  cannot  keep  other  fishes  you  have  mentioned.
 
 Hope  this  helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Buddy  
 
 1.  Its  always  safe  to  quarantine  the  new  fishes  before  adding  them  to  existing  healthy  fishes.  
 2.  Although  Scats  are  pretty  hardy  fishes  its   always  better  to  provide  them  with  Brackish  parameters.
 3.  All  Scats  are  wild  caught  so  pick  your  fish  carefully  from  the  LFS  follow  the  basic  guidelines  for  picking  the  fish  from  LFS  and  you  will  do  fine.
 4.  Provide  plenty  of  Aeration  and  the  scats  will  do  fine  once  acclimated  they  are  very  hardy  fish..
 
 i  had  once  grown  them  from  10ps  coin  size  to  about  4in  coin  size.
 
 all  they  best  on  your  next  lot  :)
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Quarantine  every  new  lfs  fish  first  before  introducing  them  in  your  tank.  And  like  swapnil  said  ...  They  are  brackish..  So  read  before  you  buy.  Its  no  point  buying  fancy  fish  without  knowing  them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 hey..thank  you  all  for  your  suggestions.  can  you  please  elaborate  on  brackish  water?
 and  I  did  cycle  the  tank.  I  use  a  different  method,  I  used  some  part  of  the  old  tank  water  and  i  used  the  old  sponge  filter  too  for  sometime.
 Generaly  this  has  worked  perfectly  when  i  clean  out  the  complete  tank  and  have  never  faced  this  problem.
 I  have  seen  adult  scats  living  with  tetras  and  monoangels  without  any  problems..hence  assumed  they  would  do  well  in  my  tank  too.
 What  kind  of  fishes  prefer  the  same  kind  of  water  as  Scats?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Can  you  also  advice  me  on  the  quarantine  process..?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Here  is  some  info  ...  hope  it  helps  -  
 
 http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/mix/argus.php
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Although  Scat  are  brackish  water  fish,  the  young  can  live  in  fresh  water.
 They  live  in  area  where  rivers  meet  sea,  hence  they  live  in  water  which  has  salinity  between  seawater  and  freshwater.
 However  mixing  angels  and  scat  might  not  be  a  good  idea.
 I  use  a  large  25  lit  bucket  for  quaratine  process,  if  i  don't  have  a  spare  tank.
 Fill  it  with  tank  water,  put  in  a  sponge  filter,  let  it  run  for  some  time  and  your  quaratine  tank  is  ready.
 I  keep  fish  in  such  setups  for  2-3  days,  although  a  7  day  period  is  recommended.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 Thank  you  for  your  help...
 as  most  suggest  that  scats  can  live  in  freshwater..i  will  definitely  try  to  keep  them  again  soon..
 this  time  will  use  proper  quarantine  and  brackish  water..hope  i  succeed.!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Scat fishes..dying.! help.! Reply with quote

 My  sole  surviving  scat  has  made  it  a  week  in  the  tank..also  chasing  the  angels  which  are  about  3  times  her  size.
 Is  it  safe  to  assume  that  the  scat  has  adjusted  ?
 or  do  i  need  to  separate  it  out  still?
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